Hillary won more votes for President

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,694
    edited October 2016
    rssesq said:
    This to me just makes Hillary seem a lot smarter than her opponents. I don't think she's the one who should be criticized about this.... If I really wanted to win an election I'd try to get the media on my side too. Brilliant.
    The fucking press needs to be put under a microscope though. Is the journalistic ideal dead in America? That is an issue unrelated to Hillary Clinton or any other politician in particular.
    But then my third thought comes up.... What exactly was the press expected to do in this case? Act as though Trump is perfectly normal, and a reasonable candidate for POTUS???? I feel like Trump himself put the press in an impossible situation if it's total objectivity people are looking for in this election cycle. I mean, if you had a chimp running against Hillary, would the press be expected to take that seriously too? To not just be honest with the clear fact that a chimp is not a legitimate nominee? I honestly think that is a perfectly valid comparison to the Clinton vs Trump situation and how the mainstream press is supposed to handle it.
    FWIW, I think Bernie Sanders got okay treatment from the press, but probably not enough. If we're looking to really evaluate how the press is biased towards Hillary, that would be the case study to look at.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • rssesq
    rssesq Fairfield County Posts: 3,299
    PS that hermes tie the king is rocking is FAHHHBULOUS!
  • ^^^
    It is better to post links to videos.
    That way people can choose to click on it or not.
    I'd assume though that if it is a positive Hillary video only people can post away.

    nonsense. but keep whining.
    I would love to post a video right now to show you how I feel about Hillary.
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    PJ_Soul said:

    rssesq said:
    This to me just makes Hillary seem a lot smarter than her opponents. I don't think she's the one who should be criticized about this.... If I really wanted to win an election I'd try to get the media on my side too. Brilliant.
    The fucking press needs to be put under a microscope though. Is the journalistic ideal dead in America? That is an issue unrelated to Hillary Clinton or any other politician in particular.
    But then my third thought comes up.... What exactly was the press expected to do in this case? Act as though Trump is perfectly normal, and a reasonable candidate for POTUS???? I feel like Trump himself put the press in an impossible situation if it's total objectivity people are looking for in this election cycle. I mean, if you had a chimp running against Hillary, would the press be expected to take that seriously to? To not just be honest with the clear fact that a chimp is not a legitimate nominee? I honestly think that is a perfectly valid comparison to the Clinton vs Trump situation and how the mainstream press is supposed to handle it.
    FWIW, I think Bernie Sanders got okay treatment from the press, but probably not enough. If we're looking to really evaluate how the press is biased towards Hillary, that would be the case study to look at.
    lol
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  • lukin2006 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    rssesq said:
    This to me just makes Hillary seem a lot smarter than her opponents. I don't think she's the one who should be criticized about this.... If I really wanted to win an election I'd try to get the media on my side too. Brilliant.
    The fucking press needs to be put under a microscope though. Is the journalistic ideal dead in America? That is an issue unrelated to Hillary Clinton or any other politician in particular.
    But then my third thought comes up.... What exactly was the press expected to do in this case? Act as though Trump is perfectly normal, and a reasonable candidate for POTUS???? I feel like Trump himself put the press in an impossible situation if it's total objectivity people are looking for in this election cycle. I mean, if you had a chimp running against Hillary, would the press be expected to take that seriously to? To not just be honest with the clear fact that a chimp is not a legitimate nominee? I honestly think that is a perfectly valid comparison to the Clinton vs Trump situation and how the mainstream press is supposed to handle it.
    FWIW, I think Bernie Sanders got okay treatment from the press, but probably not enough. If we're looking to really evaluate how the press is biased towards Hillary, that would be the case study to look at.
    lol
    This is what makes a non-Hillary supporter (doesn't mean a Trump supporter) have a headache.
    Reading opinions like this.
    No coherency whatsoever.
    Of course in no personal way whatsoever as well.

  • Boxes&Books
    Boxes&Books USA Posts: 2,672
    lukin2006 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    rssesq said:
    This to me just makes Hillary seem a lot smarter than her opponents. I don't think she's the one who should be criticized about this.... If I really wanted to win an election I'd try to get the media on my side too. Brilliant.
    The fucking press needs to be put under a microscope though. Is the journalistic ideal dead in America? That is an issue unrelated to Hillary Clinton or any other politician in particular.
    But then my third thought comes up.... What exactly was the press expected to do in this case? Act as though Trump is perfectly normal, and a reasonable candidate for POTUS???? I feel like Trump himself put the press in an impossible situation if it's total objectivity people are looking for in this election cycle. I mean, if you had a chimp running against Hillary, would the press be expected to take that seriously to? To not just be honest with the clear fact that a chimp is not a legitimate nominee? I honestly think that is a perfectly valid comparison to the Clinton vs Trump situation and how the mainstream press is supposed to handle it.
    FWIW, I think Bernie Sanders got okay treatment from the press, but probably not enough. If we're looking to really evaluate how the press is biased towards Hillary, that would be the case study to look at.
    lol
    I'm joining that LOL... Bernie Sanders got okay treatment?!?! ... WTF... Anyhow.. those types of comments have been posted over and over and over... They're a drain to read and it's incredible how people continue to make excuses... excuse after excuse after excuse...
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,694

