police kill unarmed black man

pjalive21 said:

also for the record white guy gets shot at and 6 year old autistic kids get killed and ZERO!!!!!!!! talk or discussion about it

"police kill unarmed white guy and murder his child"....nah doesn't fit the narrative

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/autistic-6-year-old-shot-killed-during-police-pursuit-in-louisiana-report-says/

pjalive21 said:

also for the record white guy gets shot at and 6 year old autistic kids get killed and ZERO!!!!!!!! talk or discussion about it

"police kill unarmed white guy and murder his child"....nah doesn't fit the narrative

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/autistic-6-year-old-shot-killed-during-police-pursuit-in-louisiana-report-says/

I remember that story. Forgotten all about it because it was in the news for about 2 minutes, then never heard of it again. If I didn't watch the morning news that one morning while I was getting ready for work, I don't think I ever would have heard about it. But I have to agree, if they were a different color it would still be in the news a year later. White people getting shot by police, not a big story, no one is going to protest and riot over it, so lets move on.

KC138045 said:

mace1229 said:

pjalive21 said:

also for the record white guy gets shot at and 6 year old autistic kids get killed and ZERO!!!!!!!! talk or discussion about it

"police kill unarmed white guy and murder his child"....nah doesn't fit the narrative

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/autistic-6-year-old-shot-killed-during-police-pursuit-in-louisiana-report-says/

pjalive21 said:

also for the record white guy gets shot at and 6 year old autistic kids get killed and ZERO!!!!!!!! talk or discussion about it

"police kill unarmed white guy and murder his child"....nah doesn't fit the narrative

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/autistic-6-year-old-shot-killed-during-police-pursuit-in-louisiana-report-says/

I remember that story. Forgotten all about it because it was in the news for about 2 minutes, then never heard of it again. If I didn't watch the morning news that one morning while I was getting ready for work, I don't think I ever would have heard about it. But I have to agree, if they were a different color it would still be in the news a year later. White people getting shot by police, not a big story, no one is going to protest and riot over it, so lets move on.

I forget where I saw the story(I'll have to try and find it) but the same day the guy was shot in NC 5 white people were killed by the police. No mention at all my main stream media.

I saw it on mainstream media when it happened. It even made it to the 6 o'clock national news in Canada. But then it disappeared. No follow up on what happened to the cops or anything like that.

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

rgambs said:

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rgambs said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

CM189191 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

CM189191 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Cop exercising way too much patience with some idiot and pays the price:

If my son ever made the brutal error of becoming a cop... I'd be expecting him to shoot well ahead of the point where the idiot got his rifle out of the truck.

Of course, in that event, you'd get fools on here calling him scaredy cop... and other fools spouting off about abuse... and others making excuses for the idiot.

Way to trot out a video that's nearly 20 years old.
If that guy were black in 2016, he would have been shot as soon as he exited the vehicle.
Vietnam Vet, can we jump to the conclusion that he may have had some mental health problems that should have been addressed? Perhaps he should not have been allowed to possess a gun in the first place.

Or maybe he was just watering the Tree of Liberty.

How pathetic.

You need a 'fresh' video to justify police exercising forceful tactics to ensure they aren't killed while trying to keep your house safe?

It's a mountain of such incidents that drives current police policy.

You didn't present a mountain of evidence. You presented an anecdote. From 2 decades ago.

You want me to list every pullover that has gone bad from the past decade?

Come on man. You're smarter than that aren't you? To suggest these incidents are very rare and hardly worth considering when police develop their protocols for dealing with... get ready with your listening ears... idiots that feel the need to ignore modest police requests.

Huh, that's funny considering you treat situations of police abuse as very rare and hardly worth considering when police develop their protocols for dealing with idiots who ignore modest police requests.

Yah. I'm an 'extreme apologist'.

I've acknowledged the legitimate cases of abuse. But seeing as we're calling people out here: you've looked at every one that has been presented as gross misuses of power.

For example... you were the person who said when the knife wielding maniac rushed the police... they should have ran into their cars and drove around the block a few times waiting for the psycho to 'chill out'. Remember that one? Lol!

I remember suggesting that in certain situations a tactical retreat shouldn't be a forbidden action, and I remember you scoffing at the idea of de-escalation as you always do. Cops can't back down ever, or the very fabric of law and order will be torn asunder.

