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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,148

    JimmyV said:

    Anyone still hanging onto voter fraud is just plain ignorant. There isn't enough fraud to make a difference.

    couldn't it have been a deciding factor in florida in 2000?
    Theoretically yes but in that case the fraud wasn't so much ineligible voters voting as it was a breakdown in counting the legitimate votes that were cast.
    yes, but if there were more than 600 illegal voters that voted for bush, that would have changed the presidency. not like illegals typically would vote red, but just saying.
    Yeah it's certainly possible. But there is just no evidence of fraud on that scale.
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504

    Anyone still hanging onto voter fraud is just plain ignorant. There isn't enough fraud to make a difference.

    and the leftist has spoken !

    Godfather.
    yeah whatever...the real fraud is being carried out by the state republicans trying to suppress the votes of minorities. You can't argue against that one.
    Illegal minorities ? I haven't heard any other info suppressing votes.

    Godfather.

  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,024

    Anyone still hanging onto voter fraud is just plain ignorant. There isn't enough fraud to make a difference.

    and the leftist has spoken !

    Godfather.
    yeah whatever...the real fraud is being carried out by the state republicans trying to suppress the votes of minorities. You can't argue against that one.
    Illegal minorities ? I haven't heard any other info suppressing votes.

    Godfather.

    “Of course it’s political. Why else would you do it?” he said, explaining that Republicans, like any political party, want to protect their majority. While GOP lawmakers might have passed the law to suppress some voters, Wrenn said, that does not mean it was racist.
    “Look, if African Americans voted overwhelmingly Republican, they would have kept early voting right where it was,” Wrenn said. “It wasn’t about discriminating against African Americans. They just ended up in the middle of it because they vote Democrat.”
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
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    Anyone still hanging onto voter fraud is just plain ignorant. There isn't enough fraud to make a difference.

    and the leftist has spoken !

    Godfather.
    yeah whatever...the real fraud is being carried out by the state republicans trying to suppress the votes of minorities. You can't argue against that one.
    Illegal minorities ? I haven't heard any other info suppressing votes.

    Godfather.

    The Brennan Center for Justice found that of the 11 states with the highest African American turnout in 2008, seven passed laws making it harder to vote. Of the 12 states with the largest Hispanic population growth in the 2010 Census, nine have new restrictions in place. And of the 15 states that used to be monitored closely under the Voting Rights Act because of a history of racial discrimination in elections, nine passed new restrictions.

    ....I know, I know....pointing out all these fancy facts and studies don't do any good if you don't have the critical thinking skills to digest them...
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    sooooooo every American citizen still has the right to vote ? I have no doubt that left and right have shitty games they play but serious question here, what laws were passed to make it harder to vote ? picture I.D ?

    Godfather.

  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    CM189191 said:

    .

    Anyone still hanging onto voter fraud is just plain ignorant. There isn't enough fraud to make a difference.

    and the leftist has spoken !

    Godfather.
    yeah whatever...the real fraud is being carried out by the state republicans trying to suppress the votes of minorities. You can't argue against that one.
    Illegal minorities ? I haven't heard any other info suppressing votes.

    Godfather.

    The Brennan Center for Justice found that of the 11 states with the highest African American turnout in 2008, seven passed laws making it harder to vote. Of the 12 states with the largest Hispanic population growth in the 2010 Census, nine have new restrictions in place. And of the 15 states that used to be monitored closely under the Voting Rights Act because of a history of racial discrimination in elections, nine passed new restrictions.

    ....I know, I know....pointing out all these fancy facts and studies don't do any good if you don't have the critical thinking skills to digest them...
    I'll bet you're just a daisy of a person, you must have a lot of friends.......

    Godfather.



  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856

    CM189191 said:

    .

    Anyone still hanging onto voter fraud is just plain ignorant. There isn't enough fraud to make a difference.

    and the leftist has spoken !

    Godfather.
    yeah whatever...the real fraud is being carried out by the state republicans trying to suppress the votes of minorities. You can't argue against that one.
    Illegal minorities ? I haven't heard any other info suppressing votes.

    Godfather.

    The Brennan Center for Justice found that of the 11 states with the highest African American turnout in 2008, seven passed laws making it harder to vote. Of the 12 states with the largest Hispanic population growth in the 2010 Census, nine have new restrictions in place. And of the 15 states that used to be monitored closely under the Voting Rights Act because of a history of racial discrimination in elections, nine passed new restrictions.

    ....I know, I know....pointing out all these fancy facts and studies don't do any good if you don't have the critical thinking skills to digest them...
    I'll bet you're just a daisy of a person, you must have a lot of friends.......

    Godfather.



    So you believe that considering and discussing facts about potentially discriminatory laws would make one less appealing to others? That explains so much.
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,396

    CM189191 said:

    .

