Hillary won more votes for President

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  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,367
    tonifig8 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    LOL, people that are ready for this actually have places away from cities. Yep, people are going to die. This system is unsustainable.

    And no, I don't live in Chicago, I'm not a freaking idiot.

    Now I have a better understanding about your beliefs about racial purity.
    You know nothing John Snow.
    The segregation around that area breeds cultural ignorance unless the person really makes an effort to overcome it. When they don't do that, the ignorance really fuels fear.
    Let's keep the convo on important matters, right Kat
    You don't think racism is an important issue? It's been an underlying theme for awhile now, since we've heard from politicians that we need to "take our country back", and that Trump had said blatantly racist things and also draws a high level of support from white supremacists.
    I absolutely do. I'm Hispanic and a diehard progressive, so you could understand why I might care about it just a little more.
    Personally I just don't think one member's opinion on here is more important then this election.
    Trump might be supported by racist, but they aren't enough to defeat us. Also, if said member wants to preserve a race of people, that's fine with me, if said member wants to protect the law and boarders that's also fine with me.

    But I get where you're coming from and I remember the exchange that occurred. It was heated and I do find myself on your side, but we're about to elect a crook. We're about to really fuck up our society(and I don't mean the end of the world), why? Because the majority of people truly dislike these candidates and there's going to be some serious outrage once one of these crooks is elected. This is more then right vs left...our whole system has been exposed and we're disgusted with what we're witnessing. A majority of us have lost complete faith in our system and we're now pissed about it!
    Look at the shit JC is posting and tell me with an honest heart that you are proud of your candidate.
    A lot of the outrage! and crook stuff is manufactured hype. People are outraged every four years, and Hillary hasn't done anything new that politicians and elected presidents haven't done before. Hillary will get elected, and if there isn't a crisis event in the next 6 to 10 months, we'll be okay, and more people will start to see that we'll be okay. The Trump supporters will go back to their world of fear, where they've been all the years before this.
    Manufactured hype? let's just end the convo there.

    Maybe some of us are done with the whole "this is nothing new". I'm not accepting that and I'm voting for trump, which makes me sick to my very core; But the good thing is that I can still say that i've never voted for a republican.
    Yeah, I guess the majority of people will go back to their holes.
    I'm confused. If you vote for Trump, you've still never voted for a Republican? Isn't he the Republican nominee?

    Also, you complain about a duopoly which doesn't represent the progressive ideals of the people, yet possess pride about never voting for a Republican candidate. How does a party pivot towards progressive idealism if the progressive idealists are proud to be diametrically opposed to a party? This lack of empathy is not a one-way street, and I personally feel that the odds of change are better when they occur within the system (aided by third-party organizations designed to mandate proper representation), rather than without the system (i.e. a third party with no precedence of having the ability to seize power in a system that promotes them not gaining it).
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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,546
    tonifig8 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    LOL, people that are ready for this actually have places away from cities. Yep, people are going to die. This system is unsustainable.

    And no, I don't live in Chicago, I'm not a freaking idiot.

    Now I have a better understanding about your beliefs about racial purity.
    You know nothing John Snow.
    The segregation around that area breeds cultural ignorance unless the person really makes an effort to overcome it. When they don't do that, the ignorance really fuels fear.
    Let's keep the convo on important matters, right Kat
    You don't think racism is an important issue? It's been an underlying theme for awhile now, since we've heard from politicians that we need to "take our country back", and that Trump had said blatantly racist things and also draws a high level of support from white supremacists.
    I absolutely do. I'm Hispanic and a diehard progressive, so you could understand why I might care about it just a little more.
    Personally I just don't think one member's opinion on here is more important then this election.
    Trump might be supported by racist, but they aren't enough to defeat us. Also, if said member wants to preserve a race of people, that's fine with me, if said member wants to protect the law and boarders that's also fine with me.

    But I get where you're coming from and I remember the exchange that occurred. It was heated and I do find myself on your side, but we're about to elect a crook. We're about to really fuck up our society(and I don't mean the end of the world), why? Because the majority of people truly dislike these candidates and there's going to be some serious outrage once one of these crooks is elected. This is more then right vs left...our whole system has been exposed and we're disgusted with what we're witnessing. A majority of us have lost complete faith in our system and we're now pissed about it!
    Look at the shit JC is posting and tell me with an honest heart that you are proud of your candidate.
    We're about to elect a crook? And you are voting for Trump.....got it
    Yes, I am voting for Trump. Yes, he is a crook. It makes me sick that I'm doing so, but I do believe he'll be much easier to impeach. He wont have the DOJ, FBI, and Media protecting him. Most republicans don't even like him. We'll then get Mike Pence, which means that you'll continue to have all this free time to read about politics and watch youtube videos... that's not such a bad outlook for you.

