Police abuse

WhatYouTaughtMe said:

rgambs said:

WhatYouTaughtMe said:

JC29856 said:

Scardey cop POV

https://youtu.be/dD33nhQF3uk

An unarmed man getting gunned down isn't a punchline.

And neither are the men and women who put their lives on the line, I am a big critic of police work, but I don't condone JC's tactics, they are juvenile and they detract from a serious issue.

Absolutely. That video specifically is a tough situation. A mentally ill man with a hose nozzle painted black in his waist. People reported he had a gun. Yes the police acted quickly, but what is the appropriate amount of time to find out if he really had a weapon?

I appreciate this and RGs last post.

This post, in particular, illustrates how challenging the police job has become.

JC (and others for that matter) thinks a cop should take a bullet or be assaulted or attacked by a reputationally ferocious dog before they resort to defending themselves.

While I can get behind any situation where it is clearly illustrated that a cop was excessive and brutal (I've been outspoken in the Rice and Thomas situations)... I am a million miles from thinking cops are worthless and signing up to do that job means getting hurt or killed before risking a mistake.

umm stick to your jobs duties. of particular note is the last couple paragraphs.....

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/04/09/us/indiana-state-trooper-is-fired-for-proselytizing-during-traffic-stops.html?_r=0&referer=http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/week-god-4916?cid=sm_fb_maddow

Had to bite my tongue Wednesday when one of our well-respected and decorated local cops called the Orlando massacre as "a good start" without a smile or a chuckle.

I'm joining this topic late, I know. No matter what profession you talk about there is always bad apples. If you're not in education you probably have no idea how many teachers are involved with sex scandals, its sick. Some cops are going to be bad. But I don't think it I proportionally higher than any other occupation, and probably actually far less due to the background checks while hiring.
Early in the thread there was a discussion on Eric Gardner (cigarette guy). They did not target him, they responded to calls made by local store owners. Imagine the complains they would have if they called police and no one showed up to assist with someone loitering and illegally selling cigarettes.
They did not choke him to death, he died of cardiac arrest (heart attack because he was 400 lbs) and not even on the scene. Maybe it was triggered by the situation, but he was not choked to death as media reported for days. Any police officer will tell you they put the hold on him as trained because he was refusing. He refused to cooperate and leave so force was required. Did he deserve to die? Absolutely not. But the police did exactly as trained when someone resists. If you think it is too forceful that is a different argument, talk about retraining police.
Michael Brown never had his hands up, that was proven with physical evidence and several eye witnesses who didn't seek media attention. Most of the "witnesses" were proved to lie and many to not even have been on the scene. Yet Daren Wilson is thrown under the bus anyway, Media, NFL players, Jackson, Shapiro and even government want to see him hang without even considering the evidence. In fact I saw an interview only played once where a black congresswomen from WA state when asked about the physical evidence not supporting the hands up don't shoot she responded "I don't care about the facts, he [Wilson] needs to be prosecuted." Why was that not all over the news, a congresswoman pleading to ignore physical evidence and arrest someone anyway.
Then we wonder why police are reluctant to enter south Chicago and other high crime areas, and now we see crime rates skyrocket and scratch our heads why.
Yes, there are some bad apples-I don't remember the name but he incident in South Carolina looks like flat our murder, and I believe that cop was already arrested and in jail for that and deserves to be there. But I also truly believe most cops took that job and risk their lives because they want to help.

rgambs said:

PJ_Soul said:

rgambs said:

Had to bite my tongue Wednesday when one of our well-respected and decorated local cops called the Orlando massacre as "a good start" without a smile or a chuckle.

Can a cop say that and keep his job??

Hahaha seriously? He'd be more likely to get a commendation!

Really? I don't think a cop could get away with that here. He'd be forced to resign anyway. Okay, that's not the same as being fired, but still.
Anyway, that's really fucked up. Even if he thought it, it's disturbing that any cop can be stupid enough to say it out loud in public.

dignin said:

It's looney season again apparently.

Man shot dead by police in front of woman and child during traffic stop in Minnesota
Unverified Facebook Live video shows man bleeding in the driver's seat while officer stands at the window

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/minnesota-police-shooting-1.3668185

Thought this was the more appropriate thread.

Straight up murder.

Some police statistics for the first 6 months of 2016........

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2016/07/05/3794553/police-killings-2016/

Peace

dignin said:

PJ_Soul said:

dignin said:

It's looney season again apparently.

Man shot dead by police in front of woman and child during traffic stop in Minnesota
Unverified Facebook Live video shows man bleeding in the driver's seat while officer stands at the window

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/minnesota-police-shooting-1.3668185

Thought this was the more appropriate thread.

Straight up murder.

Sure looks that way. It seems like open season on black men again.

Is it the summer temperature? Or was a memo sent out to all PD's saying "the heat is off, you can go about your business of killing black men again"

That will go on my list of top 5 dumbest things I've read on AMT!

pjalive21 said:

g under p said:

Some police statistics for the first 6 months of 2016........

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2016/07/05/3794553/police-killings-2016/

Peace

1. race can be thrown out of this whole debate with those stats that came from a liberal website at that

2. that's a lot of people killed at the hands of police for whatever reason, but im sure between my city and Chicago the murder rate makes that small

More info, please take the time to look at this








https://thesocietypages.org/toolbox/police-killing-of-blacks/