Canadian Politics Redux

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  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    Paul Bernardo’s day-parole hearing scheduled for March; families of his teen murder victims ‘gutted’

    http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/paul-bernardos-day-parole-hearing-scheduled-for-march-families-of-his-teen-murder-victims-gutted

    Just giving him a hearing is is ridiculous in itself ...
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,715
    edited November 2016
    lukin2006 said:

    Paul Bernardo’s day-parole hearing scheduled for March; families of his teen murder victims ‘gutted’

    http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/paul-bernardos-day-parole-hearing-scheduled-for-march-families-of-his-teen-murder-victims-gutted

    Just giving him a hearing is is ridiculous in itself ...

    Yeah. I agree he'll never get out, but it is awful that the families have to deal with this process. I do kind of wish Canada had a life without parole sentence, reserved only for the most extreme cases, so that the families of the victims of the worst crimes didn't have to readdress the whole thing periodically. I mean, to think that Clifford Olson got parole hearings, and that Willy Pickton will too, is pretty outrageous. And that day-parole would even be an option for Bernardo... I mean, why bother? Seems like a huge waste of resources. Although this is not anywhere near as shocking or maddening than the fact that that fucking Karla Homolka got barely more than a slap on the wrist and is now remarried and has kids and shit. The authorities REALLY royally fucked up as far as she's concerned (and they know it). The whole story about her and how she got off so light is absolutely infuriating.
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  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    I agree he's never getting out, its the families the should not have to go through these proceedings. I would have no problem with life throw away the key...
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,715
    lukin2006 said:

    I agree he's never getting out, its the families the should not have to go through these proceedings. I would have no problem with life throw away the key...

    They could, of course, not attend and request that they not even be notified of such proceedings. Still not fair, but just sayin'.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • PJ_Soul said:

    lukin2006 said:

    I agree he's never getting out, its the families the should not have to go through these proceedings. I would have no problem with life throw away the key...

    They could, of course, not attend and request that they not even be notified of such proceedings. Still not fair, but just sayin'.
    They could, of course, not have to attend because the asshole is rotting in the ground after he received a sentence of death like he deserved. Very fair given his offences... just sayin'.

    These people are heavily invested. Their children were taken from them in the most horrific manner imaginable.
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  • And Hugh... I'm a proud Canadian as well. It was weird to hear you gush about us. Typically speaking... Canadians don't thump their chests too much.

    I'm not saying don't do it. I'm just saying it is uncommon.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    PJ_Soul said:

    lukin2006 said:

    I agree he's never getting out, its the families the should not have to go through these proceedings. I would have no problem with life throw away the key...

    They could, of course, not attend and request that they not even be notified of such proceedings. Still not fair, but just sayin'.
    I guess they could, but then I guess the government could change the criminal code for extremely heinous crimes and make life mandatory no parole, no faint hope clause, nothing ... 24 hours a day in a 3 by 6 cell ...
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087

    PJ_Soul said:

    lukin2006 said:

    I agree he's never getting out, its the families the should not have to go through these proceedings. I would have no problem with life throw away the key...

    They could, of course, not attend and request that they not even be notified of such proceedings. Still not fair, but just sayin'.
    They could, of course, not have to attend because the asshole is rotting in the ground after he received a sentence of death like he deserved. Very fair given his offences... just sayin'.

    These people are heavily invested. Their children were taken from them in the most horrific manner imaginable.
    I have no problem with capital punishment in cases like this, monsters who video tape their crimes deserve a special section in the criminal code. There is no doubt he did it, it was taped, evidence is clear. The part I never liked about locking guys like this up is you know he relives his crimes in his sick and twisted mind...and as always happens, the victims are made to possibly suffer through a parole board hearing that never should take place...ridiculous.
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,583

    And Hugh... I'm a proud Canadian as well. It was weird to hear you gush about us. Typically speaking... Canadians don't thump their chests too much.

    I'm not saying don't do it. I'm just saying it is uncommon.

    it's more of a feeling of thanks than it is thumping my chest. i'm not that type of person at all.
    By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.




  • And Hugh... I'm a proud Canadian as well. It was weird to hear you gush about us. Typically speaking... Canadians don't thump their chests too much.

