Presidential AMT poll

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  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    Hillary Clinton
    tonifig8 said:

    Free, you should have kept this poll to Americans only, no disrespect to my fellow citizens of the world, but just so we could get a more accurate poll.

    I mean, if we're really getting picky on who votes here and the options given in the realm of keeping it realistic- you're vote for Sanders shouldn't be an option. You should choose not voting because Bernie is not on the ballot.
    I understand the premise you're going for, but 1) it doesn't count 2) the only people who will see that are the election judges when they're counting write-ins, so you're not sticking it to the establishment 3) you're write in vote for Bernie simply gets ignored by the judges just like the people who write in Batman, Superman or Jesus.

    Again, I have thought hard about doing that very thing, but it just doesn't mean anything. I can't write in JFK and pretend like I actually voted for Kennedy in this election.



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  • pjalive21
    pjalive21 St. Louis, MO Posts: 2,818
    edited September 2016
    Donald Drumpf
    my2hands said:

    Most people cant articulate why they "hate" Hillary... I think it's just the popular thing to say/do

    Meanwhile Gary Johnson doesn't even know where or what Aleppo is... that ticket seems to have zero intention of winning and seems like a wasted vote in clearly an important election

    I have 30 years of reasons to dislike Hillary and not enough time or space on this forum to articulate it...and yes my choice was Trump ONLY cause Rand Paul wasn't an option

  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    Hillary Clinton
    Why wouldn't you vote for Johnson? Third parties aren't going to be taken seriously until 1)people vote for them and 2) third parties show they can raise cash.
    I don't see how voting for Johnson in Missouri is a wasted vote. It's going to be red on Election Night, might as well vote your heart.

    Side note: how do you see the governor's race and senate race doing? I think Blunt is going to be okay, but the governors race is already nasty.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,668
    Hillary Clinton
    Degeneratefk said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    going third party for the first time ever. I've voted democrat every year since 1996 but I absolutely loathe Hillary. (and her husband was my favorite president ever)

    I still don't understand the hatred of clinton. I'm wondering why you guys think she lies any less than any other politician, including her hubby.
    .... so nobody is going to actually answer this question?
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  • Boxes&Books
    Boxes&Books USA Posts: 2,672
    Bernie Sanders write in
    PJ_Soul said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    going third party for the first time ever. I've voted democrat every year since 1996 but I absolutely loathe Hillary. (and her husband was my favorite president ever)

    I still don't understand the hatred of clinton. I'm wondering why you guys think she lies any less than any other politician, including her hubby.
    .... so nobody is going to actually answer this question?
    Why don't you guys just read through the Clinton for prez thread.
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    Jill Stein
    tonifig8 said:

    Free, you should have kept this poll to Americans only, no disrespect to my fellow citizens of the world, but just so we could get a more accurate poll.

    Not sure how to do that, in fact, I thought folks out of the US just wouldn't place a vote since, they are not residents! Or do what Hugh voted: not voting dammit!
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,668
    Hillary Clinton
    tonifig8 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    going third party for the first time ever. I've voted democrat every year since 1996 but I absolutely loathe Hillary. (and her husband was my favorite president ever)

    I still don't understand the hatred of clinton. I'm wondering why you guys think she lies any less than any other politician, including her hubby.
    .... so nobody is going to actually answer this question?
    Why don't you guys just read through the Clinton for prez thread.
    Why doesn't someone just answer the question. It's a pretty simple and straightforward question.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,668
    Hillary Clinton
    Free said:

    tonifig8 said:

    Free, you should have kept this poll to Americans only, no disrespect to my fellow citizens of the world, but just so we could get a more accurate poll.

    Not sure how to do that, in fact, I thought folks out of the US just wouldn't place a vote since, they are not residents! Or do what Hugh voted: not voting dammit!
    Are you guys actually expecting to get some kind of accurate or meaningful result here?? What difference does it make if people from other countries voted? Surely you weren't looking to use this poll as some kind of representation of how America is going to vote?
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    edited September 2016
    Hillary Clinton
    Because we're America!

    That's sarcasm, Kat
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  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    Jill Stein
    PJ_Soul said:

    Free said:

    tonifig8 said:

    Free, you should have kept this poll to Americans only, no disrespect to my fellow citizens of the world, but just so we could get a more accurate poll.

    Not sure how to do that, in fact, I thought folks out of the US just wouldn't place a vote since, they are not residents! Or do what Hugh voted: not voting dammit!
    Are you guys actually expecting to get some kind of accurate or meaningful result here?? What difference does it make if people from other countries voted? Surely you weren't looking to use this poll as some kind of representation of how America is going to vote?
    Because, you're not going to be voting in November in the US. Needs no more explanation.
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    Jill Stein
    PJ_Soul said:

    tonifig8 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    going third party for the first time ever. I've voted democrat every year since 1996 but I absolutely loathe Hillary. (and her husband was my favorite president ever)

    I still don't understand the hatred of clinton. I'm wondering why you guys think she lies any less than any other politician, including her hubby.
    .... so nobody is going to actually answer this question?
    Why don't you guys just read through the Clinton for prez thread.
    Why doesn't someone just answer the question. It's a pretty simple and straightforward question.
    She's been working in politics for how many years? And you want a simple answer?? There is none. Read the Hillary thread. Read this too:
    tonifig8 said:

    ledvedderman said:

    I'm not thrilled with it, but I will be voting for Hillary. None of those candidates really represent me, but she's the closest.

