PHILLY (Loosely Related to The Philadelphia Phillies)

The Juggler · May 2016

Still early but nice to see the young bucks mashing the ball

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Most HRs by @MiLB system:
#Rangers 104
#Phillies 92
#Royals 91
#Indians 91
#Dodgers 86
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#Angels fewest 46

pjhawks · May 2016

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JK_Livin said:
I think people are looking for immediate results from these trades because of this surprising start. These kids are still pups. Let them develop.
I just don't think the players they got for hamels are very good. That's my issue. If you're gonna trade an ace pitcher in their prime who is signed to multiple years of below market value, then I think you need to get at least one star player in return. Phillies failed to do that. Keep in mind, they didn't HAVE to trade him when they did.
I think they got 3 players who could all eventually be significant contributors to a good team.

See I like the quantity over quality argument. Instead of putting all your eggs in one prospect's basket, you hedge your bet with multiple guys. There are no guarantees that any prospect, even top 5 guys (cough Dom Brown cough cough) will make it. Why not give your team a few more chances? Multiple assets is a good thing.

And Appel has pitched well so far. I like how they're keeping him in double A and kind of easing him into the system.
they traded one of the best pitchers in mlb. I don't want guys who 'could be' contributors. Mazara was a lock to be a stud. Brinson could be. I didn't want Gallo or Alfaro or Thompson -- all maybes.

Hocheaver, I mean Appel got shelled in his last start. His WHIP is 1.50. He's gone six innings in only one of his starts. Not sure how that's good. Move him to the pen already, he's not a starter . Also he's not in AA
Like I said, there are plenty of intelligent baseball minds out there who disagree with your assessment of that trade. Law thinks the Phils made out real well. Most analysts also think The Phils fleeced the Houston too. Time will tell.

And Dom Brown was once a lock to be a stud too. I just like the fact that they have multiple lottery tickets.
the man was negative when the Phils were winning 95-100 games, do you really expect him to be positive now Juggler?

Its always iffy when talking about prospects. remember when a good portion of people didn't want to give up Kyle Drabek in a Roy Halladay trade? It's very difficult to project who is going to be a star in the majors outside of a few can't miss guys. I man Pat Burrell was the #2 pick. good major leaguer but not a stud by any stretch.

Right now you have to like what you see out of Nola, Vasquez, Eichoff, Franco, and Herrera on the MLB roster and hopefully Crawford by the latest the beginning of next season.
Pretty sure any team would take Pat Burrell's career regardless of where he was picked. .834 OPS over 12 years
yeah, some people here should never talk about baseball. track records around here speak for themselves. dude doesn't even know that burrell was the first overall pick and the other one doesn't know what level appel is playing at

this thread is definitely a case where being in the minority is a good thing

good to see the Kayne of this thread is back. sue me for forgetting what pick Pat Burrell was 19 fucking years ago. been kind of busy for those past 19 years you know.

At least there is no doubt which team Juggler and I cheer for. aren't you an Orioles fan now? i mean you were a Phils fan when they were winning, then a few years ago it was the O's when they were in the playoffs, so who is it now? Are you a fan of someone else now? Cubs maybe? Nats, Mets? or do we have to wait until the playoffs before you decide again?

The Juggler · May 2016

http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/70557/even-better-than-expected-altuve-arenado-nola-rizzo

Even better than expected: Jose Altuve, Nolan Arenado, Aaron Nola, Anthony Rizzo

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David Schoenfield
Evaluating baseball prospects sometimes seems like a preposterous idea: Take a teenage kid, project him four or five years into the future and predict whether he'll develop the ability to hit breaking balls or whether he'll add velocity to his fastball (or lose velocity). Then factor in all the intangibles: Will he deal with failure? Will he stay healthy? Does he have that desire to get better and work at his game?

It's remarkable that the evaluators do as well as they do. Sometimes they're right in predicting a guy as a future big leaguer, but underestimate on his ultimate upside. Here are a few stars who turned out better than expected.

Aaron Nola, Philadelphia Phillies

Peak prospect rating: No. 39 Baseball America, No. 60 Baseball Prospectus, No. 57 Keith Law

Quote: "Nola's hallmark is his stellar command, which stems from good athletic ability and freakish flexibility. His fastball checks in at 93-95 mph and gets excellent life from a mid-three-quarters arm slot. He backs up the fastball with a slider and changeup, which each have the potential to be plus in the future." -- 2015 Baseball America Prospect Handbook

Nola was the seventh overall pick in the 2014 draft out of LSU, so it's not as if he has come out of nowhere. But he was described as a guy with a higher floor than ceiling -- a good bet to make the majors but more likely to settle in as No. 3 starter than an ace. It always seemed a little odd that the Phillies would take a pitcher without major upside that high in the draft. Well, maybe the Phillies knew something because Nola is currently pitching like an ace: 3.13 ERA, 46 IP, 31 H, 8 BB, 49 SO, 3 HR. His knockout pitch is a curveball that might be the best in the game right now. What's interesting is that his pitch was always described as a slider, not a curve. Whatever it is, it has been almost impossible to hit: Batters are hitting just .074 against it (they hit .191 last year). Note as well from that piece I linked to that Nola has moved from the middle of the rubber to the first-base side.

