50 years

unsung

50 years elections have been rigged.

https://youtu.be/hDc8PVCvfKs

Godfather.

I just saw dumbama say that it's not possible LOL !!!!!!

Godfather.

unsung

Crickets.

Free

As long as there has been an electoral college, the only votes that count in a "fair" US election is that of votes from the few swing states. And even then, the popular vote does not win. We have seen that in 2000. We have also seen the media already dictate that Hillary will be the winner. Weeks before the Election Day.

Absolutely it's rigged. To not question our shitty electoral process and the voter suppression that was rampant during the primaries is obscene. And now on top of that, the fact that money can buy you an election. Voters unnecessary.

unsung

It's rigged and these videos show not only collusion with the media but also superPACS which is illegal under campaign finance reform laws. This guy admits that Hillary also knows of the violence that is planted at Trump events and does nothing to stop it.

unsung

Bob Cramer has resigned.

unsung

wife busted

unsung

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2016/10/18/undercover-video-democratic-operatives-griffin-tell-lead.cnn

Boxes&Books

So is this stuff legit? I've been hearing a lot about it, but don't want to waste my time watching a video that's all BS. Is it worth the 15mins?

tbergs

tonifig8 said:

So is this stuff legit? I've been hearing a lot about it, but don't want to waste my time watching a video that's all BS. Is it worth the 15mins?

I found it worthwhile but it will depress and anger the hell out of you about how politics are operating because you know this happens on both sides of the major parties. It's crap and these people are despicable. Money influences all.

This is at the forefront now but how many people will care 30 days from now when we all go back to our normal lives and try to move past this shit show? People choose to ignore stuff like this because it causes discomfort and interferes with our daily quest for blissful happiness.

Boxes&Books

tbergs said:

tonifig8 said:

So is this stuff legit? I've been hearing a lot about it, but don't want to waste my time watching a video that's all BS. Is it worth the 15mins?

I found it worthwhile but it will depress and anger the hell out of you about how politics are operating because you know this happens on both sides of the major parties. It's crap and these people are despicable. Money influences all.

This is at the forefront now but how many people will care 30 days from now when we all go back to our normal lives and try to move past this shit show? People choose to ignore stuff like this because it causes discomfort and interferes with our daily quest for blissful happiness.

I might just have to invest the time to watch.

I haven't heard from germ on this post- he's the former diehard BernieBro gone number one clinton fanboy. I wonder if he's thinking of an excuse or contacting headquarters on how to respond to this one? Hopefully Clinton receives questions in advance tonight because she's going to need all the help she can get!

HughFreakingDillon

Godfather. said:

I just saw dumbama say that it's not possible LOL !!!!!!

Godfather.

dumbama. classy.

saying something is rigged is a far cry from acknowledging election reform is (badly) needed, which I think we can all agree on.

Godfather.

HughFreakingDillon said:

Godfather. said:

I just saw dumbama say that it's not possible LOL !!!!!!

Godfather.

dumbama. classy.

saying something is rigged is a far cry from acknowledging election reform is (badly) needed, which I think we can all agree on.

well thank you ! I thought so myself.

reform ? it's not the system, it's the people involved so how is Hillary even still in the race ?

Godfather.

HughFreakingDillon

Godfather. said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Godfather. said:

I just saw dumbama say that it's not possible LOL !!!!!!

Godfather.

dumbama. classy.

saying something is rigged is a far cry from acknowledging election reform is (badly) needed, which I think we can all agree on.

well thank you ! I thought so myself.

reform ? it's not the system, it's the people involved so how is Hillary even still in the race ?

Godfather.

please translate what you mean here.

what dreams

Free said:

As long as there has been an electoral college, the only votes that count in a "fair" US election is that of votes from the few swing states. And even then, the popular vote does not win. We have seen that in 2000. We have also seen the media already dictate that Hillary will be the winner. Weeks before the Election Day.

Absolutely it's rigged. To not question our shitty electoral process and the voter suppression that was rampant during the primaries is obscene. And now on top of that, the fact that money can buy you an election. Voters unnecessary.

There have only been four elections in our entire history as a nation where the candidate with the most popular votes lost the electoral college vote. The 2000 election was one of four elections since George Washington. That means about 95% of the time, the winner of the electoral college was also the winner of the popular vote. What is rigged about that?

Free

what dreams said:

Free said:

As long as there has been an electoral college, the only votes that count in a "fair" US election is that of votes from the few swing states. And even then, the popular vote does not win. We have seen that in 2000. We have also seen the media already dictate that Hillary will be the winner. Weeks before the Election Day.

Absolutely it's rigged. To not question our shitty electoral process and the voter suppression that was rampant during the primaries is obscene. And now on top of that, the fact that money can buy you an election. Voters unnecessary.

There have only been four elections in our entire history as a nation where the candidate with the most popular votes lost the electoral college vote. The 2000 election was one of four elections since George Washington. That means about 95% of the time, the winner of the electoral college was also the winner of the popular vote. What is rigged about that?