See, I can build straw men too!

Tactical retreat? hahaha

Yup. Get in your car and drive away (as you said). When you loop back... discover two people lying on the sidewalk with knife wounds from the maniac that you 'tactically retreated' from.

Good thinking!

I don't remember suggesting driving away, I am pretty sure I was talking about starting with deploying less than lethal tactics from the safety of the car. If I remember correctly, in the case in question there were no bystanders in the vicinity.

You wouldn't last a week on a middle school debate team, your straw man sarcastic tactics are immature and unintelligent.

rgambs said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

rgambs said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

rgambs said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

CM189191 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

CM189191 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Cop exercising way too much patience with some idiot and pays the price:

If my son ever made the brutal error of becoming a cop... I'd be expecting him to shoot well ahead of the point where the idiot got his rifle out of the truck.

Of course, in that event, you'd get fools on here calling him scaredy cop... and other fools spouting off about abuse... and others making excuses for the idiot.

Way to trot out a video that's nearly 20 years old.
If that guy were black in 2016, he would have been shot as soon as he exited the vehicle.
Vietnam Vet, can we jump to the conclusion that he may have had some mental health problems that should have been addressed? Perhaps he should not have been allowed to possess a gun in the first place.

Or maybe he was just watering the Tree of Liberty.

How pathetic.

You need a 'fresh' video to justify police exercising forceful tactics to ensure they aren't killed while trying to keep your house safe?

It's a mountain of such incidents that drives current police policy.

You didn't present a mountain of evidence. You presented an anecdote. From 2 decades ago.

You want me to list every pullover that has gone bad from the past decade?

Come on man. You're smarter than that aren't you? To suggest these incidents are very rare and hardly worth considering when police develop their protocols for dealing with... get ready with your listening ears... idiots that feel the need to ignore modest police requests.

Huh, that's funny considering you treat situations of police abuse as very rare and hardly worth considering when police develop their protocols for dealing with idiots who ignore modest police requests.

Yah. I'm an 'extreme apologist'.

I've acknowledged the legitimate cases of abuse. But seeing as we're calling people out here: you've looked at every one that has been presented as gross misuses of power.

For example... you were the person who said when the knife wielding maniac rushed the police... they should have ran into their cars and drove around the block a few times waiting for the psycho to 'chill out'. Remember that one? Lol!

I remember suggesting that in certain situations a tactical retreat shouldn't be a forbidden action, and I remember you scoffing at the idea of de-escalation as you always do. Cops can't back down ever, or the very fabric of law and order will be torn asunder.

See, I can build straw men too!

Tactical retreat? hahaha

Yup. Get in your car and drive away (as you said). When you loop back... discover two people lying on the sidewalk with knife wounds from the maniac that you 'tactically retreated' from.

Good thinking!

I don't remember suggesting driving away, I am pretty sure I was talking about starting with deploying less than lethal tactics from the safety of the car. If I remember correctly, in the case in question there were no bystanders in the vicinity.

You wouldn't last a week on a middle school debate team, your straw man sarcastic tactics are immature and unintelligent.

Running from your words... tossing out lame insults... while somehow speaking to integrity.

Interesting tactics yourself.

pjalive21 said:

also for the record white guy gets shot at and 6 year old autistic kids get killed and ZERO!!!!!!!! talk or discussion about it

"police kill unarmed white guy and murder his child"....nah doesn't fit the narrative

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/autistic-6-year-old-shot-killed-during-police-pursuit-in-louisiana-report-says/

Very sad story there

Stickman12 said:

dignin said:

pjalive21 said:

also for the record white guy gets shot at and 6 year old autistic kids get killed and ZERO!!!!!!!! talk or discussion about it

"police kill unarmed white guy and murder his child"....nah doesn't fit the narrative

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/autistic-6-year-old-shot-killed-during-police-pursuit-in-louisiana-report-says/

Maybe because you are in the wrong thread. I'm pretty sure talked about it in the police abuse thread. Go there.

Belongs here as well. What was the public reaction?? No riots. No KKK running to the front line inciting violence.

If it belongs here, then tell us why you think it belongs here.

Of course it's relevant.

It's very similar to the violence against women movements. From my perspective, it's violence in general that is the problem.

