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50 years elections have been rigged.

https://youtu.be/hDc8PVCvfKs

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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    I just saw dumbama say that it's not possible LOL !!!!!!

    Godfather.
  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Crickets.
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    As long as there has been an electoral college, the only votes that count in a "fair" US election is that of votes from the few swing states. And even then, the popular vote does not win. We have seen that in 2000. We have also seen the media already dictate that Hillary will be the winner. Weeks before the Election Day.

    Absolutely it's rigged. To not question our shitty electoral process and the voter suppression that was rampant during the primaries is obscene. And now on top of that, the fact that money can buy you an election. Voters unnecessary.
  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    It's rigged and these videos show not only collusion with the media but also superPACS which is illegal under campaign finance reform laws. This guy admits that Hillary also knows of the violence that is planted at Trump events and does nothing to stop it.

  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Bob Cramer has resigned.
  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    edited October 2016
    wife busted


    Post edited by unsung on
  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2016/10/18/undercover-video-democratic-operatives-griffin-tell-lead.cnn
  • Boxes&BooksBoxes&Books USA Posts: 2,672
    So is this stuff legit? I've been hearing a lot about it, but don't want to waste my time watching a video that's all BS. Is it worth the 15mins?
  • tbergstbergs Posts: 10,232
    tonifig8 said:

    So is this stuff legit? I've been hearing a lot about it, but don't want to waste my time watching a video that's all BS. Is it worth the 15mins?

    I found it worthwhile but it will depress and anger the hell out of you about how politics are operating because you know this happens on both sides of the major parties. It's crap and these people are despicable. Money influences all.

    This is at the forefront now but how many people will care 30 days from now when we all go back to our normal lives and try to move past this shit show? People choose to ignore stuff like this because it causes discomfort and interferes with our daily quest for blissful happiness.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Boxes&BooksBoxes&Books USA Posts: 2,672
    tbergs said:

    tonifig8 said:

    So is this stuff legit? I've been hearing a lot about it, but don't want to waste my time watching a video that's all BS. Is it worth the 15mins?

    I found it worthwhile but it will depress and anger the hell out of you about how politics are operating because you know this happens on both sides of the major parties. It's crap and these people are despicable. Money influences all.

    This is at the forefront now but how many people will care 30 days from now when we all go back to our normal lives and try to move past this shit show? People choose to ignore stuff like this because it causes discomfort and interferes with our daily quest for blissful happiness.
    I might just have to invest the time to watch.

    I haven't heard from germ on this post- he's the former diehard BernieBro gone number one clinton fanboy. I wonder if he's thinking of an excuse or contacting headquarters on how to respond to this one? Hopefully Clinton receives questions in advance tonight because she's going to need all the help she can get!

  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,998
    Godfather. said:

    I just saw dumbama say that it's not possible LOL !!!!!!

    Godfather.

    dumbama. classy.

    saying something is rigged is a far cry from acknowledging election reform is (badly) needed, which I think we can all agree on.
    "every society honours its live conformists and its dead troublemakers"




  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    edited October 2016
    HughFreakingDillon said:

    Godfather. said:

    I just saw dumbama say that it's not possible LOL !!!!!!

    Godfather.

    dumbama. classy.

    saying something is rigged is a far cry from acknowledging election reform is (badly) needed, which I think we can all agree on.
    well thank you ! I thought so myself.

    reform ? it's not the system, it's the people involved so how is Hillary even still in the race ?

    Godfather.

    Post edited by Godfather. on
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,998
    Godfather. said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    Godfather. said:

    I just saw dumbama say that it's not possible LOL !!!!!!

    Godfather.

    dumbama. classy.

    saying something is rigged is a far cry from acknowledging election reform is (badly) needed, which I think we can all agree on.
    well thank you ! I thought so myself.

    reform ? it's not the system, it's the people involved so how is Hillary even still in the race ?