Oh so I guess that means that people will believe whatever they want to. Here's news for you: this election is rigged for Hillary, she and Trump are in cahoots to rig the election for her. It has been rigged for a long time. You can check the Podesta thread for facts.

Godfather.

we'll find out soon enough.

Godfather.

my2hands

Free said:

what dreams said:

Free said:

As long as there has been an electoral college, the only votes that count in a "fair" US election is that of votes from the few swing states. And even then, the popular vote does not win. We have seen that in 2000. We have also seen the media already dictate that Hillary will be the winner. Weeks before the Election Day.

Absolutely it's rigged. To not question our shitty electoral process and the voter suppression that was rampant during the primaries is obscene. And now on top of that, the fact that money can buy you an election. Voters unnecessary.

There have only been four elections in our entire history as a nation where the candidate with the most popular votes lost the electoral college vote. The 2000 election was one of four elections since George Washington. That means about 95% of the time, the winner of the electoral college was also the winner of the popular vote. What is rigged about that?

Oh so I guess that means that people will believe whatever they want to. Here's news for you: this election is rigged for Hillary, she and Trump are in cahoots to rig the election for her. It has been rigged for a long time. You can check the Podesta thread for facts.

What you guys throw out as "facts" is pretty funny

Gern Blansten

Free said:

what dreams said:

Free said:

As long as there has been an electoral college, the only votes that count in a "fair" US election is that of votes from the few swing states. And even then, the popular vote does not win. We have seen that in 2000. We have also seen the media already dictate that Hillary will be the winner. Weeks before the Election Day.

Absolutely it's rigged. To not question our shitty electoral process and the voter suppression that was rampant during the primaries is obscene. And now on top of that, the fact that money can buy you an election. Voters unnecessary.

There have only been four elections in our entire history as a nation where the candidate with the most popular votes lost the electoral college vote. The 2000 election was one of four elections since George Washington. That means about 95% of the time, the winner of the electoral college was also the winner of the popular vote. What is rigged about that?

Oh so I guess that means that people will believe whatever they want to. Here's news for you: this election is rigged for Hillary, she and Trump are in cahoots to rig the election for her. It has been rigged for a long time. You can check the Podesta thread for facts.

Clinton and Trump are working this together? Damn dude...

Go Beavers

unsung said:

It's rigged and these videos show not only collusion with the media but also superPACS which is illegal under campaign finance reform laws. This guy admits that Hillary also knows of the violence that is planted at Trump events and does nothing to stop it.

Looks like you'll believe just about anything that reinforces your belief system.

Boxes&Books

Go Beavers said:

unsung said:

It's rigged and these videos show not only collusion with the media but also superPACS which is illegal under campaign finance reform laws. This guy admits that Hillary also knows of the violence that is planted at Trump events and does nothing to stop it.

Looks like you'll believe just about anything that reinforces your belief system.

So are these not facts? Were some of these people not mentioned to Hillary at the debate? Did she address them? Looks like your delusional and blindly support a crook politician.

HughFreakingDillon

tonifig8 said:

Go Beavers said:

unsung said:

It's rigged and these videos show not only collusion with the media but also superPACS which is illegal under campaign finance reform laws. This guy admits that Hillary also knows of the violence that is planted at Trump events and does nothing to stop it.

Looks like you'll believe just about anything that reinforces your belief system.

So are these not facts? Were some of these people not mentioned to Hillary at the debate? Did she address them? Looks like your delusional and blindly support a crook politician.

can we stop with the weak "kool aid" and "blindly support" arguments? they are insulting to us all.

people support her because she's not trump. is she a liar? probably. is she crooked? maybe. she won't be the first. but there's a lot less risk in that than trump and his nuke trigger finger.

Go Beavers

tonifig8 said:

Go Beavers said:

unsung said:

It's rigged and these videos show not only collusion with the media but also superPACS which is illegal under campaign finance reform laws. This guy admits that Hillary also knows of the violence that is planted at Trump events and does nothing to stop it.

Looks like you'll believe just about anything that reinforces your belief system.

So are these not facts? Were some of these people not mentioned to Hillary at the debate? Did she address them? Looks like your delusional and blindly support a crook politician.

Is it a fact that Hillary knew of planted violence at Trump rallies?

HughFreakingDillon

Go Beavers said:

tonifig8 said:

Go Beavers said:

unsung said:

It's rigged and these videos show not only collusion with the media but also superPACS which is illegal under campaign finance reform laws. This guy admits that Hillary also knows of the violence that is planted at Trump events and does nothing to stop it.

Looks like you'll believe just about anything that reinforces your belief system.

So are these not facts? Were some of these people not mentioned to Hillary at the debate? Did she address them? Looks like your delusional and blindly support a crook politician.

Is it a fact that Hillary knew of planted violence at Trump rallies?

I was quite surprised she didn't dispute it. she frowned, but she didn't say anything to retort. that was a little disappointing. that told me it was true.

JC29856

The sanctity of elections!