    lukin2006 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    rssesq said:
    This to me just makes Hillary seem a lot smarter than her opponents. I don't think she's the one who should be criticized about this.... If I really wanted to win an election I'd try to get the media on my side too. Brilliant.
    The fucking press needs to be put under a microscope though. Is the journalistic ideal dead in America? That is an issue unrelated to Hillary Clinton or any other politician in particular.
    But then my third thought comes up.... What exactly was the press expected to do in this case? Act as though Trump is perfectly normal, and a reasonable candidate for POTUS???? I feel like Trump himself put the press in an impossible situation if it's total objectivity people are looking for in this election cycle. I mean, if you had a chimp running against Hillary, would the press be expected to take that seriously to? To not just be honest with the clear fact that a chimp is not a legitimate nominee? I honestly think that is a perfectly valid comparison to the Clinton vs Trump situation and how the mainstream press is supposed to handle it.
    FWIW, I think Bernie Sanders got okay treatment from the press, but probably not enough. If we're looking to really evaluate how the press is biased towards Hillary, that would be the case study to look at.
    lol
    This is what makes a non-Hillary supporter (doesn't mean a Trump supporter) have a headache.
    Reading opinions like this.
    No coherency whatsoever.
    Of course in no personal way whatsoever as well.

    It's perfectly coherent - maybe you don't know what that word means.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,694
    tonifig8 said:

    lukin2006 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    rssesq said:
    This to me just makes Hillary seem a lot smarter than her opponents. I don't think she's the one who should be criticized about this.... If I really wanted to win an election I'd try to get the media on my side too. Brilliant.
    The fucking press needs to be put under a microscope though. Is the journalistic ideal dead in America? That is an issue unrelated to Hillary Clinton or any other politician in particular.
    But then my third thought comes up.... What exactly was the press expected to do in this case? Act as though Trump is perfectly normal, and a reasonable candidate for POTUS???? I feel like Trump himself put the press in an impossible situation if it's total objectivity people are looking for in this election cycle. I mean, if you had a chimp running against Hillary, would the press be expected to take that seriously to? To not just be honest with the clear fact that a chimp is not a legitimate nominee? I honestly think that is a perfectly valid comparison to the Clinton vs Trump situation and how the mainstream press is supposed to handle it.
    FWIW, I think Bernie Sanders got okay treatment from the press, but probably not enough. If we're looking to really evaluate how the press is biased towards Hillary, that would be the case study to look at.
    lol
    I'm joining that LOL... Bernie Sanders got okay treatment?!?! ... WTF... Anyhow.. those types of comments have been posted over and over and over... They're a drain to read and it's incredible how people continue to make excuses... excuse after excuse after excuse...
    Seemed to me that the press like Bernie. What examples can you give showing that Bernie was badly treated by the media besides the point I already mentioned, which was not enough coverage?

    What about my post seemed like an excuse to you? Do you not agree that objectivity of the media is the responsibility of the media and not a political candidate trying to win an election?
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,883
    tonifig8 said:

    lukin2006 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    rssesq said:
    This to me just makes Hillary seem a lot smarter than her opponents. I don't think she's the one who should be criticized about this.... If I really wanted to win an election I'd try to get the media on my side too. Brilliant.
    The fucking press needs to be put under a microscope though. Is the journalistic ideal dead in America? That is an issue unrelated to Hillary Clinton or any other politician in particular.
    But then my third thought comes up.... What exactly was the press expected to do in this case? Act as though Trump is perfectly normal, and a reasonable candidate for POTUS???? I feel like Trump himself put the press in an impossible situation if it's total objectivity people are looking for in this election cycle. I mean, if you had a chimp running against Hillary, would the press be expected to take that seriously to? To not just be honest with the clear fact that a chimp is not a legitimate nominee? I honestly think that is a perfectly valid comparison to the Clinton vs Trump situation and how the mainstream press is supposed to handle it.
    FWIW, I think Bernie Sanders got okay treatment from the press, but probably not enough. If we're looking to really evaluate how the press is biased towards Hillary, that would be the case study to look at.
    lol
    I'm joining that LOL... Bernie Sanders got okay treatment?!?! ... WTF... Anyhow.. those types of comments have been posted over and over and over... They're a drain to read and it's incredible how people continue to make excuses... excuse after excuse after excuse...
    First off, the media wasnt tough on Bernie at all. They didnt challenge his policies and didnt explore his past. I'll buy that he didn't get as much TV time as Hillary, but Trump got more than any candidate and the right wing wasn't complaining about it being rigged for that reason.

