90% of Americans have health insurance....

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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,305
    10% of Americans can now be fined by the IRS
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Jason P said:

    10% of Americans can now be fined by the IRS</blockquote

    my friend could not afford insurance so he didn't pay it last year and got a fine of $2100.....to broke to pay but the government wants that fine money anyway..

    Godfather.

  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,185
    Godfather. said:

    Jason P said:

    10% of Americans can now be fined by the IRS

    If he's broke he could get free insurance through the marketplace.

    $2100 penalty means he isn't broke...just lazy
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  • BinFrog
    BinFrog MA Posts: 7,314
    edited May 2016
    Godfather. said:


    my friend could not afford insurance so he didn't pay it last year and got a fine of $2100.....to broke to pay but the government wants that fine money anyway..

    Godfather.

    That's a complete lie and not at all how the fining system works. If your friend paid $2100, then he is not broke at all and is just stubborn. Or you are completely lying and he either paid far less or nothing at all because his income was too low to meet the threshold.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    I am Canadian, so all this goes over my head. I just show up and get better. No money. But admittedly, sometimes a VERY long wait.
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  • BinFrog
    BinFrog MA Posts: 7,314
    HughFreakingDillon said:

    I am Canadian, so all this goes over my head. I just show up and get better. No money. But admittedly, sometimes a VERY long wait.

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2014/06/13/if-universal-health-care-is-the-goal-dont-copy-canada/#50a6e2c9290d
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    BinFrog said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    I am Canadian, so all this goes over my head. I just show up and get better. No money. But admittedly, sometimes a VERY long wait.

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2014/06/13/if-universal-health-care-is-the-goal-dont-copy-canada/#50a6e2c9290d
    of course. there are MANY issues with it. including losing doctors to the US because staying up here just makes no financial sense. it's damn difficult finding a GP if you don't get grandfathered in with your parents.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    edited May 2016
    there was a guy who died in the waiting room in Winnipeg years ago from complications from a bladder infection because he was overlooked for over 36 hours. the nurses are just plain too busy here.
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    BinFrog said:

    Godfather. said:


    my friend could not afford insurance so he didn't pay it last year and got a fine of $2100.....to broke to pay but the government wants that fine money anyway..

    Godfather.

    That's a complete lie and not at all how the fining system works. If your friend paid $2100, then he is not broke at all and is just stubborn. Or you are completely lying and he either paid far less or nothing at all because his income was too low to meet the threshold.
    no it's not, no he's not....we need to have beer.

    Godfather.

  • BinFrog
    BinFrog MA Posts: 7,314
    If your friend is single, and he was forced to pay $2100, then he makes six figures.
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  • Godfather.
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    BinFrog said:

    If your friend is single, and he was forced to pay $2100, then he makes six figures.

    single and self employed and I have no idea how much he makes ? but he sure don't seem to be in the 6 figure range judging by his house and bike....maybe I misunderstood him ?

    Godfather.
  • Malroth
    Malroth broken down chevrolet Posts: 2,556
    When we filled out our taxes and said we didn't have insurance, they asked us why. We clicked on the box- can't afford- . We paid no penalty this year.
    The worst of times..they don't phase me,
    even if I look and act really crazy.
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,185
    yeah and if your premiums are more than 8% of your income you don't pay a penalty either

    That wipes out penalty for most lower/middle class taxpayers.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,668
    HughFreakingDillon said:

    there was a guy who died in the waiting room in Winnipeg years ago from complications from a bladder infection because he was overlooked for over 36 hours. the nurses are just plain too busy here.

    Yeah, a nursing shortage. Sucks. They need to give better incentives to people to become nurses.
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    this is confusing...why would my friend have to pay ? in fact I've talked to a few people who were fined for no insurance.

    Godfather.
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    PJ_Soul said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    there was a guy who died in the waiting room in Winnipeg years ago from complications from a bladder infection because he was overlooked for over 36 hours. the nurses are just plain too busy here.

    Yeah, a nursing shortage. Sucks. They need to give better incentives to people to become nurses.
    Here in Ontario nurses are being laidoff, 170 locally just got laid off, fortunately for those 170 the US is a viable option.
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  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    lukin2006 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    there was a guy who died in the waiting room in Winnipeg years ago from complications from a bladder infection because he was overlooked for over 36 hours. the nurses are just plain too busy here.

    Yeah, a nursing shortage. Sucks. They need to give better incentives to people to become nurses.
    Here in Ontario nurses are being laidoff, 170 locally just got laid off, fortunately for those 170 the US is a viable option.
    And drs. Are under attack from the government. Messed up here in Ontario.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    sorry to have seemingly derailed your thread. :who_me:
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,668
    lukin2006 said:

    lukin2006 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    there was a guy who died in the waiting room in Winnipeg years ago from complications from a bladder infection because he was overlooked for over 36 hours. the nurses are just plain too busy here.

    Yeah, a nursing shortage. Sucks. They need to give better incentives to people to become nurses.
    Here in Ontario nurses are being laidoff, 170 locally just got laid off, fortunately for those 170 the US is a viable option.
    And drs. Are under attack from the government. Messed up here in Ontario.
    Yes, it's infuriating. I think it's ALL about the government's failure to administrate properly (as opposed to the healthcare framework itself). Bunch of idiots screwing up what can be an excellent system.
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  • what dreams
    what dreams Posts: 1,761
    It's easy to be okay with a government rationed system when you're healthy and all you need is a routine exam or some cold medicine.

    When you are dealt with a life threatening illness like cancer, choice becomes very important. Because of my private PPO, I was able to choose the best doctors in the nation to care for me when I was sick. I could choose a more aggressive treatment plan out of several options presented. If I had been told I had to see a mediocre doctor based on my home address and then offered only one protocol because that's the government standard in my case, I would have pissed. I read story after story during my illness of that happening to patients in Canada and Europe. People with the same exact cancer in the same exact stage or worse waiting months for appointments and not being offered the same options I had. I had surgery within 10 days of diagnosis, finished radiation in three months, while these women were still waiting to get their first ultrasounds back in the same amount of time.

    No thank you. As someone living daily with the threat of recurrence, I am not interested at all in single payer. I will keep my very expensive choices to save my own life.

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