Reminder: the results of last 2 closest presidential elections were called into question, FL 2000 Ohio 2004. I got the impression last night some may have forgotten that. Not to mention there have been hundreds of result inquires at the state and local levels since 2000.

jeffbr

HughFreakingDillon said:

Go Beavers said:

tonifig8 said:

Go Beavers said:

unsung said:

It's rigged and these videos show not only collusion with the media but also superPACS which is illegal under campaign finance reform laws. This guy admits that Hillary also knows of the violence that is planted at Trump events and does nothing to stop it.

Looks like you'll believe just about anything that reinforces your belief system.

So are these not facts? Were some of these people not mentioned to Hillary at the debate? Did she address them? Looks like your delusional and blindly support a crook politician.

Is it a fact that Hillary knew of planted violence at Trump rallies?

I was quite surprised she didn't dispute it. she frowned, but she didn't say anything to retort. that was a little disappointing. that told me it was true.

Yeah, I agree. While it isn't definitive, I would have thought she'd at a minimum feigned righteous indignation. Instead she seemed to be perturbed that it was brought up, but not willing to defend or deny. I don't know whether she knew or not, but it is a dirty game and it wouldn't surprise me if she did. I would have felt a little better about it if she at least acted insulted by the accusation.

Go Beavers

jeffbr said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Go Beavers said:

tonifig8 said:

Go Beavers said:

unsung said:

It's rigged and these videos show not only collusion with the media but also superPACS which is illegal under campaign finance reform laws. This guy admits that Hillary also knows of the violence that is planted at Trump events and does nothing to stop it.

Looks like you'll believe just about anything that reinforces your belief system.

So are these not facts? Were some of these people not mentioned to Hillary at the debate? Did she address them? Looks like your delusional and blindly support a crook politician.

Is it a fact that Hillary knew of planted violence at Trump rallies?

I was quite surprised she didn't dispute it. she frowned, but she didn't say anything to retort. that was a little disappointing. that told me it was true.

Yeah, I agree. While it isn't definitive, I would have thought she'd at a minimum feigned righteous indignation. Instead she seemed to be perturbed that it was brought up, but not willing to defend or deny. I don't know whether she knew or not, but it is a dirty game and it wouldn't surprise me if she did. I would have felt a little better about it if she at least acted insulted by the accusation.

My guess is her plan was to not appear defensive, since she let other things slide, too. Coming across defensive would be used against her and Trump and co. would say it's evidence of guilt. She doesn't need to pick up undecides at this point, so she just needed to appear confident and capable and sit back and watch the man-child drown in his vile.

HughFreakingDillon

Go Beavers said:

jeffbr said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Go Beavers said:

tonifig8 said:

Go Beavers said:

unsung said:

It's rigged and these videos show not only collusion with the media but also superPACS which is illegal under campaign finance reform laws. This guy admits that Hillary also knows of the violence that is planted at Trump events and does nothing to stop it.

Looks like you'll believe just about anything that reinforces your belief system.

So are these not facts? Were some of these people not mentioned to Hillary at the debate? Did she address them? Looks like your delusional and blindly support a crook politician.

Is it a fact that Hillary knew of planted violence at Trump rallies?

I was quite surprised she didn't dispute it. she frowned, but she didn't say anything to retort. that was a little disappointing. that told me it was true.

Yeah, I agree. While it isn't definitive, I would have thought she'd at a minimum feigned righteous indignation. Instead she seemed to be perturbed that it was brought up, but not willing to defend or deny. I don't know whether she knew or not, but it is a dirty game and it wouldn't surprise me if she did. I would have felt a little better about it if she at least acted insulted by the accusation.

My guess is her plan was to not appear defensive, since she let other things slide, too. Coming across defensive would be used against her and Trump and co. would say it's evidence of guilt. She doesn't need to pick up undecides at this point, so she just needed to appear confident and capable and sit back and watch the man-child drown in his vile.

good point.

Free

Go Beavers said:

jeffbr said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Go Beavers said:

tonifig8 said:

Go Beavers said:

unsung said:

It's rigged and these videos show not only collusion with the media but also superPACS which is illegal under campaign finance reform laws. This guy admits that Hillary also knows of the violence that is planted at Trump events and does nothing to stop it.

Looks like you'll believe just about anything that reinforces your belief system.

So are these not facts? Were some of these people not mentioned to Hillary at the debate? Did she address them? Looks like your delusional and blindly support a crook politician.

Is it a fact that Hillary knew of planted violence at Trump rallies?

I was quite surprised she didn't dispute it. she frowned, but she didn't say anything to retort. that was a little disappointing. that told me it was true.

Yeah, I agree. While it isn't definitive, I would have thought she'd at a minimum feigned righteous indignation. Instead she seemed to be perturbed that it was brought up, but not willing to defend or deny. I don't know whether she knew or not, but it is a dirty game and it wouldn't surprise me if she did. I would have felt a little better about it if she at least acted insulted by the accusation.

My guess is her plan was to not appear defensive, since she let other things slide, too. Coming across defensive would be used against her and Trump and co. would say it's evidence of guilt. She doesn't need to pick up undecides at this point, so she just needed to appear confident and capable and sit back and watch the man-child drown in his vile.

All part of the plan.