    Anyone still hanging onto voter fraud is just plain ignorant. There isn't enough fraud to make a difference.

    and the leftist has spoken !

    Godfather.
    yeah whatever...the real fraud is being carried out by the state republicans trying to suppress the votes of minorities. You can't argue against that one.
    Illegal minorities ? I haven't heard any other info suppressing votes.

    Godfather.

    The Brennan Center for Justice found that of the 11 states with the highest African American turnout in 2008, seven passed laws making it harder to vote. Of the 12 states with the largest Hispanic population growth in the 2010 Census, nine have new restrictions in place. And of the 15 states that used to be monitored closely under the Voting Rights Act because of a history of racial discrimination in elections, nine passed new restrictions.

    ....I know, I know....pointing out all these fancy facts and studies don't do any good if you don't have the critical thinking skills to digest them...
    I'll bet you're just a daisy of a person, you must have a lot of friends.......

    Godfather.



    So you believe that considering and discussing facts about potentially discriminatory laws would make one less appealing to others? That explains so much.
    Just to be clear....coming on here and making a cogent argument backed up by reliable and verifiable facts and evidence causes a lot of confusion and frustration among some on here.
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504

    CM189191 said:

    .

    Anyone still hanging onto voter fraud is just plain ignorant. There isn't enough fraud to make a difference.

    and the leftist has spoken !

    Godfather.
    yeah whatever...the real fraud is being carried out by the state republicans trying to suppress the votes of minorities. You can't argue against that one.
    Illegal minorities ? I haven't heard any other info suppressing votes.

    Godfather.

    The Brennan Center for Justice found that of the 11 states with the highest African American turnout in 2008, seven passed laws making it harder to vote. Of the 12 states with the largest Hispanic population growth in the 2010 Census, nine have new restrictions in place. And of the 15 states that used to be monitored closely under the Voting Rights Act because of a history of racial discrimination in elections, nine passed new restrictions.

    ....I know, I know....pointing out all these fancy facts and studies don't do any good if you don't have the critical thinking skills to digest them...
    I'll bet you're just a daisy of a person, you must have a lot of friends.......

    Godfather.



    So you believe that considering and discussing facts about potentially discriminatory laws would make one less appealing to others? That explains so much.
    Just to be clear....coming on here and making a cogent argument backed up by reliable and verifiable facts and evidence causes a lot of confusion and frustration among some on here.

    where is your safe place ?

    Godfather.

  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856

    CM189191 said:

    .

    Anyone still hanging onto voter fraud is just plain ignorant. There isn't enough fraud to make a difference.

    and the leftist has spoken !

    Godfather.
    yeah whatever...the real fraud is being carried out by the state republicans trying to suppress the votes of minorities. You can't argue against that one.
    Illegal minorities ? I haven't heard any other info suppressing votes.

    Godfather.

    The Brennan Center for Justice found that of the 11 states with the highest African American turnout in 2008, seven passed laws making it harder to vote. Of the 12 states with the largest Hispanic population growth in the 2010 Census, nine have new restrictions in place. And of the 15 states that used to be monitored closely under the Voting Rights Act because of a history of racial discrimination in elections, nine passed new restrictions.

    ....I know, I know....pointing out all these fancy facts and studies don't do any good if you don't have the critical thinking skills to digest them...
    I'll bet you're just a daisy of a person, you must have a lot of friends.......

    Godfather.



    So you believe that considering and discussing facts about potentially discriminatory laws would make one less appealing to others? That explains so much.
    Just to be clear....coming on here and making a cogent argument backed up by reliable and verifiable facts and evidence causes a lot of confusion and frustration among some on here.

    where is your safe place ?

    Godfather.

    Right here.

    Where's yours?
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504

    CM189191 said:

    .

    Anyone still hanging onto voter fraud is just plain ignorant. There isn't enough fraud to make a difference.

    and the leftist has spoken !

    Godfather.
    yeah whatever...the real fraud is being carried out by the state republicans trying to suppress the votes of minorities. You can't argue against that one.
    Illegal minorities ? I haven't heard any other info suppressing votes.

    Godfather.

    The Brennan Center for Justice found that of the 11 states with the highest African American turnout in 2008, seven passed laws making it harder to vote. Of the 12 states with the largest Hispanic population growth in the 2010 Census, nine have new restrictions in place. And of the 15 states that used to be monitored closely under the Voting Rights Act because of a history of racial discrimination in elections, nine passed new restrictions.

    ....I know, I know....pointing out all these fancy facts and studies don't do any good if you don't have the critical thinking skills to digest them...
    I'll bet you're just a daisy of a person, you must have a lot of friends.......

    Godfather.



    So you believe that considering and discussing facts about potentially discriminatory laws would make one less appealing to others? That explains so much.
    Just to be clear....coming on here and making a cogent argument backed up by reliable and verifiable facts and evidence causes a lot of confusion and frustration among some on here.

    where is your safe place ?