    Pence is still worse than Hillary. And yes, the hype is manufactured when the same things have happened in the past and hardly anyone gave a poop.
    You're generalizing. And, yes, many of us did give a poop. As a matter of fact someone threw their shoe a GWB. We gave a poop then and we give a poop now.

    Read some of the content JC is posting. Read it with an open mind. It helps get a better understanding of the reality that exist.

    peace.
    Generalizing isn't the right word. I'm making an observation. The left hated Bush after he was in office primarily for war crimes. There was minimal outrage for his shady connections, slimy campaign tactics, or bazillions of missing emails. The complaints about Hillary are blown up and hyped when you put it in historic context. A lot of people are outraged because they're being told to be outraged.
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124

    tonifig8 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    LOL, people that are ready for this actually have places away from cities. Yep, people are going to die. This system is unsustainable.

    And no, I don't live in Chicago, I'm not a freaking idiot.

    Now I have a better understanding about your beliefs about racial purity.
    You know nothing John Snow.
    The segregation around that area breeds cultural ignorance unless the person really makes an effort to overcome it. When they don't do that, the ignorance really fuels fear.
    Let's keep the convo on important matters, right Kat
    You don't think racism is an important issue? It's been an underlying theme for awhile now, since we've heard from politicians that we need to "take our country back", and that Trump had said blatantly racist things and also draws a high level of support from white supremacists.
    I absolutely do. I'm Hispanic and a diehard progressive, so you could understand why I might care about it just a little more.
    Personally I just don't think one member's opinion on here is more important then this election.
    Trump might be supported by racist, but they aren't enough to defeat us. Also, if said member wants to preserve a race of people, that's fine with me, if said member wants to protect the law and boarders that's also fine with me.

    But I get where you're coming from and I remember the exchange that occurred. It was heated and I do find myself on your side, but we're about to elect a crook. We're about to really fuck up our society(and I don't mean the end of the world), why? Because the majority of people truly dislike these candidates and there's going to be some serious outrage once one of these crooks is elected. This is more then right vs left...our whole system has been exposed and we're disgusted with what we're witnessing. A majority of us have lost complete faith in our system and we're now pissed about it!
    Look at the shit JC is posting and tell me with an honest heart that you are proud of your candidate.
    We're about to elect a crook? And you are voting for Trump.....got it
    Yes, I am voting for Trump. Yes, he is a crook. It makes me sick that I'm doing so, but I do believe he'll be much easier to impeach. He wont have the DOJ, FBI, and Media protecting him. Most republicans don't even like him. We'll then get Mike Pence, which means that you'll continue to have all this free time to read about politics and watch youtube videos... that's not such a bad outlook for you.

    Pence is still worse than Hillary. And yes, the hype is manufactured when the same things have happened in the past and hardly anyone gave a poop.
    You're generalizing. And, yes, many of us did give a poop. As a matter of fact someone threw their shoe a GWB. We gave a poop then and we give a poop now.

    Read some of the content JC is posting. Read it with an open mind. It helps get a better understanding of the reality that exist.

    peace.
    Generalizing isn't the right word. I'm making an observation. The left hated Bush after he was in office primarily for war crimes. There was minimal outrage for his shady connections, slimy campaign tactics, or bazillions of missing emails. The complaints about Hillary are blown up and hyped when you put it in historic context. A lot of people are outraged because they're being told to be outraged.
    Not blown up and hyped. All real. Just say you're indifferent to it. Would be a much easier argument for you to make.
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,546
    BS44325 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    LOL, people that are ready for this actually have places away from cities. Yep, people are going to die. This system is unsustainable.

    And no, I don't live in Chicago, I'm not a freaking idiot.

    Now I have a better understanding about your beliefs about racial purity.
    You know nothing John Snow.
    The segregation around that area breeds cultural ignorance unless the person really makes an effort to overcome it. When they don't do that, the ignorance really fuels fear.
    Let's keep the convo on important matters, right Kat
    You don't think racism is an important issue? It's been an underlying theme for awhile now, since we've heard from politicians that we need to "take our country back", and that Trump had said blatantly racist things and also draws a high level of support from white supremacists.
    I absolutely do. I'm Hispanic and a diehard progressive, so you could understand why I might care about it just a little more.
    Personally I just don't think one member's opinion on here is more important then this election.
    Trump might be supported by racist, but they aren't enough to defeat us. Also, if said member wants to preserve a race of people, that's fine with me, if said member wants to protect the law and boarders that's also fine with me.