    Second, Huffington Post absolutely fawned over Bernie and savaged Hillary until she won the nomination. And they are not exactly small time. They are in the top 5 media sites in the country. It's where Democrats go for mainstream news and I'm sure you can't argue that point.
  • rssesq
    rssesq Fairfield County Posts: 3,299
    msnbc is where most dems go for mainlinemedia
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited October 2016
    mrussel1 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    lukin2006 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    rssesq said:
    This to me just makes Hillary seem a lot smarter than her opponents. I don't think she's the one who should be criticized about this.... If I really wanted to win an election I'd try to get the media on my side too. Brilliant.
    The fucking press needs to be put under a microscope though. Is the journalistic ideal dead in America? That is an issue unrelated to Hillary Clinton or any other politician in particular.
    But then my third thought comes up.... What exactly was the press expected to do in this case? Act as though Trump is perfectly normal, and a reasonable candidate for POTUS???? I feel like Trump himself put the press in an impossible situation if it's total objectivity people are looking for in this election cycle. I mean, if you had a chimp running against Hillary, would the press be expected to take that seriously to? To not just be honest with the clear fact that a chimp is not a legitimate nominee? I honestly think that is a perfectly valid comparison to the Clinton vs Trump situation and how the mainstream press is supposed to handle it.
    FWIW, I think Bernie Sanders got okay treatment from the press, but probably not enough. If we're looking to really evaluate how the press is biased towards Hillary, that would be the case study to look at.
    lol
    I'm joining that LOL... Bernie Sanders got okay treatment?!?! ... WTF... Anyhow.. those types of comments have been posted over and over and over... They're a drain to read and it's incredible how people continue to make excuses... excuse after excuse after excuse...
    First off, the media wasnt tough on Bernie at all. They didnt challenge his policies and didnt explore his past. I'll buy that he didn't get as much TV time as Hillary, but Trump got more than any candidate and the right wing wasn't complaining about it being rigged for that reason.

    Second, Huffington Post absolutely fawned over Bernie and savaged Hillary until she won the nomination. And they are not exactly small time. They are in the top 5 media sites in the country. It's where Democrats go for mainstream news and I'm sure you can't argue that point.
    First - No one cared about him or his policies.

    Second - That may be where Dems go but it certainly isn't where others go.

    Third - This is a Hillary for POTUS thread. Get happy! She is the next POTUS! Positive vibes only here mister.
  • PJ_Soul said:

    lukin2006 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    rssesq said:
    This to me just makes Hillary seem a lot smarter than her opponents. I don't think she's the one who should be criticized about this.... If I really wanted to win an election I'd try to get the media on my side too. Brilliant.
    The fucking press needs to be put under a microscope though. Is the journalistic ideal dead in America? That is an issue unrelated to Hillary Clinton or any other politician in particular.
    But then my third thought comes up.... What exactly was the press expected to do in this case? Act as though Trump is perfectly normal, and a reasonable candidate for POTUS???? I feel like Trump himself put the press in an impossible situation if it's total objectivity people are looking for in this election cycle. I mean, if you had a chimp running against Hillary, would the press be expected to take that seriously to? To not just be honest with the clear fact that a chimp is not a legitimate nominee? I honestly think that is a perfectly valid comparison to the Clinton vs Trump situation and how the mainstream press is supposed to handle it.
    FWIW, I think Bernie Sanders got okay treatment from the press, but probably not enough. If we're looking to really evaluate how the press is biased towards Hillary, that would be the case study to look at.
    lol
    This is what makes a non-Hillary supporter (doesn't mean a Trump supporter) have a headache.
    Reading opinions like this.
    No coherency whatsoever.
    Of course in no personal way whatsoever as well.

    It's perfectly coherent - maybe you don't know what that word means.
    This is just another side.
    That is all. No more no less.
    http://reason.com/archives/2016/07/25/hillary-clintons-dangerously-coherent-fo
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,883
    rssesq said:

    msnbc is where most dems go for mainlinemedia

    TV yes, but online is definitely Huffington. I don't know if MSNBC was partial to HRC or not. I didn't really watch it. I would have thought Maddow would be pro HRC, but may be wrong.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,883