    Godfather.

    please translate what you mean here.
    "every society honours its live conformists and its dead troublemakers"




  • what dreamswhat dreams Posts: 1,761
    Free said:

    As long as there has been an electoral college, the only votes that count in a "fair" US election is that of votes from the few swing states. And even then, the popular vote does not win. We have seen that in 2000. We have also seen the media already dictate that Hillary will be the winner. Weeks before the Election Day.

    Absolutely it's rigged. To not question our shitty electoral process and the voter suppression that was rampant during the primaries is obscene. And now on top of that, the fact that money can buy you an election. Voters unnecessary.

    There have only been four elections in our entire history as a nation where the candidate with the most popular votes lost the electoral college vote. The 2000 election was one of four elections since George Washington. That means about 95% of the time, the winner of the electoral college was also the winner of the popular vote. What is rigged about that?
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    what dreams said:

    Free said:

    As long as there has been an electoral college, the only votes that count in a "fair" US election is that of votes from the few swing states. And even then, the popular vote does not win. We have seen that in 2000. We have also seen the media already dictate that Hillary will be the winner. Weeks before the Election Day.

    Absolutely it's rigged. To not question our shitty electoral process and the voter suppression that was rampant during the primaries is obscene. And now on top of that, the fact that money can buy you an election. Voters unnecessary.

    There have only been four elections in our entire history as a nation where the candidate with the most popular votes lost the electoral college vote. The 2000 election was one of four elections since George Washington. That means about 95% of the time, the winner of the electoral college was also the winner of the popular vote. What is rigged about that?
    Oh so I guess that means that people will believe whatever they want to. Here's news for you: this election is rigged for Hillary, she and Trump are in cahoots to rig the election for her. It has been rigged for a long time. You can check the Podesta thread for facts.
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    we'll find out soon enough.

    Godfather.

  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Free said:

    what dreams said:

    Free said:

    As long as there has been an electoral college, the only votes that count in a "fair" US election is that of votes from the few swing states. And even then, the popular vote does not win. We have seen that in 2000. We have also seen the media already dictate that Hillary will be the winner. Weeks before the Election Day.

    Absolutely it's rigged. To not question our shitty electoral process and the voter suppression that was rampant during the primaries is obscene. And now on top of that, the fact that money can buy you an election. Voters unnecessary.

    There have only been four elections in our entire history as a nation where the candidate with the most popular votes lost the electoral college vote. The 2000 election was one of four elections since George Washington. That means about 95% of the time, the winner of the electoral college was also the winner of the popular vote. What is rigged about that?
    Oh so I guess that means that people will believe whatever they want to. Here's news for you: this election is rigged for Hillary, she and Trump are in cahoots to rig the election for her. It has been rigged for a long time. You can check the Podesta thread for facts.
    What you guys throw out as "facts" is pretty funny
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,576
    Free said:

    what dreams said:

    Free said:

    As long as there has been an electoral college, the only votes that count in a "fair" US election is that of votes from the few swing states. And even then, the popular vote does not win. We have seen that in 2000. We have also seen the media already dictate that Hillary will be the winner. Weeks before the Election Day.

    Absolutely it's rigged. To not question our shitty electoral process and the voter suppression that was rampant during the primaries is obscene. And now on top of that, the fact that money can buy you an election. Voters unnecessary.

    There have only been four elections in our entire history as a nation where the candidate with the most popular votes lost the electoral college vote. The 2000 election was one of four elections since George Washington. That means about 95% of the time, the winner of the electoral college was also the winner of the popular vote. What is rigged about that?
    Oh so I guess that means that people will believe whatever they want to. Here's news for you: this election is rigged for Hillary, she and Trump are in cahoots to rig the election for her. It has been rigged for a long time. You can check the Podesta thread for facts.
    Clinton and Trump are working this together? Damn dude...
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,397
    unsung said:

    It's rigged and these videos show not only collusion with the media but also superPACS which is illegal under campaign finance reform laws. This guy admits that Hillary also knows of the violence that is planted at Trump events and does nothing to stop it.