    But I get where you're coming from and I remember the exchange that occurred. It was heated and I do find myself on your side, but we're about to elect a crook. We're about to really fuck up our society(and I don't mean the end of the world), why? Because the majority of people truly dislike these candidates and there's going to be some serious outrage once one of these crooks is elected. This is more then right vs left...our whole system has been exposed and we're disgusted with what we're witnessing. A majority of us have lost complete faith in our system and we're now pissed about it!
    Look at the shit JC is posting and tell me with an honest heart that you are proud of your candidate.
    We're about to elect a crook? And you are voting for Trump.....got it
    Yes, I am voting for Trump. Yes, he is a crook. It makes me sick that I'm doing so, but I do believe he'll be much easier to impeach. He wont have the DOJ, FBI, and Media protecting him. Most republicans don't even like him. We'll then get Mike Pence, which means that you'll continue to have all this free time to read about politics and watch youtube videos... that's not such a bad outlook for you.

    Pence is still worse than Hillary. And yes, the hype is manufactured when the same things have happened in the past and hardly anyone gave a poop.
    You're generalizing. And, yes, many of us did give a poop. As a matter of fact someone threw their shoe a GWB. We gave a poop then and we give a poop now.

    Read some of the content JC is posting. Read it with an open mind. It helps get a better understanding of the reality that exist.

    peace.
    Generalizing isn't the right word. I'm making an observation. The left hated Bush after he was in office primarily for war crimes. There was minimal outrage for his shady connections, slimy campaign tactics, or bazillions of missing emails. The complaints about Hillary are blown up and hyped when you put it in historic context. A lot of people are outraged because they're being told to be outraged.
    Not blown up and hyped. All real. Just say you're indifferent to it. Would be a much easier argument for you to make.
    People are told it's a big deal, so they think it's a big deal. The lack of attention given to the same issues in the past said that it wasn't a big deal. The only thing real are the facts. People's responses are real, but not in a factual sense, but in the subjective sense. I'm giving my reaction to it, and it's not indifference.
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    igotid88 said:
    If you vote for Hillary you're a grown up.
    If you vote for Trump you're a sucker.
    If you don't vote for anyone you're an asshole.
    - Louis CK

    I'd say that pretty well sums it up.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,665
    tonifig8 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    LOL, people that are ready for this actually have places away from cities. Yep, people are going to die. This system is unsustainable.

    And no, I don't live in Chicago, I'm not a freaking idiot.

    Now I have a better understanding about your beliefs about racial purity.
    You know nothing John Snow.
    The segregation around that area breeds cultural ignorance unless the person really makes an effort to overcome it. When they don't do that, the ignorance really fuels fear.
    Let's keep the convo on important matters, right Kat
    You don't think racism is an important issue? It's been an underlying theme for awhile now, since we've heard from politicians that we need to "take our country back", and that Trump had said blatantly racist things and also draws a high level of support from white supremacists.
    I absolutely do. I'm Hispanic and a diehard progressive, so you could understand why I might care about it just a little more.
    Personally I just don't think one member's opinion on here is more important then this election.
    Trump might be supported by racist, but they aren't enough to defeat us. Also, if said member wants to preserve a race of people, that's fine with me, if said member wants to protect the law and boarders that's also fine with me.

    But I get where you're coming from and I remember the exchange that occurred. It was heated and I do find myself on your side, but we're about to elect a crook. We're about to really fuck up our society(and I don't mean the end of the world), why? Because the majority of people truly dislike these candidates and there's going to be some serious outrage once one of these crooks is elected. This is more then right vs left...our whole system has been exposed and we're disgusted with what we're witnessing. A majority of us have lost complete faith in our system and we're now pissed about it!
    Look at the shit JC is posting and tell me with an honest heart that you are proud of your candidate.
    A lot of the outrage! and crook stuff is manufactured hype. People are outraged every four years, and Hillary hasn't done anything new that politicians and elected presidents haven't done before. Hillary will get elected, and if there isn't a crisis event in the next 6 to 10 months, we'll be okay, and more people will start to see that we'll be okay. The Trump supporters will go back to their world of fear, where they've been all the years before this.
    Manufactured hype? let's just end the convo there.

    Maybe some of us are done with the whole "this is nothing new". I'm not accepting that and I'm voting for trump, which makes me sick to my very core; But the good thing is that I can still say that i've never voted for a republican.
    Yeah, I guess the majority of people will go back to their holes.
    But Trump is a crook.... If you don't want to vote for a crook, why are you voting for Trump again? I don't get it.
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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487

    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    LOL, people that are ready for this actually have places away from cities. Yep, people are going to die. This system is unsustainable.

    And no, I don't live in Chicago, I'm not a freaking idiot.

    Now I have a better understanding about your beliefs about racial purity.
    You know nothing John Snow.
    The segregation around that area breeds cultural ignorance unless the person really makes an effort to overcome it. When they don't do that, the ignorance really fuels fear.
    Or reality says that I can't do anything to change it because the system is designed to work that way so I just make the best that I can for myself and my family.

