The Podesta Emails

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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited October 2016
    https://youtu.be/L7uXaQeJLfU


    Same script, attack the messenger, claim its fake or edited offer no proof no examples and of course everyone's favorite, blame the Russians.
    Post edited by JC29856 on
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Anyone want to discuss taking money?
    Always take the money, take the money and run for presz!

    Decision is final...we ARE taking it. Just wanted to flag that for everyone. On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 12:25 PM, Dennis Cheng wrote: > For internal planning purposes, it would be helpful to know if we are now > considering adopting a ban on PAC and lobbyist donations. > > On Feb 23, 2015, at 12:08 PM, Robby Mook wrote: > > FYI--not responding. > So we're all on the same page, when I discussed this with our strategy > team a while back we decided that we SHOULD accept lobbyist and PAC since > it's a bit disingenioius not to.


    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/26667
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Summarized:
    Bill Clinton made a speech in 2011 challenging the high price of AIDS medicine worldwide. Bill Clinton did not clear his remarks with his charity the Clinton Health Access Initiative.

    CHAI said whoa there Billy, you're pissing off our people in Big Pharma, they might end our discounts for cheap AIDS medicine in the third world. CHAI had an existing agreement with Big Pharma that they wouldn't publicly demand low prices on AIDS medicine in the western world.

    CHAI and Clinton Foundation schemed on how to mitigate Bill Clinton's remarks which pissed off Big Pharma and lead to other advocacy groups to plan to push for the import of cheap generics from India into the US and Europe.

    CHAI responded with a plan to fend off the advocacy groups. Rather than advocate for low prices, their plan was to create a limited program that only served poor people without insurance, with Big Pharma "donating" drugs. Insurance companies would still pay high prices, which translates down to high premiums and deductibles for those paying insurance.
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    35 pages of zippitty doo dah

    lol
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    JC29856 said:
    Wait a minute, because I think I'm agreeing with you here. So let me get this straight. The Governor of Virginia's super PAC put $500k into the state Senate race of a Democratic running for a seat. No, never mind that it was third largest donation made by the superpac. I mean..what's next? Next you're going to tell me that this candidate supports Terry's positions and priorities in the VA legislature... and that she WILL VOTE for those priorities. This is a clear quid pro quo on that level alone.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    JC29856 said:
    Wow, so weird... especially coming from HA Goodman who only wrote roughly 60 anti-Clinton screeds during the primary. Strange that the Russian gov't loves Clinton when Putin despises her and blames her for the pro-democracy uprisings in Russia and the Ukraine. Something seems to be amiss with Mr. Goodman's analysis. I think the old saying is..."he can't see the fucking forest for the trees".
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    mrussel1 said:

    JC29856 said:
    Wow, so weird... especially coming from HA Goodman who only wrote roughly 60 anti-Clinton screeds during the primary. Strange that the Russian gov't loves Clinton when Putin despises her and blames her for the pro-democracy uprisings in Russia and the Ukraine. Something seems to be amiss with Mr. Goodman's analysis. I think the old saying is..."he can't see the fucking forest for the trees".
    Multiple choice question:
    Who received $500k from Russian syndicate?
    Snowden
    Goodman
    Assange
    Arkansas Bill
    JC29856
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    mrussel1 said:

    JC29856 said:
    Wait a minute, because I think I'm agreeing with you here. So let me get this straight. The Governor of Virginia's super PAC put $500k into the state Senate race of a Democratic running for a seat. No, never mind that it was third largest donation made by the superpac. I mean..what's next? Next you're going to tell me that this candidate supports Terry's positions and priorities in the VA legislature... and that she WILL VOTE for those priorities. This is a clear quid pro quo on that level alone.
    At least we agree to the sleaziness of TMc

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/05/24/so-what-exactly-is-virginia-gov-terry-mcauliffe-being-investigated-for/

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/10/mcauliffe-aided-wife-of-fbi-official-handling-clinton-probe.html

    She uses 1 of your favorite words in that one.
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,144
    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2016/oct/23/are-clinton-wikileaks-emails-doctored-or-are-they-/
    "I would be shocked if the emails weren't altered," said Jamie Winterton, director of strategy for Arizona State University’s Global Security Initiative, citing Russia’s long history of spreading disinformation.

