Three Way Discussion on Coal-Nuclear-Alternative Energy

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  • unsung
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    polaris_x said:

    companies fail all the time ... how is that related to misinformation and influencing domestic and foreign policy ... is the US bombing innocent people around the world to secure space for solar panels and wind farms!?? ...

    enough with the subsidies ... if we took everyone's subsidies and tax breaks away - do you know which energy source would make the most sense!? ... it ain't coal, nuclear or oil ...

    Anything good enough should be able to stand on its own, or is government in the business of propping up private companies with taxpayer dollars?
  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    polaris_x said:

    companies fail all the time ... how is that related to misinformation and influencing domestic and foreign policy ... is the US bombing innocent people around the world to secure space for solar panels and wind farms!?? ...

    enough with the subsidies ... if we took everyone's subsidies and tax breaks away - do you know which energy source would make the most sense!? ... it ain't coal, nuclear or oil ...

    That's your response? $2.2 billion funneled into a technology that can't compete or sustain? That's $2.2 billion of our tax dollars gone. But hey, companies fail all the time
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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    unsung said:

    polaris_x said:

    companies fail all the time ... how is that related to misinformation and influencing domestic and foreign policy ... is the US bombing innocent people around the world to secure space for solar panels and wind farms!?? ...

    enough with the subsidies ... if we took everyone's subsidies and tax breaks away - do you know which energy source would make the most sense!? ... it ain't coal, nuclear or oil ...

    Anything good enough should be able to stand on its own, or is government in the business of propping up private companies with taxpayer dollars?
    i partially agree ... kill the subsidies for everything ... see what happens ... no one would build another coal or nuclear plant ...
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    edited August 2016
    Degeneratefk said:

    polaris_x said:

    companies fail all the time ... how is that related to misinformation and influencing domestic and foreign policy ... is the US bombing innocent people around the world to secure space for solar panels and wind farms!?? ...

    enough with the subsidies ... if we took everyone's subsidies and tax breaks away - do you know which energy source would make the most sense!? ... it ain't coal, nuclear or oil ...

    That's your response? $2.2 billion funneled into a technology that can't compete or sustain? That's $2.2 billion of our tax dollars gone. But hey, companies fail all the time
    that's pennies compared to the money we funnel towards fossil fuel plants ... your rationale for railing against renewables is failed companies!?? ... coal companies fail ... the fossil fuel energy spends that kind of money you care so much about spreading lies and disinformation ... and lobbying politicians to ravage environmental laws that are aimed at securing public safety ... the pentagon considers global warming to be the greatest threat to US civilians ... and they just recently were told to scrap their preparedness programs by the politicians who are beholden to this fossil fuel lobby ... and you're railing about a bunch of failed companies ...

    and I noticed you have nothing to say about the link I posted again ...
  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    polaris_x said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    polaris_x said:

    companies fail all the time ... how is that related to misinformation and influencing domestic and foreign policy ... is the US bombing innocent people around the world to secure space for solar panels and wind farms!?? ...

    enough with the subsidies ... if we took everyone's subsidies and tax breaks away - do you know which energy source would make the most sense!? ... it ain't coal, nuclear or oil ...

    That's your response? $2.2 billion funneled into a technology that can't compete or sustain? That's $2.2 billion of our tax dollars gone. But hey, companies fail all the time
    that's pennies compared to the money we funnel towards fossil fuel plants ... your rationale for railing against renewables is failed companies!?? ... coal companies fail ... the fossil fuel energy spends that kind of money you care so much about spreading lies and disinformation ... and lobbying politicians to ravage environmental laws that are aimed at securing public safety ... the pentagon considers global warming to be the greatest threat to US civilians ... and they just recently were told to scrap their preparedness programs by the politicians who are beholden to this fossil fuel lobby ... and you're railing about a bunch of failed companies ...

    and I noticed you have nothing to say about the link I posted again ...
    Coal companies have failed because of Obama and the EPA strangling them with regulations. Not because the industry couldn't keep up. And certainly not after receiving billions in tax payer money.

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  • unsung
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    polaris_x said:

    unsung said:

    polaris_x said:

    companies fail all the time ... how is that related to misinformation and influencing domestic and foreign policy ... is the US bombing innocent people around the world to secure space for solar panels and wind farms!?? ...

    enough with the subsidies ... if we took everyone's subsidies and tax breaks away - do you know which energy source would make the most sense!? ... it ain't coal, nuclear or oil ...