    And I will not apologize for that.
    Isolation and cynicism are different than your racial purity stuff.
    You can call me whatever you want as I do not care anymore what a liberal calls me, but my politicians wanted real change in that community and don't just give a pandering "hot sauce in the purse" comment.
    do you care what a conservative calls you?
    Not really.

    Conservatives hate me too. I call them out on their police love fascination and "don't touch my SS or medicare".
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    CM189191 said:

    igotid88 said:
    If you vote for Hillary you're a grown up.
    If you vote for Trump you're a sucker.
    If you don't vote for anyone you're an asshole.
    - Louis CK

    I'd say that pretty well sums it up.
    I guess I am an asshole.

    Oh, and a racist too. Can't forget to let the libs call me that because I don't agree with 98% of their policies. Gotta let them have that talking point because they can't logically argue their policies.
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    unsung said:

    CM189191 said:

    igotid88 said:
    If you vote for Hillary you're a grown up.
    If you vote for Trump you're a sucker.
    If you don't vote for anyone you're an asshole.
    - Louis CK

    I'd say that pretty well sums it up.
    I guess I am an asshole.

    Oh, and a racist too. Can't forget to let the libs call me that because I don't agree with 98% of their policies. Gotta let them have that talking point because they can't logically argue their policies.
    The majority of the population has listened to, understands, and sided with Hillary and her policies. Perhaps it's not the messenger or the message that is short on logic, but the recipient.
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    CM189191 said:

    unsung said:

    CM189191 said:

    igotid88 said:
    If you vote for Hillary you're a grown up.
    If you vote for Trump you're a sucker.
    If you don't vote for anyone you're an asshole.
    - Louis CK

    I'd say that pretty well sums it up.
    I guess I am an asshole.

    Oh, and a racist too. Can't forget to let the libs call me that because I don't agree with 98% of their policies. Gotta let them have that talking point because they can't logically argue their policies.
    The majority of the population has listened to, understands, and sided with Hillary and her policies. Perhaps it's not the messenger or the message that is short on logic, but the recipient.
    So since I am in the minority of current popluar opinion it is ok to suppress any of my Rights?
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,025
    Pretty good Wisconsin poll for HRC today.
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124

    BS44325 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    LOL, people that are ready for this actually have places away from cities. Yep, people are going to die. This system is unsustainable.

    And no, I don't live in Chicago, I'm not a freaking idiot.

    Now I have a better understanding about your beliefs about racial purity.
    You know nothing John Snow.
    The segregation around that area breeds cultural ignorance unless the person really makes an effort to overcome it. When they don't do that, the ignorance really fuels fear.
    Let's keep the convo on important matters, right Kat
    You don't think racism is an important issue? It's been an underlying theme for awhile now, since we've heard from politicians that we need to "take our country back", and that Trump had said blatantly racist things and also draws a high level of support from white supremacists.
    I absolutely do. I'm Hispanic and a diehard progressive, so you could understand why I might care about it just a little more.
    Personally I just don't think one member's opinion on here is more important then this election.
    Trump might be supported by racist, but they aren't enough to defeat us. Also, if said member wants to preserve a race of people, that's fine with me, if said member wants to protect the law and boarders that's also fine with me.

    But I get where you're coming from and I remember the exchange that occurred. It was heated and I do find myself on your side, but we're about to elect a crook. We're about to really fuck up our society(and I don't mean the end of the world), why? Because the majority of people truly dislike these candidates and there's going to be some serious outrage once one of these crooks is elected. This is more then right vs left...our whole system has been exposed and we're disgusted with what we're witnessing. A majority of us have lost complete faith in our system and we're now pissed about it!
    Look at the shit JC is posting and tell me with an honest heart that you are proud of your candidate.
    We're about to elect a crook? And you are voting for Trump.....got it
    Yes, I am voting for Trump. Yes, he is a crook. It makes me sick that I'm doing so, but I do believe he'll be much easier to impeach. He wont have the DOJ, FBI, and Media protecting him. Most republicans don't even like him. We'll then get Mike Pence, which means that you'll continue to have all this free time to read about politics and watch youtube videos... that's not such a bad outlook for you.

    Pence is still worse than Hillary. And yes, the hype is manufactured when the same things have happened in the past and hardly anyone gave a poop.
    You're generalizing. And, yes, many of us did give a poop. As a matter of fact someone threw their shoe a GWB. We gave a poop then and we give a poop now.