Nola's average fastball velocity is actually just 90.0 mph, so less than than the ranges described as an amateur. But note what Keith Law wrote last year: "Nola has grade-70 command of his 91-94 mph fastball, with very good life on the pitch, locating it where he wants to either side of the plate and showing little fear when working with it." It's the big velocity that gets pitcher a high ranking on the prospect lists, but if you have grade-70 command and movement, that's a road to success as well.

eeriepadave · May 2016

they should sweep The Braves

The Juggler · May 2016

Lenny Dykstra just joined Twitter. God bless America.

Also I just realized I forgot to get his book. That is next on the list.

Jearlpam0925 · May 2016

The Juggler said:
Lenny Dykstra just joined Twitter. God bless America.

Also I just realized I forgot to get his book. That is next on the list.

And I promptly followed.

I cannot, for the life of me, be able to purchase and read that. I'm going to assume at least 75% of it is made up. But when you're done with it I'll gladly borrow it.

Who knew my childhood idol was a complete scumbag?

The Juggler · May 2016

Jearlpam0925 said:

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The Juggler said:
Lenny Dykstra just joined Twitter. God bless America.

Also I just realized I forgot to get his book. That is next on the list.
And I promptly followed.

I cannot, for the life of me, be able to purchase and read that. I'm going to assume at least 75% of it is made up. But when you're done with it I'll gladly borrow it.

Who knew my childhood idol was a complete scumbag?

His cover photo is awesome. Him knocking out Dempsey... retro 1991ish?

The movie needs to happen!

Ledbetterman10 · May 2016

The Juggler said:
Lenny Dykstra just joined Twitter. God bless America.

I immediately followed after reading this. His most recent tweet:

What would you prefer: I live tweet first few innings of tonights Mets Dodgers game or live tweet an episode of Full House on Nick?
— Lenny Dykstra (@LennyDykstra) May 11, 2016

An INTERACTIVE Nails Twitter? I'm in heaven.

pjhawks · May 2016

Ledbetterman10 said:

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The Juggler said:
Lenny Dykstra just joined Twitter. God bless America.
I immediately followed after reading this. His most recent tweet:
What would you prefer: I live tweet first few innings of tonights Mets Dodgers game or live tweet an episode of Full House on Nick?
— Lenny Dykstra (@LennyDykstra) May 11, 2016

An INTERACTIVE Nails Twitter? I'm in heaven.

gotta go with Full House. I mean is there not any chance he will say something inappropriate?

Jearlpam0925 · May 2016

The Juggler said:

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Jearlpam0925 said:

The Juggler said:
Lenny Dykstra just joined Twitter. God bless America.

Also I just realized I forgot to get his book. That is next on the list.
And I promptly followed.

I cannot, for the life of me, be able to purchase and read that. I'm going to assume at least 75% of it is made up. But when you're done with it I'll gladly borrow it.

Who knew my childhood idol was a complete scumbag?
His cover photo is awesome. Him knocking out Dempsey... retro 1991ish?

The movie needs to happen!

I believe that was when Dempsey was bitching to the ump about the strike zone. Dykstra turned around during his at-bat to tell Dempsey to "look at the fucking scoreboard, asshole" because he was hitting like .340 and due to this he'd know the strike zone better than Dempsey. Which was then followed by Dempsey's mistake of getting in The Dude's face. Man, what a meathead.

Baseball's gotta outnumber meatheads than all other sports combined. True or false - are not all white baseball players voting for Trump? It's not not true right? I'd say especially the 99.999999% of them from Missouri.

Cliffy6745 · May 2016

Jearlpam0925 said:

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The Juggler said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

The Juggler said:
Lenny Dykstra just joined Twitter. God bless America.

Also I just realized I forgot to get his book. That is next on the list.
And I promptly followed.

I cannot, for the life of me, be able to purchase and read that. I'm going to assume at least 75% of it is made up. But when you're done with it I'll gladly borrow it.

Who knew my childhood idol was a complete scumbag?
His cover photo is awesome. Him knocking out Dempsey... retro 1991ish?

The movie needs to happen!
I believe that was when Dempsey was bitching to the ump about the strike zone. Dykstra turned around during his at-bat to tell Dempsey to "look at the fucking scoreboard, asshole" because he was hitting like .340 and due to this he'd know the strike zone better than Dempsey. Which was then followed by Dempsey's mistake of getting in The Dude's face. Man, what a meathead.

Baseball's gotta outnumber meatheads than all other sports combined. True or false - are not all white baseball players voting for Trump? It's not not true right? I'd say especially the 99.999999% of them from Missouri.

Every.Single.One.Of.Them.

My first reaction when Paul O'Neill went all Trump was to be mildly annoyed, then I realized it was Paul O'Neill and of course he is all about The Donald, it wouldn't make sense any other way.