    Anything good enough should be able to stand on its own, or is government in the business of propping up private companies with taxpayer dollars?
    i partially agree ... kill the subsidies for everything ... see what happens ... no one would build another coal or nuclear plant ...
    Kill it for everything, places like Planned Parenthood too. No pun intended.

    Kill it for the dairy industry. Kill it for the banks. Kill it for the auto industry. Everything.
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    unsung said:

    polaris_x said:

    unsung said:

    polaris_x said:

    companies fail all the time ... how is that related to misinformation and influencing domestic and foreign policy ... is the US bombing innocent people around the world to secure space for solar panels and wind farms!?? ...

    enough with the subsidies ... if we took everyone's subsidies and tax breaks away - do you know which energy source would make the most sense!? ... it ain't coal, nuclear or oil ...

    Anything good enough should be able to stand on its own, or is government in the business of propping up private companies with taxpayer dollars?
    i partially agree ... kill the subsidies for everything ... see what happens ... no one would build another coal or nuclear plant ...
    Kill it for everything, places like Planned Parenthood too. No pun intended.

    Kill it for the dairy industry. Kill it for the banks. Kill it for the auto industry. Everything.
    I agree ... thats the problem with government today...
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  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    unsung said:

    polaris_x said:

    unsung said:

    polaris_x said:

    companies fail all the time ... how is that related to misinformation and influencing domestic and foreign policy ... is the US bombing innocent people around the world to secure space for solar panels and wind farms!?? ...

    enough with the subsidies ... if we took everyone's subsidies and tax breaks away - do you know which energy source would make the most sense!? ... it ain't coal, nuclear or oil ...

    Anything good enough should be able to stand on its own, or is government in the business of propping up private companies with taxpayer dollars?
    i partially agree ... kill the subsidies for everything ... see what happens ... no one would build another coal or nuclear plant ...
    Kill it for everything, places like Planned Parenthood too. No pun intended.

    Kill it for the dairy industry. Kill it for the banks. Kill it for the auto industry. Everything.
    Yea, those pesky women and their bodies. Who needs em?
    will myself to find a home, a home within myself
    we will find a way, we will find our place
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Subsidized murder, who needs it.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,759
    edited August 2016
    unsung said:

    Subsidized murder, who needs it.

    This subsidized murderer did.
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  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    Hey brian. How's about changing the name of this thread again to abortion is not murder thread.
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  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    unsung said:

    Subsidized murder, who needs it.

    It amazes people think a cluster of cells is a life
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  • Gtilley8
    Gtilley8 Detroit Posts: 985
    edited August 2016
    Degeneratefk said:

    unsung said:

    Subsidized murder, who needs it.

    It amazes people think a cluster of cells is a life
    I agree. WTF. ya know, I thought Roe v Wade settled this. That was what, 50 years ago? Many of the sentiment on the wrong side of this argument is from the ultra religious......Pushing their views on everyone else. Personally I don't care if you believe in whatever God you choose, but please don't make me conform to that. As far as social policy goes, abortion is a huge winner. And generally speaking, these same religious zealots are those that want to kick Muslims out of this country...... Where's the tolerance? Where's turning the other cheek? I married a Lebanese woman, who's grandfather was Muslim..... Never once did I hear of any religious BS from her family. In fact, they're some of the most liberal people I know..... More so than the Catholic family I was raised in. The time for tolerance is now. Your faith should have nothing to do with anyone else except yourself. Bet your ass, I'll fight tooth and nail to make sure you can keep that freedom, so you better have the same mindset for those that don't want what you believe in. Ridiculous. Not what this country is about.
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  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    Gtilley8 said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    unsung said:

    Subsidized murder, who needs it.