    Read some of the content JC is posting. Read it with an open mind. It helps get a better understanding of the reality that exist.

    peace.
    Generalizing isn't the right word. I'm making an observation. The left hated Bush after he was in office primarily for war crimes. There was minimal outrage for his shady connections, slimy campaign tactics, or bazillions of missing emails. The complaints about Hillary are blown up and hyped when you put it in historic context. A lot of people are outraged because they're being told to be outraged.
    Not blown up and hyped. All real. Just say you're indifferent to it. Would be a much easier argument for you to make.
    People are told it's a big deal, so they think it's a big deal. The lack of attention given to the same issues in the past said that it wasn't a big deal. The only thing real are the facts. People's responses are real, but not in a factual sense, but in the subjective sense. I'm giving my reaction to it, and it's not indifference.
    Oh...so I only think it's a big deal because I was told it's a big deal. A private server was set up by a secretary of state so that she could avoid transperancy laws while selling influence through her foundation and jeopardized national security in the process. That has not been done before and it is a big deal. Nobody needed to tell me that to know it and I will hold the candle...
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124

    Pretty good Wisconsin poll for HRC today.

    And a not so good Nevada poll...

    Polls are all over the map right now but advantage still Clinton
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,177
    edited November 2016
    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    LOL, people that are ready for this actually have places away from cities. Yep, people are going to die. This system is unsustainable.

    And no, I don't live in Chicago, I'm not a freaking idiot.

    Now I have a better understanding about your beliefs about racial purity.
    You know nothing John Snow.
    The segregation around that area breeds cultural ignorance unless the person really makes an effort to overcome it. When they don't do that, the ignorance really fuels fear.
    Let's keep the convo on important matters, right Kat
    You don't think racism is an important issue? It's been an underlying theme for awhile now, since we've heard from politicians that we need to "take our country back", and that Trump had said blatantly racist things and also draws a high level of support from white supremacists.
    I absolutely do. I'm Hispanic and a diehard progressive, so you could understand why I might care about it just a little more.
    Personally I just don't think one member's opinion on here is more important then this election.
    Trump might be supported by racist, but they aren't enough to defeat us. Also, if said member wants to preserve a race of people, that's fine with me, if said member wants to protect the law and boarders that's also fine with me.

    But I get where you're coming from and I remember the exchange that occurred. It was heated and I do find myself on your side, but we're about to elect a crook. We're about to really fuck up our society(and I don't mean the end of the world), why? Because the majority of people truly dislike these candidates and there's going to be some serious outrage once one of these crooks is elected. This is more then right vs left...our whole system has been exposed and we're disgusted with what we're witnessing. A majority of us have lost complete faith in our system and we're now pissed about it!
    Look at the shit JC is posting and tell me with an honest heart that you are proud of your candidate.
    We're about to elect a crook? And you are voting for Trump.....got it
    Yes, I am voting for Trump. Yes, he is a crook. It makes me sick that I'm doing so, but I do believe he'll be much easier to impeach. He wont have the DOJ, FBI, and Media protecting him. Most republicans don't even like him. We'll then get Mike Pence, which means that you'll continue to have all this free time to read about politics and watch youtube videos... that's not such a bad outlook for you.

    Pence is still worse than Hillary. And yes, the hype is manufactured when the same things have happened in the past and hardly anyone gave a poop.
    You're generalizing. And, yes, many of us did give a poop. As a matter of fact someone threw their shoe a GWB. We gave a poop then and we give a poop now.

    Read some of the content JC is posting. Read it with an open mind. It helps get a better understanding of the reality that exist.

    peace.
    Generalizing isn't the right word. I'm making an observation. The left hated Bush after he was in office primarily for war crimes. There was minimal outrage for his shady connections, slimy campaign tactics, or bazillions of missing emails. The complaints about Hillary are blown up and hyped when you put it in historic context. A lot of people are outraged because they're being told to be outraged.
    Not blown up and hyped. All real. Just say you're indifferent to it. Would be a much easier argument for you to make.
    People are told it's a big deal, so they think it's a big deal. The lack of attention given to the same issues in the past said that it wasn't a big deal. The only thing real are the facts. People's responses are real, but not in a factual sense, but in the subjective sense. I'm giving my reaction to it, and it's not indifference.
    Oh...so I only think it's a big deal because I was told it's a big deal. A private server was set up by a secretary of state so that she could avoid transperancy laws while selling influence through her foundation and jeopardized national security in the process. That has not been done before and it is a big deal. Nobody needed to tell me that to know it and I will hold the candle...
    Avoid transparency? How in the name of christ has she done that?
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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,546
    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    LOL, people that are ready for this actually have places away from cities. Yep, people are going to die. This system is unsustainable.

    And no, I don't live in Chicago, I'm not a freaking idiot.