    Looks like you'll believe just about anything that reinforces your belief system.
  • Boxes&BooksBoxes&Books USA Posts: 2,672
    Go Beavers said:

    unsung said:

    It's rigged and these videos show not only collusion with the media but also superPACS which is illegal under campaign finance reform laws. This guy admits that Hillary also knows of the violence that is planted at Trump events and does nothing to stop it.

    Looks like you'll believe just about anything that reinforces your belief system.
    So are these not facts? Were some of these people not mentioned to Hillary at the debate? Did she address them? Looks like your delusional and blindly support a crook politician.
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,998
    tonifig8 said:

    Go Beavers said:

    unsung said:

    It's rigged and these videos show not only collusion with the media but also superPACS which is illegal under campaign finance reform laws. This guy admits that Hillary also knows of the violence that is planted at Trump events and does nothing to stop it.

    Looks like you'll believe just about anything that reinforces your belief system.
    So are these not facts? Were some of these people not mentioned to Hillary at the debate? Did she address them? Looks like your delusional and blindly support a crook politician.
    can we stop with the weak "kool aid" and "blindly support" arguments? they are insulting to us all.

    people support her because she's not trump. is she a liar? probably. is she crooked? maybe. she won't be the first. but there's a lot less risk in that than trump and his nuke trigger finger.
    "every society honours its live conformists and its dead troublemakers"




  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,397
    tonifig8 said:

    Go Beavers said:

    unsung said:

    It's rigged and these videos show not only collusion with the media but also superPACS which is illegal under campaign finance reform laws. This guy admits that Hillary also knows of the violence that is planted at Trump events and does nothing to stop it.

    Looks like you'll believe just about anything that reinforces your belief system.
    So are these not facts? Were some of these people not mentioned to Hillary at the debate? Did she address them? Looks like your delusional and blindly support a crook politician.
    Is it a fact that Hillary knew of planted violence at Trump rallies?
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,998
    Go Beavers said:

    tonifig8 said:

    Go Beavers said:

    unsung said:

    It's rigged and these videos show not only collusion with the media but also superPACS which is illegal under campaign finance reform laws. This guy admits that Hillary also knows of the violence that is planted at Trump events and does nothing to stop it.

    Looks like you'll believe just about anything that reinforces your belief system.
    So are these not facts? Were some of these people not mentioned to Hillary at the debate? Did she address them? Looks like your delusional and blindly support a crook politician.
    Is it a fact that Hillary knew of planted violence at Trump rallies?
    I was quite surprised she didn't dispute it. she frowned, but she didn't say anything to retort. that was a little disappointing. that told me it was true.
    "every society honours its live conformists and its dead troublemakers"




  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    The sanctity of elections!

    Reminder: the results of last 2 closest presidential elections were called into question, FL 2000 Ohio 2004. I got the impression last night some may have forgotten that. Not to mention there have been hundreds of result inquires at the state and local levels since 2000.

  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    HughFreakingDillon said:

    Go Beavers said:

    tonifig8 said:

    Go Beavers said:

    unsung said:

    It's rigged and these videos show not only collusion with the media but also superPACS which is illegal under campaign finance reform laws. This guy admits that Hillary also knows of the violence that is planted at Trump events and does nothing to stop it.

    Looks like you'll believe just about anything that reinforces your belief system.
    So are these not facts? Were some of these people not mentioned to Hillary at the debate? Did she address them? Looks like your delusional and blindly support a crook politician.
    Is it a fact that Hillary knew of planted violence at Trump rallies?
    I was quite surprised she didn't dispute it. she frowned, but she didn't say anything to retort. that was a little disappointing. that told me it was true.
    Yeah, I agree. While it isn't definitive, I would have thought she'd at a minimum feigned righteous indignation. Instead she seemed to be perturbed that it was brought up, but not willing to defend or deny. I don't know whether she knew or not, but it is a dirty game and it wouldn't surprise me if she did. I would have felt a little better about it if she at least acted insulted by the accusation.
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,397
    jeffbr said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    Go Beavers said:

    tonifig8 said:

    Go Beavers said:

    unsung said:

    It's rigged and these videos show not only collusion with the media but also superPACS which is illegal under campaign finance reform laws. This guy admits that Hillary also knows of the violence that is planted at Trump events and does nothing to stop it.