    It amazes people think a cluster of cells is a life
    I agree. WTF. ya know, I thought Roe v Wade settled this. That was what, 50 years ago? Many of the sentiment on the wrong side of this argument is from the ultra religious......Pushing their views on everyone else. Personally I don't care if you believe in whatever God you choose, but please don't make me conform to that. As far as social policy goes, abortion is a huge winner. And generally speaking, these same religious zealots are those that want to kick Muslims out of this country...... Where's the tolerance? Where's turning the other cheek? I married a Lebanese woman, who's grandfather was Muslim..... Never once did I hear of any religious BS from her family. In fact, they're some of the most liberal people I know..... More so than the Catholic family I was raised in. The time for tolerance is now. Your faith should have nothing to do with anyone else except yourself. Bet your ass, I'll fight tooth and nail to make sure you can keep that freedom, so you better have the same mindset for those that don't want what you believe in. Ridiculous. Not what this country is about.
    Just had this discussion with my father in law. He's one of those who thinks he has the right to tell people who they can marry. He gets angry with me when I tell him he's too smart to be so stupid
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  • unsung
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    Before all of you get your feeling hurt I said it shouldn't be subsidized, I didn't say it should be banned. My views are my views, deal with it, just like I have to deal with your views.
  • Gtilley8
    Gtilley8 Detroit Posts: 985
    unsung said:

    Before all of you get your feeling hurt I said it shouldn't be subsidized, I didn't say it should be banned. My views are my views, deal with it, just like I have to deal with your views.

    Eh, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I'm entitled to disagree. As are you. Fair enough. But abortion amounts to less than 3% of planned parenthood dollars spent. My mother never had an abortion, but my family was on welfare until I was 4. That being the case, she had to get her healthcare from planned parenthood until we had enough money to pay for it. Probably made it so that we weren't in debt till this day. I just think that before anyone says we need to defund planned parenthood, we might need to look at the benefits it brings to people that want to be contributing members of society. I'd be willing to bet that in the last 10 years, my father has paid as much in taxes as some do in an entire life. In turn, I've become a tax paying member of society. The return on our planned parenthood spending has probably been paid back 20 fold. Helping people is good social policy. See the good, not the controversial bad that is spread all over the news outlets.
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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Gtilley8 said:

    unsung said:

    Before all of you get your feeling hurt I said it shouldn't be subsidized, I didn't say it should be banned. My views are my views, deal with it, just like I have to deal with your views.

    Eh, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I'm entitled to disagree. As are you. Fair enough. But abortion amounts to less than 3% of planned parenthood dollars spent. My mother never had an abortion, but my family was on welfare until I was 4. That being the case, she had to get her healthcare from planned parenthood until we had enough money to pay for it. Probably made it so that we weren't in debt till this day. I just think that before anyone says we need to defund planned parenthood, we might need to look at the benefits it brings to people that want to be contributing members of society. I'd be willing to bet that in the last 10 years, my father has paid as much in taxes as some do in an entire life. In turn, I've become a tax paying member of society. The return on our planned parenthood spending has probably been paid back 20 fold. Helping people is good social policy. See the good, not the controversial bad that is spread all over the news outlets.
    please post more ... these guys are killing me ... haha
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,759
    polaris_x said:

    Gtilley8 said:

    unsung said:

    Before all of you get your feeling hurt I said it shouldn't be subsidized, I didn't say it should be banned. My views are my views, deal with it, just like I have to deal with your views.

    Eh, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I'm entitled to disagree. As are you. Fair enough. But abortion amounts to less than 3% of planned parenthood dollars spent. My mother never had an abortion, but my family was on welfare until I was 4. That being the case, she had to get her healthcare from planned parenthood until we had enough money to pay for it. Probably made it so that we weren't in debt till this day. I just think that before anyone says we need to defund planned parenthood, we might need to look at the benefits it brings to people that want to be contributing members of society. I'd be willing to bet that in the last 10 years, my father has paid as much in taxes as some do in an entire life. In turn, I've become a tax paying member of society. The return on our planned parenthood spending has probably been paid back 20 fold. Helping people is good social policy. See the good, not the controversial bad that is spread all over the news outlets.
    please post more ... these guys are killing me ... haha
    Haha, +1.
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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    scallop fishery collapses in Newfoundland due to oil leak.

    https://www.theweathernetwork.com/news/articles/long-term-oil-spill-causes-fishery-collapse-in-newfoundland/71175/

    where's the good old corporations!? aren't they supposed to fix all leaks ... leaks that rarely happen ... this is what happens when you let public policy be dictated by corporations who's singular mandate is to increase the price of the stock ...
  • unsung
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    Degeneratefk said:

    unsung said:

    Subsidized murder, who needs it.

    It amazes people think a cluster of cells is a life
    Find a cluster of cells on Mars and I'll give you one guess what it gets called.

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