    I'm not saying don't do it. I'm just saying it is uncommon.

    it's more of a feeling of thanks than it is thumping my chest. i'm not that type of person at all.
    HFD
    Sometimes you just have to admit out loud and be proud where you are from.
    Not all the time like the Americans :wink:
  • And Hugh... I'm a proud Canadian as well. It was weird to hear you gush about us. Typically speaking... Canadians don't thump their chests too much.

    I'm not saying don't do it. I'm just saying it is uncommon.

    it's more of a feeling of thanks than it is thumping my chest. i'm not that type of person at all.
    I understood that. It's all good.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,583

    And Hugh... I'm a proud Canadian as well. It was weird to hear you gush about us. Typically speaking... Canadians don't thump their chests too much.

    I'm not saying don't do it. I'm just saying it is uncommon.

    it's more of a feeling of thanks than it is thumping my chest. i'm not that type of person at all.
    HFD
    Sometimes you just have to admit out loud and be proud where you are from.
    Not all the time like the Americans :wink:
    honestly, I find national pride to be quite ridiculous. why be proud of my geographical birth location? that doesn't make any sense to me. I am just thankful that our electoral system isn't a global joke that costs trillions of dollars to choose between a crook and a child rapist.
    By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.




  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    Kind of makes Harper not so bad...hahahahahaha
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,583
    lukin2006 said:

    Kind of makes Harper not so bad...hahahahahaha

    no question about it. but what I am also impressed with is our lack of partisanship in canada. trudeau won by a landslide. you don't ever see a landslide in the states in modern times. too much partisan entrenchment, no matter how much of an idiot their candidate is. it's always 50/50.
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  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    edited November 2016
    Well Trudeau only had 39% of the vote, so 61% of voters saw him as not suitable, and broken down further it likely far less of eligible voters...and yes in our out dated system he won a majority of the seats. Thats why I think he back tracking on election reform, if election reform comes about he'd likely lose the power he enjoys...I originally figured he'd easily get 2 terms, i just recently read that he losing the millennials and they were a major reason he won the majority of seats.
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    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    lukin2006 said:

    Well Trudeau only had 39% of the vote, so 61% of voters saw him as not suitable, and broken down further it likely far less of edible voters...and yes in our out dated system he won a majority of the seats. Thats why I think he back tracking on election reform, if election reform comes about he'd likely lose the power he enjoys...I originally figured he'd easily get 2 terms, i just recently read that he losing the millennials and they were a major reason he won the majority of seats.

    Jesus, I'm not voting anywhere near you!
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  • lukin2006 said:

    Kind of makes Harper not so bad...hahahahahaha

    no question about it. but what I am also impressed with is our lack of partisanship in canada. trudeau won by a landslide. you don't ever see a landslide in the states in modern times. too much partisan entrenchment, no matter how much of an idiot their candidate is. it's always 50/50.
    Great point.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087

    lukin2006 said:

    Well Trudeau only had 39% of the vote, so 61% of voters saw him as not suitable, and broken down further it likely far less of edible voters...and yes in our out dated system he won a majority of the seats. Thats why I think he back tracking on election reform, if election reform comes about he'd likely lose the power he enjoys...I originally figured he'd easily get 2 terms, i just recently read that he losing the millennials and they were a major reason he won the majority of seats.

    Jesus, I'm not voting anywhere near you!
    hahaha...typo
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    I'm just glad our elections aren't bat shit crazy and don't last 4 years, you think its over November 8 th, just wonder how long it'll be before the news starts the speculation who will be representing the republicans in 4 years.
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,583
    lukin2006 said:

    Well Trudeau only had 39% of the vote, so 61% of voters saw him as not suitable, and broken down further it likely far less of eligible voters...and yes in our out dated system he won a majority of the seats. Thats why I think he back tracking on election reform, if election reform comes about he'd likely lose the power he enjoys...I originally figured he'd easily get 2 terms, i just recently read that he losing the millennials and they were a major reason he won the majority of seats.

    39% is high with 3 major parties and 2 other minor parties. that IS a majority win.

    i love edible voters. tasty.
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