    Looks like you'll believe just about anything that reinforces your belief system.
    So are these not facts? Were some of these people not mentioned to Hillary at the debate? Did she address them? Looks like your delusional and blindly support a crook politician.
    Is it a fact that Hillary knew of planted violence at Trump rallies?
    I was quite surprised she didn't dispute it. she frowned, but she didn't say anything to retort. that was a little disappointing. that told me it was true.
    Yeah, I agree. While it isn't definitive, I would have thought she'd at a minimum feigned righteous indignation. Instead she seemed to be perturbed that it was brought up, but not willing to defend or deny. I don't know whether she knew or not, but it is a dirty game and it wouldn't surprise me if she did. I would have felt a little better about it if she at least acted insulted by the accusation.
    My guess is her plan was to not appear defensive, since she let other things slide, too. Coming across defensive would be used against her and Trump and co. would say it's evidence of guilt. She doesn't need to pick up undecides at this point, so she just needed to appear confident and capable and sit back and watch the man-child drown in his vile.
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,998
    Go Beavers said:

    jeffbr said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    Go Beavers said:

    tonifig8 said:

    Go Beavers said:

    unsung said:

    It's rigged and these videos show not only collusion with the media but also superPACS which is illegal under campaign finance reform laws. This guy admits that Hillary also knows of the violence that is planted at Trump events and does nothing to stop it.

    Looks like you'll believe just about anything that reinforces your belief system.
    So are these not facts? Were some of these people not mentioned to Hillary at the debate? Did she address them? Looks like your delusional and blindly support a crook politician.
    Is it a fact that Hillary knew of planted violence at Trump rallies?
    I was quite surprised she didn't dispute it. she frowned, but she didn't say anything to retort. that was a little disappointing. that told me it was true.
    Yeah, I agree. While it isn't definitive, I would have thought she'd at a minimum feigned righteous indignation. Instead she seemed to be perturbed that it was brought up, but not willing to defend or deny. I don't know whether she knew or not, but it is a dirty game and it wouldn't surprise me if she did. I would have felt a little better about it if she at least acted insulted by the accusation.
    My guess is her plan was to not appear defensive, since she let other things slide, too. Coming across defensive would be used against her and Trump and co. would say it's evidence of guilt. She doesn't need to pick up undecides at this point, so she just needed to appear confident and capable and sit back and watch the man-child drown in his vile.
    good point.
    "every society honours its live conformists and its dead troublemakers"




  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    Go Beavers said:

    jeffbr said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    Go Beavers said:

    tonifig8 said:

    Go Beavers said:

    unsung said:

    It's rigged and these videos show not only collusion with the media but also superPACS which is illegal under campaign finance reform laws. This guy admits that Hillary also knows of the violence that is planted at Trump events and does nothing to stop it.

    Looks like you'll believe just about anything that reinforces your belief system.
    So are these not facts? Were some of these people not mentioned to Hillary at the debate? Did she address them? Looks like your delusional and blindly support a crook politician.
    Is it a fact that Hillary knew of planted violence at Trump rallies?
    I was quite surprised she didn't dispute it. she frowned, but she didn't say anything to retort. that was a little disappointing. that told me it was true.
    Yeah, I agree. While it isn't definitive, I would have thought she'd at a minimum feigned righteous indignation. Instead she seemed to be perturbed that it was brought up, but not willing to defend or deny. I don't know whether she knew or not, but it is a dirty game and it wouldn't surprise me if she did. I would have felt a little better about it if she at least acted insulted by the accusation.
    My guess is her plan was to not appear defensive, since she let other things slide, too. Coming across defensive would be used against her and Trump and co. would say it's evidence of guilt. She doesn't need to pick up undecides at this point, so she just needed to appear confident and capable and sit back and watch the man-child drown in his vile.
    All part of the plan.
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