Ledbetterman10 · May 2016

pjhawks said:

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Ledbetterman10 said:

The Juggler said:
Lenny Dykstra just joined Twitter. God bless America.
I immediately followed after reading this. His most recent tweet:
What would you prefer: I live tweet first few innings of tonights Mets Dodgers game or live tweet an episode of Full House on Nick?
— Lenny Dykstra (@LennyDykstra) May 11, 2016

An INTERACTIVE Nails Twitter? I'm in heaven.
gotta go with Full House. I mean is there not any chance he will say something inappropriate?

I was thinking the same thing. Especially considering "Saget" rhymes with...well...you know.

The Juggler · May 2016

Cliffy6745 said:

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Jearlpam0925 said:

The Juggler said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

The Juggler said:
Lenny Dykstra just joined Twitter. God bless America.

Also I just realized I forgot to get his book. That is next on the list.
And I promptly followed.

I cannot, for the life of me, be able to purchase and read that. I'm going to assume at least 75% of it is made up. But when you're done with it I'll gladly borrow it.

Who knew my childhood idol was a complete scumbag?
His cover photo is awesome. Him knocking out Dempsey... retro 1991ish?

The movie needs to happen!
I believe that was when Dempsey was bitching to the ump about the strike zone. Dykstra turned around during his at-bat to tell Dempsey to "look at the fucking scoreboard, asshole" because he was hitting like .340 and due to this he'd know the strike zone better than Dempsey. Which was then followed by Dempsey's mistake of getting in The Dude's face. Man, what a meathead.

Baseball's gotta outnumber meatheads than all other sports combined. True or false - are not all white baseball players voting for Trump? It's not not true right? I'd say especially the 99.999999% of them from Missouri.
Every.Single.One.Of.Them.

My first reaction when Paul O'Neill went all Trump was to be mildly annoyed, then I realized it was Paul O'Neill and of course he is all about The Donald, it wouldn't make sense any other way.

....Except Cole Hamels. Don't quite seem him as a Trump guy. He's more of a Green Party fella.

Jearlpam0925 · May 2016

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EM3NSTbi4OQ

Ledbetterman10 · May 2016

Well...as promised....Dykstra live tweeted a Full House episode. Some highlights....

When the episode involving a three way air? #nailsfullhouse
— Lenny Dykstra (@LennyDykstra) May 12, 2016

Who the fuck are the people on that laugh track? Someone shut them up. #nailsfullhouse
— Lenny Dykstra (@LennyDykstra) May 12, 2016

I think we could have done a "Full House" series my rook year when i lived with Doc and Straw. Not TV G though. #nailsfullhouse
— Lenny Dykstra (@LennyDykstra) May 12, 2016

eeriepadave · May 2016

Ledbetterman10 said:
Well...as promised....Dykstra live tweeted a Full House episode. Some highlights....

When the episode involving a three way air? #nailsfullhouse
— Lenny Dykstra (@LennyDykstra) May 12, 2016

Who the fuck are the people on that laugh track? Someone shut them up. #nailsfullhouse
— Lenny Dykstra (@LennyDykstra) May 12, 2016

I think we could have done a "Full House" series my rook year when i lived with Doc and Straw. Not TV G though. #nailsfullhouse
— Lenny Dykstra (@LennyDykstra) May 12, 2016

was it full house or fuller house?

Ledbetterman10 · May 2016

eeriepadave said:

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Ledbetterman10 said:
Well...as promised....Dykstra live tweeted a Full House episode. Some highlights....

When the episode involving a three way air? #nailsfullhouse
— Lenny Dykstra (@LennyDykstra) May 12, 2016

Who the fuck are the people on that laugh track? Someone shut them up. #nailsfullhouse
— Lenny Dykstra (@LennyDykstra) May 12, 2016

I think we could have done a "Full House" series my rook year when i lived with Doc and Straw. Not TV G though. #nailsfullhouse
— Lenny Dykstra (@LennyDykstra) May 12, 2016

was it full house or fuller house?

A Full House rerun.

Which Olsen twin is that? #nailsfullhouse
— Lenny Dykstra (@LennyDykstra) May 12, 2016

eeriepadave · May 2016

oh k

pjhawks · May 2016

Ledbetterman10 said:
Well...as promised....Dykstra live tweeted a Full House episode. Some highlights....

When the episode involving a three way air? #nailsfullhouse
— Lenny Dykstra (@LennyDykstra) May 12, 2016

Who the fuck are the people on that laugh track? Someone shut them up. #nailsfullhouse
— Lenny Dykstra (@LennyDykstra) May 12, 2016

I think we could have done a "Full House" series my rook year when i lived with Doc and Straw. Not TV G though. #nailsfullhouse
— Lenny Dykstra (@LennyDykstra) May 12, 2016

well that didn't take long. wow. lenny on twitter is not gonna end well.

Cliffy6745 · May 2016

So Petty's original band, Mudcrutch, is playing The Fillmore in a few weeks. Tuesday night, but this may have to happen. Tickets are kinda pricey, but it's friggen Petty in a couple thousand person venue.

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