    Experts pointed to the Democratic National Committee email hack that happened earlier this year. Metadata from the stolen and leaked documents showed the hackers had edited documents. For example, hackers were kicked out of the DNC network June 11, yet among their documents is a file that was created on June 15, found Thomas Rid, a war studies professor at King’s College London.

    A few weeks later, Guccifer 2.0, the hacker believed to have Russian ties, released documents supposedly stolen from the Clinton Foundation. But security analysts reviewed the documents and found that they actually came from the DNC hacks, not the foundation. And some of the information was likely fabricated, like a folder conspicuously titled "Pay to Play."

    In massive document dumps like the Podesta email leak, the risk of encountering altered documents is heightened because it’s easy to slip them in among thousands of genuine documents, said Susan Hennessey, a Brookings Institution fellow and former lawyer for the National Security Agency.

    "It is possible the WikiLeaks dump of Podesta’s emails includes forged or altered documents," Hennessey said. "With any large leak, it is wise to proceed with caution and skepticism and verify the authenticity of documents before reporting."
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  • Boxes&Books
    Boxes&Books USA Posts: 2,672
    JC29856 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    JC29856 said:
    Wait a minute, because I think I'm agreeing with you here. So let me get this straight. The Governor of Virginia's super PAC put $500k into the state Senate race of a Democratic running for a seat. No, never mind that it was third largest donation made by the superpac. I mean..what's next? Next you're going to tell me that this candidate supports Terry's positions and priorities in the VA legislature... and that she WILL VOTE for those priorities. This is a clear quid pro quo on that level alone.
    At least we agree to the sleaziness of TMc

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/05/24/so-what-exactly-is-virginia-gov-terry-mcauliffe-being-investigated-for/

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/10/mcauliffe-aided-wife-of-fbi-official-handling-clinton-probe.html

    She uses 1 of your favorite words in that one.
    What's one of his favorite words? Distort and distract? No wait that's the other guys fave.

    Matt the minute someone gives a negative review of Clinton, does that automatically discredit them from producing anything legitimate? Because your excuse was that said writer wrote a handful of anti-Clinton pieces , therefore what he's saying isn't legit?
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    ....any....day...now....
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    JC29856 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    JC29856 said:
    Wait a minute, because I think I'm agreeing with you here. So let me get this straight. The Governor of Virginia's super PAC put $500k into the state Senate race of a Democratic running for a seat. No, never mind that it was third largest donation made by the superpac. I mean..what's next? Next you're going to tell me that this candidate supports Terry's positions and priorities in the VA legislature... and that she WILL VOTE for those priorities. This is a clear quid pro quo on that level alone.
    At least we agree to the sleaziness of TMc

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/05/24/so-what-exactly-is-virginia-gov-terry-mcauliffe-being-investigated-for/

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/10/mcauliffe-aided-wife-of-fbi-official-handling-clinton-probe.html

    She uses 1 of your favorite words in that one.
    Yes... the shock and horror of a Governor working to get the legislature most likely to deliver his agenda is overwhelming. Whatever shall we do with this dirty Republic?
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Lol
    mrussel1 said:

    JC29856 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    JC29856 said:
    Wait a minute, because I think I'm agreeing with you here. So let me get this straight. The Governor of Virginia's super PAC put $500k into the state Senate race of a Democratic running for a seat. No, never mind that it was third largest donation made by the superpac. I mean..what's next? Next you're going to tell me that this candidate supports Terry's positions and priorities in the VA legislature... and that she WILL VOTE for those priorities. This is a clear quid pro quo on that level alone.
    At least we agree to the sleaziness of TMc

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/05/24/so-what-exactly-is-virginia-gov-terry-mcauliffe-being-investigated-for/

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/10/mcauliffe-aided-wife-of-fbi-official-handling-clinton-probe.html