    Now I have a better understanding about your beliefs about racial purity.
    You know nothing John Snow.
    The segregation around that area breeds cultural ignorance unless the person really makes an effort to overcome it. When they don't do that, the ignorance really fuels fear.
    Let's keep the convo on important matters, right Kat
    You don't think racism is an important issue? It's been an underlying theme for awhile now, since we've heard from politicians that we need to "take our country back", and that Trump had said blatantly racist things and also draws a high level of support from white supremacists.
    I absolutely do. I'm Hispanic and a diehard progressive, so you could understand why I might care about it just a little more.
    Personally I just don't think one member's opinion on here is more important then this election.
    Trump might be supported by racist, but they aren't enough to defeat us. Also, if said member wants to preserve a race of people, that's fine with me, if said member wants to protect the law and boarders that's also fine with me.

    But I get where you're coming from and I remember the exchange that occurred. It was heated and I do find myself on your side, but we're about to elect a crook. We're about to really fuck up our society(and I don't mean the end of the world), why? Because the majority of people truly dislike these candidates and there's going to be some serious outrage once one of these crooks is elected. This is more then right vs left...our whole system has been exposed and we're disgusted with what we're witnessing. A majority of us have lost complete faith in our system and we're now pissed about it!
    Look at the shit JC is posting and tell me with an honest heart that you are proud of your candidate.
    We're about to elect a crook? And you are voting for Trump.....got it
    Yes, I am voting for Trump. Yes, he is a crook. It makes me sick that I'm doing so, but I do believe he'll be much easier to impeach. He wont have the DOJ, FBI, and Media protecting him. Most republicans don't even like him. We'll then get Mike Pence, which means that you'll continue to have all this free time to read about politics and watch youtube videos... that's not such a bad outlook for you.

    Pence is still worse than Hillary. And yes, the hype is manufactured when the same things have happened in the past and hardly anyone gave a poop.
    You're generalizing. And, yes, many of us did give a poop. As a matter of fact someone threw their shoe a GWB. We gave a poop then and we give a poop now.

    Read some of the content JC is posting. Read it with an open mind. It helps get a better understanding of the reality that exist.

    peace.
    Generalizing isn't the right word. I'm making an observation. The left hated Bush after he was in office primarily for war crimes. There was minimal outrage for his shady connections, slimy campaign tactics, or bazillions of missing emails. The complaints about Hillary are blown up and hyped when you put it in historic context. A lot of people are outraged because they're being told to be outraged.
    Not blown up and hyped. All real. Just say you're indifferent to it. Would be a much easier argument for you to make.
    People are told it's a big deal, so they think it's a big deal. The lack of attention given to the same issues in the past said that it wasn't a big deal. The only thing real are the facts. People's responses are real, but not in a factual sense, but in the subjective sense. I'm giving my reaction to it, and it's not indifference.
    Oh...so I only think it's a big deal because I was told it's a big deal. A private server was set up by a secretary of state so that she could avoid transperancy laws while selling influence through her foundation and jeopardized national security in the process. That has not been done before and it is a big deal. Nobody needed to tell me that to know it and I will hold the candle...
    Are you sure it hasn't been done before? I'm thinking it's been done multiple times. And no, individuals may think it's a big deal outside of media hype, but the question to them is whether they thougjt it was a big deal when it happened in the past.
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    LOL, people that are ready for this actually have places away from cities. Yep, people are going to die. This system is unsustainable.

    And no, I don't live in Chicago, I'm not a freaking idiot.

    Now I have a better understanding about your beliefs about racial purity.
    You know nothing John Snow.
    The segregation around that area breeds cultural ignorance unless the person really makes an effort to overcome it. When they don't do that, the ignorance really fuels fear.
    Let's keep the convo on important matters, right Kat
    You don't think racism is an important issue? It's been an underlying theme for awhile now, since we've heard from politicians that we need to "take our country back", and that Trump had said blatantly racist things and also draws a high level of support from white supremacists.
    I absolutely do. I'm Hispanic and a diehard progressive, so you could understand why I might care about it just a little more.
    Personally I just don't think one member's opinion on here is more important then this election.
    Trump might be supported by racist, but they aren't enough to defeat us. Also, if said member wants to preserve a race of people, that's fine with me, if said member wants to protect the law and boarders that's also fine with me.

    But I get where you're coming from and I remember the exchange that occurred. It was heated and I do find myself on your side, but we're about to elect a crook. We're about to really fuck up our society(and I don't mean the end of the world), why? Because the majority of people truly dislike these candidates and there's going to be some serious outrage once one of these crooks is elected. This is more then right vs left...our whole system has been exposed and we're disgusted with what we're witnessing. A majority of us have lost complete faith in our system and we're now pissed about it!
    Look at the shit JC is posting and tell me with an honest heart that you are proud of your candidate.
    We're about to elect a crook? And you are voting for Trump.....got it
    Yes, I am voting for Trump. Yes, he is a crook. It makes me sick that I'm doing so, but I do believe he'll be much easier to impeach. He wont have the DOJ, FBI, and Media protecting him. Most republicans don't even like him. We'll then get Mike Pence, which means that you'll continue to have all this free time to read about politics and watch youtube videos... that's not such a bad outlook for you.