    This is a comment from someone on another forum regarding a Clinton policy proposal of $10 billion to stop the heroin epidemic:

    "I plan to vote for Hillary in November due to lack of options.
    However, I wanted to point out that this is a great example of a typical policy proposal of a corporate Democrat. It's nice that Hillary has so many policy proposals to fix the crises facing the country, but when you actually examine those policy proposals, you'll notice an interesting pattern.
    Most of the details of her programs involve making the middle class and upper middle class pay for the programs. Whenever there's a crisis that's primarily caused by corporate greed, the corporatist Democrats say "We're much more compassionate than the Republicans. Here's a government program to alleviate the pain."
    The M.O. of corporatist Democrats is to continue placing Band-Aids over the gaping wounds caused by the unethical practices of big business instead of trying to address the issues anywhere near their source. The issues usually stem from the industries themselves and the agencies that "regulate" them, which have been hijacked by those industries. And then to add insult to injury, they want the middle class to be disproportionately responsible for footing the bill for the collateral damage to society caused by the large corporations.
    The opioid drug companies spent 8 times what the NRA spent on lobbying and campaign contributions from 2006 to 2015. Should anyone really be very surprised that Hillary's plan involves no measures that might discourage these companies from continuing to push these drugs?
    It's especially ridiculous considering her position that more research is needed to establish the benefits of medical marijuana. Are you fucking kidding me? Bought and paid for".
  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    Hillary Clinton
    It's a little far fetched to expect a scientific poll from a band's message board. Especially a band like Pearl Jam whose fans don't typically follow the mainstream in regards to, well, anything. (Which I find cool) Based on that you're going to have higher numbers of parties other than the two main parties. A good chunk of the posters on here would fall in a similar age range. Some are older, some are younger...that's cool.
    I think it's fun to see how we would do if it all came down to us, but we shouldn't take any result seriously.
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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Jill Stein
    i voted for stein to express my solidarity for those who understand that real change isn't achieved through the establishment!!
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    Hillary Clinton
    Free said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Free said:

    tonifig8 said:

    Free, you should have kept this poll to Americans only, no disrespect to my fellow citizens of the world, but just so we could get a more accurate poll.

    Not sure how to do that, in fact, I thought folks out of the US just wouldn't place a vote since, they are not residents! Or do what Hugh voted: not voting dammit!
    Are you guys actually expecting to get some kind of accurate or meaningful result here?? What difference does it make if people from other countries voted? Surely you weren't looking to use this poll as some kind of representation of how America is going to vote?
    Because, you're not going to be voting in November in the US. Needs no more explanation.
    I paid for my membership here, your fuckin' right my voice will be heard! Just try and stop me!

    ;)

    I'm more surprised that people here actually admit that they are going to vote for Trump. Now we will always know who they are, and I have someone to blame if Trump gets elected and I'm living with nuclear fallout.
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    edited September 2016
    Jill Stein
    Dig, As we can see from responses, folks have more of an issue w/ Hillary and her shadiness than Trump and his Misgivings. What does THAT say?
    Post edited by Free on
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    Jill Stein
    Take a look at the last page in the Trump thread to find that, no, Hillary isn't a shoe-in.
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    Hillary Clinton
    Free said:

    Dig, As we can see from responses, folks have more of an issue w/ Hillary and her shadiness than Trump and his Misgivings. What does THAT say?

    She is being held to a much higher standard. And I think she should be held to that standard, but so should Trump. It just seems like everyone has become so numb to how much of an actual fuck-up he is that he can get away with it. That is the only way I can understand it. It really defies all common sense.
  • Boxes&Books
    Boxes&Books USA Posts: 2,672
    Bernie Sanders write in
    polaris_x said:

    i voted for stein to express my solidarity for those who understand that real change isn't achieved through the establishment!!


    I completely agree. She will more then likely get my vote come Nov.
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    edited September 2016
    Jill Stein
    dignin said:

    Free said:

    Dig, As we can see from responses, folks have more of an issue w/ Hillary and her shadiness than Trump and his Misgivings. What does THAT say?

    She is being held to a much higher standard. And I think she should be held to that standard, but so should Trump. It just seems like everyone has become so numb to how much of an actual fuck-up he is that he can get away with it. That is the only way I can understand it. It really defies all common sense.
    In general, Americans of had it with establishment politics. That is the whole thing behind trump, he is a circus in himself and it's clear he doesn't want that job, but the people don't want establishment. "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss" isn't jiving on Americans anymore.

    The one commonality Sanders and trump have is that they're both antiestablishment. And the Sanders movement was YUUGE. If anything is understandable, is that we are fed up with establishment.
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  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    Jill Stein
    tonifig8 said:

    polaris_x said:

    i voted for stein to express my solidarity for those who understand that real change isn't achieved through the establishment!!


    I completely agree. She will more then likely get my vote come Nov.
    Right on! :)

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