Don't get me wrong... I'm definitely supportive of women and their varying struggles throughout the planet. I'm just saying a victim is a victim regardless of race or gender- they all deserve support.., and any violence is deplorable.

I have a son and a daughter. I'd feel the same if either were hurt at the hands of some loser.

Go Beavers said:

Stickman12 said:

Difference in reaction.

And why do you think there's a difference in the reaction?

I'm chiming in even if you don't care to hear my two cents.

There's a difference in reactions because some people don't have the capacity to understand the entire scope of the problem.

The BLM movement should move past the police confrontation stage of a young black man's life and look to the obstacles that led them to that point.

The long term solution isn't having cops be more patient and take more risks as they arrest black people. The long term solution is offering black people more of an opportunity to prosper outside of the drug trade or fast food restaurants in their neighbourhoods.

Go Beavers said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Go Beavers said:

Stickman12 said:

Difference in reaction.

And why do you think there's a difference in the reaction?

I'm chiming in even if you don't care to hear my two cents.

There's a difference in reactions because some people don't have the capacity to understand the entire scope of the problem.

The BLM movement should move past the police confrontation stage of a young black man's life and look to the obstacles that led them to that point.

The long term solution isn't having cops be more patient and take more risks as they arrest black people. The long term solution is offering black people more of an opportunity to prosper outside of the drug trade or fast food restaurants in their neighbourhoods.

Because arresting a black guy is more risky thsn arresting a white guy? Hey, hiring a black guy might also be more risky. Even interacting with them could be risky. #whiteprivilege

See.

You must be one of the people I'm talking about.

No. Arresting a black guy is not more risky than arresting a white guy. Arresting a person (purple, blue, black, white, whatever color they might be) that resists arrest and doesn't comply with officer commands is risky.

You see... when cops need to ascertain level of threat and determine what their suspect is doing as they ask them to do simple things that get rebuffed... things get complicated. It's not Groundhog Day for police on the job- there are no mulligans for errors made that cost them their life. It has been established that cops do lose their life in the line of duty so call them scaredy all you want- the risk is real.

I know you're dying to firmly establish the idea that cops are inherently racist and they're preying on black people, but there's much more to it than that. That nice house in the suburbs with the big backyard for your dog... and your sweet ride... yah... part of the problem. The system that favours you and has given you the advantages you enjoy is the same one that places many blacks at a disadvantage and ultimately pits them against police- serving you.

Point fingers all you want, but make sure you point one in the mirror too. And if it was your child at the point of conflict... I bet you'd implore them to only shoot at a suspect if they shoot at him first. Right?

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Go Beavers said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Go Beavers said:

Stickman12 said:

Difference in reaction.

And why do you think there's a difference in the reaction?

I'm chiming in even if you don't care to hear my two cents.

There's a difference in reactions because some people don't have the capacity to understand the entire scope of the problem.

The BLM movement should move past the police confrontation stage of a young black man's life and look to the obstacles that led them to that point.

The long term solution isn't having cops be more patient and take more risks as they arrest black people. The long term solution is offering black people more of an opportunity to prosper outside of the drug trade or fast food restaurants in their neighbourhoods.

Because arresting a black guy is more risky thsn arresting a white guy? Hey, hiring a black guy might also be more risky. Even interacting with them could be risky. #whiteprivilege

See.

You must be one of the people I'm talking about.

No. Arresting a black guy is not more risky than arresting a white guy. Arresting a person (purple, blue, black, white, whatever color they might be) that resists arrest and doesn't comply with officer commands is risky.

You see... when cops need to ascertain level of threat and determine what their suspect is doing as they ask them to do simple things that get rebuffed... things get complicated. It's not Groundhog Day for police on the job- there are no mulligans for errors made that cost them their life. It has been established that cops do lose their life in the line of duty so call them scaredy all you want- the risk is real.

I know you're dying to firmly establish the idea that cops are inherently racist and they're preying on black people, but there's much more to it than that. That nice house in the suburbs with the big backyard for your dog... and your sweet ride... yah... part of the problem. The system that favours you and has given you the advantages you enjoy is the same one that places many blacks at a disadvantage and ultimately pits them against police- serving you.

Point fingers all you want, but make sure you point one in the mirror too. And if it was your child at the point of conflict... I bet you'd implore them to only shoot at a suspect if they shoot at him first. Right?

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