    Pence is still worse than Hillary. And yes, the hype is manufactured when the same things have happened in the past and hardly anyone gave a poop.
    You're generalizing. And, yes, many of us did give a poop. As a matter of fact someone threw their shoe a GWB. We gave a poop then and we give a poop now.

    Read some of the content JC is posting. Read it with an open mind. It helps get a better understanding of the reality that exist.

    peace.
    Generalizing isn't the right word. I'm making an observation. The left hated Bush after he was in office primarily for war crimes. There was minimal outrage for his shady connections, slimy campaign tactics, or bazillions of missing emails. The complaints about Hillary are blown up and hyped when you put it in historic context. A lot of people are outraged because they're being told to be outraged.
    Not blown up and hyped. All real. Just say you're indifferent to it. Would be a much easier argument for you to make.
    People are told it's a big deal, so they think it's a big deal. The lack of attention given to the same issues in the past said that it wasn't a big deal. The only thing real are the facts. People's responses are real, but not in a factual sense, but in the subjective sense. I'm giving my reaction to it, and it's not indifference.
    Oh...so I only think it's a big deal because I was told it's a big deal. A private server was set up by a secretary of state so that she could avoid transperancy laws while selling influence through her foundation and jeopardized national security in the process. That has not been done before and it is a big deal. Nobody needed to tell me that to know it and I will hold the candle...
    Avoid transparency? How in the name of christ has she down that?
    Do you even follow events? Again...I told you to go watch the Comey testimony to congress in full before weighing in on this topic. You would then have the answers to your above questions.
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,546
    unsung said:

    CM189191 said:

    igotid88 said:
    If you vote for Hillary you're a grown up.
    If you vote for Trump you're a sucker.
    If you don't vote for anyone you're an asshole.
    - Louis CK

    I'd say that pretty well sums it up.
    I guess I am an asshole.

    Oh, and a racist too. Can't forget to let the libs call me that because I don't agree with 98% of their policies. Gotta let them have that talking point because they can't logically argue their policies.
    I figured you were called racist because you were concerned about the white race being watered down due to intermingling.
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,177
    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    LOL, people that are ready for this actually have places away from cities. Yep, people are going to die. This system is unsustainable.

    And no, I don't live in Chicago, I'm not a freaking idiot.

    Now I have a better understanding about your beliefs about racial purity.
    You know nothing John Snow.
    The segregation around that area breeds cultural ignorance unless the person really makes an effort to overcome it. When they don't do that, the ignorance really fuels fear.
    Let's keep the convo on important matters, right Kat
    You don't think racism is an important issue? It's been an underlying theme for awhile now, since we've heard from politicians that we need to "take our country back", and that Trump had said blatantly racist things and also draws a high level of support from white supremacists.
    I absolutely do. I'm Hispanic and a diehard progressive, so you could understand why I might care about it just a little more.
    Personally I just don't think one member's opinion on here is more important then this election.
    Trump might be supported by racist, but they aren't enough to defeat us. Also, if said member wants to preserve a race of people, that's fine with me, if said member wants to protect the law and boarders that's also fine with me.

    But I get where you're coming from and I remember the exchange that occurred. It was heated and I do find myself on your side, but we're about to elect a crook. We're about to really fuck up our society(and I don't mean the end of the world), why? Because the majority of people truly dislike these candidates and there's going to be some serious outrage once one of these crooks is elected. This is more then right vs left...our whole system has been exposed and we're disgusted with what we're witnessing. A majority of us have lost complete faith in our system and we're now pissed about it!
    Look at the shit JC is posting and tell me with an honest heart that you are proud of your candidate.
    We're about to elect a crook? And you are voting for Trump.....got it
    Yes, I am voting for Trump. Yes, he is a crook. It makes me sick that I'm doing so, but I do believe he'll be much easier to impeach. He wont have the DOJ, FBI, and Media protecting him. Most republicans don't even like him. We'll then get Mike Pence, which means that you'll continue to have all this free time to read about politics and watch youtube videos... that's not such a bad outlook for you.

    Pence is still worse than Hillary. And yes, the hype is manufactured when the same things have happened in the past and hardly anyone gave a poop.
    You're generalizing. And, yes, many of us did give a poop. As a matter of fact someone threw their shoe a GWB. We gave a poop then and we give a poop now.