    She uses 1 of your favorite words in that one.
    Yes... the shock and horror of a Governor working to get the legislature most likely to deliver his agenda is overwhelming. Whatever shall we do with this dirty Republic?
    I'm sure the FBI will sort it out.
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,597
    It seems strange to argue there is nothing in these emails and that they are doctored at the same time. If there were truly falsehoods and alterations here wouldn't we be seeing juicier tidbits emerge? If not why go through the trouble?
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    JimmyV said:

    It seems strange to argue there is nothing in these emails and that they are doctored at the same time. If there were truly falsehoods and alterations here wouldn't we be seeing juicier tidbits emerge? If not why go through the trouble?

    Picture a child reaching in his bowl of spaghetti clutching a handful and throwing it at the wall.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    tonifig8 said:

    JC29856 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    JC29856 said:
    Wait a minute, because I think I'm agreeing with you here. So let me get this straight. The Governor of Virginia's super PAC put $500k into the state Senate race of a Democratic running for a seat. No, never mind that it was third largest donation made by the superpac. I mean..what's next? Next you're going to tell me that this candidate supports Terry's positions and priorities in the VA legislature... and that she WILL VOTE for those priorities. This is a clear quid pro quo on that level alone.
    At least we agree to the sleaziness of TMc

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/05/24/so-what-exactly-is-virginia-gov-terry-mcauliffe-being-investigated-for/

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/10/mcauliffe-aided-wife-of-fbi-official-handling-clinton-probe.html

    She uses 1 of your favorite words in that one.
    What's one of his favorite words? Distort and distract? No wait that's the other guys fave.

    Matt the minute someone gives a negative review of Clinton, does that automatically discredit them from producing anything legitimate? Because your excuse was that said writer wrote a handful of anti-Clinton pieces , therefore what he's saying isn't legit?
    Fair question. My point is that this person has been writing these very pieces for ten months now and they are always distorted and leave out critical information while leaping to conclusions on others. Anyone that tries to leverage the Uranium One 'issue' loses credibility in my book. It's such a non-issue, particularly for Clinton and the State dept.

    Look at his freakin' homepage. What serious commentator goes this far?
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    I guess nobody likes multiple choice, how about jeopardy style in Alex Trebek voice, subject "Personal Profit" for $5,000

    Name this ex president that gladly accepted $500,000 for a Moscow speech from a Russian investment bank with links to the Kremlin that was promoting Uranium One stock?
  • Boxes&Books
    Boxes&Books USA Posts: 2,672
    mrussel1 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    JC29856 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    JC29856 said:
    Wait a minute, because I think I'm agreeing with you here. So let me get this straight. The Governor of Virginia's super PAC put $500k into the state Senate race of a Democratic running for a seat. No, never mind that it was third largest donation made by the superpac. I mean..what's next? Next you're going to tell me that this candidate supports Terry's positions and priorities in the VA legislature... and that she WILL VOTE for those priorities. This is a clear quid pro quo on that level alone.
    At least we agree to the sleaziness of TMc

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/05/24/so-what-exactly-is-virginia-gov-terry-mcauliffe-being-investigated-for/

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/10/mcauliffe-aided-wife-of-fbi-official-handling-clinton-probe.html

    She uses 1 of your favorite words in that one.
    What's one of his favorite words? Distort and distract? No wait that's the other guys fave.

    Matt the minute someone gives a negative review of Clinton, does that automatically discredit them from producing anything legitimate? Because your excuse was that said writer wrote a handful of anti-Clinton pieces , therefore what he's saying isn't legit?
    Fair question. My point is that this person has been writing these very pieces for ten months now and they are always distorted and leave out critical information while leaping to conclusions on others. Anyone that tries to leverage the Uranium One 'issue' loses credibility in my book. It's such a non-issue, particularly for Clinton and the State dept.

    Look at his freakin' homepage. What serious commentator goes this far?
    I was making the observation because you've discredited a lot of other post in the past with similar fashion. Most of what's out their is pro Clinton, at least in the mainstream of information.
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