    Godfather.

    Right here.

    Where's yours?
    I don't need one but I'm glad you found yours.

    Godfather.

  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,024
    This whole safe place thing is becoming a really stupid cliche among these Trump folks...
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Hillary’s friendship as First Lady with former mentor Jean Houston ended after Bob Woodward revealed in a 1996 book that Houston helped Clinton hold imaginary conversations with her hero Eleanor Roosevelt. One of the conversations was taped and her critics called it “Wackygate.”

    you can find the darndist things on the interweb.

    Godfather.
  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856

    CM189191 said:

    .

    Anyone still hanging onto voter fraud is just plain ignorant. There isn't enough fraud to make a difference.

    and the leftist has spoken !

    Godfather.
    yeah whatever...the real fraud is being carried out by the state republicans trying to suppress the votes of minorities. You can't argue against that one.
    Illegal minorities ? I haven't heard any other info suppressing votes.

    Godfather.

    The Brennan Center for Justice found that of the 11 states with the highest African American turnout in 2008, seven passed laws making it harder to vote. Of the 12 states with the largest Hispanic population growth in the 2010 Census, nine have new restrictions in place. And of the 15 states that used to be monitored closely under the Voting Rights Act because of a history of racial discrimination in elections, nine passed new restrictions.

    ....I know, I know....pointing out all these fancy facts and studies don't do any good if you don't have the critical thinking skills to digest them...
    I'll bet you're just a daisy of a person, you must have a lot of friends.......

    Godfather.



    So you believe that considering and discussing facts about potentially discriminatory laws would make one less appealing to others? That explains so much.
    Just to be clear....coming on here and making a cogent argument backed up by reliable and verifiable facts and evidence causes a lot of confusion and frustration among some on here.

    where is your safe place ?

    Godfather.

    Right here.

    Where's yours?
    I don't need one but I'm glad you found yours.

    Godfather.

    Ooooh, Godfather, livin' on the edge. Keyboard warrior, don't need to stinkin' safe places.

    Which is ridiculous, of course. All humans have a need for at least a safe base from which to go forth into the world, or to come back to. Remember all those refugees that you really don't want to come to the USA? You don't want them there because you don't feel safe with them there. And they want to come to the US because they want to escape war or oppression and find a place where they and their families can be safe.

    #backtotediousconservativememes
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
    When is the final debate?
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
    Smellyman said:
    I m sure that whole spectacle took way more energy and effort than merely answering the question. Thanks
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    mcgruff10 said:

    Smellyman said:
    I m sure that whole spectacle took way more energy and effort than merely answering the question. Thanks
    Yup. I am pooped
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504

    CM189191 said:

    .

    Anyone still hanging onto voter fraud is just plain ignorant. There isn't enough fraud to make a difference.

    and the leftist has spoken !

    Godfather.
    yeah whatever...the real fraud is being carried out by the state republicans trying to suppress the votes of minorities. You can't argue against that one.
    Illegal minorities ? I haven't heard any other info suppressing votes.

    Godfather.

    The Brennan Center for Justice found that of the 11 states with the highest African American turnout in 2008, seven passed laws making it harder to vote. Of the 12 states with the largest Hispanic population growth in the 2010 Census, nine have new restrictions in place. And of the 15 states that used to be monitored closely under the Voting Rights Act because of a history of racial discrimination in elections, nine passed new restrictions.

    ....I know, I know....pointing out all these fancy facts and studies don't do any good if you don't have the critical thinking skills to digest them...
    I'll bet you're just a daisy of a person, you must have a lot of friends.......

    Godfather.



    So you believe that considering and discussing facts about potentially discriminatory laws would make one less appealing to others? That explains so much.
    Just to be clear....coming on here and making a cogent argument backed up by reliable and verifiable facts and evidence causes a lot of confusion and frustration among some on here.

    where is your safe place ?

    Godfather.

    Right here.

    Where's yours?
    I don't need one but I'm glad you found yours.

    Godfather.

    Ooooh, Godfather, livin' on the edge. Keyboard warrior, don't need to stinkin' safe places.

    Which is ridiculous, of course. All humans have a need for at least a safe base from which to go forth into the world, or to come back to. Remember all those refugees that you really don't want to come to the USA? You don't want them there because you don't feel safe with them there. And they want to come to the US because they want to escape war or oppression and find a place where they and their families can be safe.

    #backtotediousconservativememes
    I'm just having fun here....all the back n forth here is better than the whole race itself, If I was to spend all my time on a right wing
    forum agreeing with all the negative comments and info it would just be boring and when the race is over we can go back to other topics
    and besides we couldn't dream up a more entertaining race to talk about.

    Godfather.