    Read some of the content JC is posting. Read it with an open mind. It helps get a better understanding of the reality that exist.

    peace.
    Generalizing isn't the right word. I'm making an observation. The left hated Bush after he was in office primarily for war crimes. There was minimal outrage for his shady connections, slimy campaign tactics, or bazillions of missing emails. The complaints about Hillary are blown up and hyped when you put it in historic context. A lot of people are outraged because they're being told to be outraged.
    Not blown up and hyped. All real. Just say you're indifferent to it. Would be a much easier argument for you to make.
    People are told it's a big deal, so they think it's a big deal. The lack of attention given to the same issues in the past said that it wasn't a big deal. The only thing real are the facts. People's responses are real, but not in a factual sense, but in the subjective sense. I'm giving my reaction to it, and it's not indifference.
    Oh...so I only think it's a big deal because I was told it's a big deal. A private server was set up by a secretary of state so that she could avoid transperancy laws while selling influence through her foundation and jeopardized national security in the process. That has not been done before and it is a big deal. Nobody needed to tell me that to know it and I will hold the candle...
    Avoid transparency? How in the name of christ has she down that?
    Do you even follow events? Again...I told you to go watch the Comey testimony to congress in full before weighing in on this topic. You would then have the answers to your above questions.
    Yeah I do...I follow events and steer clear of right wing bullshit.
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  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    LOL, people that are ready for this actually have places away from cities. Yep, people are going to die. This system is unsustainable.

    And no, I don't live in Chicago, I'm not a freaking idiot.

    Now I have a better understanding about your beliefs about racial purity.
    You know nothing John Snow.
    The segregation around that area breeds cultural ignorance unless the person really makes an effort to overcome it. When they don't do that, the ignorance really fuels fear.
    Let's keep the convo on important matters, right Kat
    You don't think racism is an important issue? It's been an underlying theme for awhile now, since we've heard from politicians that we need to "take our country back", and that Trump had said blatantly racist things and also draws a high level of support from white supremacists.
    I absolutely do. I'm Hispanic and a diehard progressive, so you could understand why I might care about it just a little more.
    Personally I just don't think one member's opinion on here is more important then this election.
    Trump might be supported by racist, but they aren't enough to defeat us. Also, if said member wants to preserve a race of people, that's fine with me, if said member wants to protect the law and boarders that's also fine with me.

    But I get where you're coming from and I remember the exchange that occurred. It was heated and I do find myself on your side, but we're about to elect a crook. We're about to really fuck up our society(and I don't mean the end of the world), why? Because the majority of people truly dislike these candidates and there's going to be some serious outrage once one of these crooks is elected. This is more then right vs left...our whole system has been exposed and we're disgusted with what we're witnessing. A majority of us have lost complete faith in our system and we're now pissed about it!
    Look at the shit JC is posting and tell me with an honest heart that you are proud of your candidate.
    We're about to elect a crook? And you are voting for Trump.....got it
    Yes, I am voting for Trump. Yes, he is a crook. It makes me sick that I'm doing so, but I do believe he'll be much easier to impeach. He wont have the DOJ, FBI, and Media protecting him. Most republicans don't even like him. We'll then get Mike Pence, which means that you'll continue to have all this free time to read about politics and watch youtube videos... that's not such a bad outlook for you.

    Pence is still worse than Hillary. And yes, the hype is manufactured when the same things have happened in the past and hardly anyone gave a poop.
    You're generalizing. And, yes, many of us did give a poop. As a matter of fact someone threw their shoe a GWB. We gave a poop then and we give a poop now.

    Read some of the content JC is posting. Read it with an open mind. It helps get a better understanding of the reality that exist.

    peace.
    Generalizing isn't the right word. I'm making an observation. The left hated Bush after he was in office primarily for war crimes. There was minimal outrage for his shady connections, slimy campaign tactics, or bazillions of missing emails. The complaints about Hillary are blown up and hyped when you put it in historic context. A lot of people are outraged because they're being told to be outraged.
    Not blown up and hyped. All real. Just say you're indifferent to it. Would be a much easier argument for you to make.
    People are told it's a big deal, so they think it's a big deal. The lack of attention given to the same issues in the past said that it wasn't a big deal. The only thing real are the facts. People's responses are real, but not in a factual sense, but in the subjective sense. I'm giving my reaction to it, and it's not indifference.
    Oh...so I only think it's a big deal because I was told it's a big deal. A private server was set up by a secretary of state so that she could avoid transperancy laws while selling influence through her foundation and jeopardized national security in the process. That has not been done before and it is a big deal. Nobody needed to tell me that to know it and I will hold the candle...
    Avoid transparency? How in the name of christ has she down that?
    Do you even follow events? Again...I told you to go watch the Comey testimony to congress in full before weighing in on this topic. You would then have the answers to your above questions.
    Yeah I do...I follow events and steer clear of right wing bullshit.
    Oh...so Comey's testimony was "right wing bullshit". Gotcha.
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