    mrussel1 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    lukin2006 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    rssesq said:
    This to me just makes Hillary seem a lot smarter than her opponents. I don't think she's the one who should be criticized about this.... If I really wanted to win an election I'd try to get the media on my side too. Brilliant.
    The fucking press needs to be put under a microscope though. Is the journalistic ideal dead in America? That is an issue unrelated to Hillary Clinton or any other politician in particular.
    But then my third thought comes up.... What exactly was the press expected to do in this case? Act as though Trump is perfectly normal, and a reasonable candidate for POTUS???? I feel like Trump himself put the press in an impossible situation if it's total objectivity people are looking for in this election cycle. I mean, if you had a chimp running against Hillary, would the press be expected to take that seriously to? To not just be honest with the clear fact that a chimp is not a legitimate nominee? I honestly think that is a perfectly valid comparison to the Clinton vs Trump situation and how the mainstream press is supposed to handle it.
    FWIW, I think Bernie Sanders got okay treatment from the press, but probably not enough. If we're looking to really evaluate how the press is biased towards Hillary, that would be the case study to look at.
    lol
    I'm joining that LOL... Bernie Sanders got okay treatment?!?! ... WTF... Anyhow.. those types of comments have been posted over and over and over... They're a drain to read and it's incredible how people continue to make excuses... excuse after excuse after excuse...
    First off, the media wasnt tough on Bernie at all. They didnt challenge his policies and didnt explore his past. I'll buy that he didn't get as much TV time as Hillary, but Trump got more than any candidate and the right wing wasn't complaining about it being rigged for that reason.

    Second, Huffington Post absolutely fawned over Bernie and savaged Hillary until she won the nomination. And they are not exactly small time. They are in the top 5 media sites in the country. It's where Democrats go for mainstream news and I'm sure you can't argue that point.
    First - No one cared about him or his policies.

    Second - That may be where Dems go but it certainly isn't where others go.

    Third - This is a Hillary for POTUS thread. Get happy! She is the next POTUS! Positive vibes only here mister.
    Thanks for the contribution.
  • Boxes&Books
    Boxes&Books USA Posts: 2,672
    rssesq said:

    msnbc is where most dems go for mainlinemedia

    I must admit that use to be me. I haven't watched MSNBC in almost two years. Gave it up completely, been sober for almost two years...

    I use to be a big fan of Rachel M. and was probably one of maybe 10 people in the country who would actually watch lawrence o'donnell
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Shocking that the washington establishment is voting for the washington establishment.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,883
    BS44325 said:

    Shocking that the washington establishment is voting for the washington establishment.
    Yeah four star general, sec of state, etc. What a piece of shit.
  • mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    Shocking that the washington establishment is voting for the washington establishment.
    Yeah four star general, sec of state, etc. What a piece of shit.
    mrussel1 - Are you day drunk? You seem bitter and short so early.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,694

    PJ_Soul said:

    lukin2006 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    rssesq said:
    This to me just makes Hillary seem a lot smarter than her opponents. I don't think she's the one who should be criticized about this.... If I really wanted to win an election I'd try to get the media on my side too. Brilliant.
    The fucking press needs to be put under a microscope though. Is the journalistic ideal dead in America? That is an issue unrelated to Hillary Clinton or any other politician in particular.
    But then my third thought comes up.... What exactly was the press expected to do in this case? Act as though Trump is perfectly normal, and a reasonable candidate for POTUS???? I feel like Trump himself put the press in an impossible situation if it's total objectivity people are looking for in this election cycle. I mean, if you had a chimp running against Hillary, would the press be expected to take that seriously to? To not just be honest with the clear fact that a chimp is not a legitimate nominee? I honestly think that is a perfectly valid comparison to the Clinton vs Trump situation and how the mainstream press is supposed to handle it.
    FWIW, I think Bernie Sanders got okay treatment from the press, but probably not enough. If we're looking to really evaluate how the press is biased towards Hillary, that would be the case study to look at.
    lol
    This is what makes a non-Hillary supporter (doesn't mean a Trump supporter) have a headache.
    Reading opinions like this.
    No coherency whatsoever.
    Of course in no personal way whatsoever as well.

    It's perfectly coherent - maybe you don't know what that word means.
    This is just another side.
    That is all. No more no less.
    http://reason.com/archives/2016/07/25/hillary-clintons-dangerously-coherent-fo
    I totally agree that Trump is incoherent. He can barely string a real sentence together when he speaks.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,883
    tonifig8 said:

    rssesq said:

    msnbc is where most dems go for mainlinemedia

    I must admit that use to be me. I haven't watched MSNBC in almost two years. Gave it up completely, been sober for almost two years...

    I use to be a big fan of Rachel M. and was probably one of maybe 10 people in the country who would actually watch lawrence o'donnell
    Do you disagree with my post?

    Btw, I like O'Donnell as a guest but he isn't good enough to have his own show. He's not that interesting. Rachel is. So is Megan Kelly, btw. I think they are the two strongest political personalities today.
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