Good Bernie Sanders interview TYT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggFitmOTSokComments
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Excellent- thanks for posting it, shadow_flag.
Great section on how the media intentionally works against Bernie, doing their damnedest to try smear his campaign. Bernie, strong. Media, weak.
Reconfirms what we already know: Hillary is the establishment candidate with corporate sponsorship. Media = the establishment.
"If you were to lose would you support the establishment candidate [Hillary]?" Great answer. Watch the video!
Excellent response to climate change.
Hillary and Bill have raised a billion dollars for this campaign? How do you support that?
..."working class people and young people being to understand that it is imperative that they participate in the political process". Hugely important point.
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the corporate media has rendered the american public blind ... it's why we can't have discussions about how the US has contributed to terrorism ...0
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Where in the interview does it discuss the media being biased against Bernie? I'd like to see it but don't want to watch 33 minutes of Bernie to get there.
I hear this all the time, but I struggle with seeing it myself. The Huff Post couldn't be anymore outrageously pro Bernie in its reporting (not commentary which is worse) and it has the 4th most hits of any news site. So it's not exactly underground.0 -
you don't have to watch long ... i think the length of the video is tied into the entire episode of which Bernie is the beginning ...mrussel1 said:Where in the interview does it discuss the media being biased against Bernie? I'd like to see it but don't want to watch 33 minutes of Bernie to get there.
I hear this all the time, but I struggle with seeing it myself. The Huff Post couldn't be anymore outrageously pro Bernie in its reporting (not commentary which is worse) and it has the 4th most hits of any news site. So it's not exactly underground.
i would say for sure that Sanders has media bias ... either that or incompetent media outlets ... both of which are plausible ...0 -
I'll watch it.. But here's the thing. We should have no expectation of unbiased media. Media has never had an obligation to report something fairly. During the first 200 years of our existence (and 100 years of colonial times) newspapers were organs of political parties. That was their raison d'etre. Somewhere in the last 40 years or so, we've developed this sense that the media is an impartial arbiter when that's never been the case. I'm not saying it's right, just don't expect it.polaris_x said:
you don't have to watch long ... i think the length of the video is tied into the entire episode of which Bernie is the beginning ...mrussel1 said:Where in the interview does it discuss the media being biased against Bernie? I'd like to see it but don't want to watch 33 minutes of Bernie to get there.
I hear this all the time, but I struggle with seeing it myself. The Huff Post couldn't be anymore outrageously pro Bernie in its reporting (not commentary which is worse) and it has the 4th most hits of any news site. So it's not exactly underground.
i would say for sure that Sanders has media bias ... either that or incompetent media outlets ... both of which are plausible ...
Which media outlets are biased against Sanders and can you point some articles that support that argument? I don't mean from like the National Review or Brietbart, I mean a major outlet. Huff Post used to be mainstream, but I"m not sure about that anymore.
Here's a good one from Huff post.. Look at the friggin' headline. And this was not an opinion piece, it was from a 'staff reporter'. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-aipac-israel_us_56f072eae4b09bf44a9e34a1Post edited by mrussel1 on0 -
TYT is regarded as NSFW.
Is anyone in agreement?
With that aside - it is pretty good channel to watch.0 -
well ... i'm sure someone else could do a better job of pointing to the bias ... i just remember reading about how clinton won Arizona the day after but nothing about sanders' wins in the other states that same night ... nor the voter suppression in az ...mrussel1 said:
I'll watch it.. But here's the thing. We should have no expectation of unbiased media. Media has never had an obligation to report something fairly. During the first 200 years of our existence (and 100 years of colonial times) newspapers were organs of political parties. That was their raison d'etre. Somewhere in the last 40 years or so, we've developed this sense that the media is an impartial arbiter when that's never been the case. I'm not saying it's right, just don't expect it.polaris_x said:
you don't have to watch long ... i think the length of the video is tied into the entire episode of which Bernie is the beginning ...mrussel1 said:Where in the interview does it discuss the media being biased against Bernie? I'd like to see it but don't want to watch 33 minutes of Bernie to get there.
I hear this all the time, but I struggle with seeing it myself. The Huff Post couldn't be anymore outrageously pro Bernie in its reporting (not commentary which is worse) and it has the 4th most hits of any news site. So it's not exactly underground.
i would say for sure that Sanders has media bias ... either that or incompetent media outlets ... both of which are plausible ...
Which media outlets are biased against Sanders and can you point some articles that support that argument? I don't mean from like the National Review or Brietbart, I mean a major outlet. Huff Post used to be mainstream, but I"m not sure about that anymore.
Here's a good one from Huff post.. Look at the friggin' headline. And this was not an opinion piece, it was from a 'staff reporter'. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-aipac-israel_us_56f072eae4b09bf44a9e34a1
i'm not sure I would put the huff post in the same vein as nbc, cbs, fox, cnn, abc ...
as for your point about no expectation on unbiased media - i would objectively agree however, considering how many people assume stuff coming out of the corporate media as 100% fact - it's still relevant in that the majority of people do not factor bias in the reporting ...0 -
Media coverage is all about expectations. Bernie was expected to do well in UT and ID and he did. AZ was supposed to be close and it was a steam roll and that's where the big delegates were that night. Bernie got PLENTY of positive coverage when he won Michigan and he was supposed to lose. Don't forget VA and NC went heavily to Hillary the same night and they are swing states. But they got lost in the shuffle due to Michigan.polaris_x said:
well ... i'm sure someone else could do a better job of pointing to the bias ... i just remember reading about how clinton won Arizona the day after but nothing about sanders' wins in the other states that same night ... nor the voter suppression in az ...mrussel1 said:
I'll watch it.. But here's the thing. We should have no expectation of unbiased media. Media has never had an obligation to report something fairly. During the first 200 years of our existence (and 100 years of colonial times) newspapers were organs of political parties. That was their raison d'etre. Somewhere in the last 40 years or so, we've developed this sense that the media is an impartial arbiter when that's never been the case. I'm not saying it's right, just don't expect it.polaris_x said:
you don't have to watch long ... i think the length of the video is tied into the entire episode of which Bernie is the beginning ...mrussel1 said:Where in the interview does it discuss the media being biased against Bernie? I'd like to see it but don't want to watch 33 minutes of Bernie to get there.
I hear this all the time, but I struggle with seeing it myself. The Huff Post couldn't be anymore outrageously pro Bernie in its reporting (not commentary which is worse) and it has the 4th most hits of any news site. So it's not exactly underground.
i would say for sure that Sanders has media bias ... either that or incompetent media outlets ... both of which are plausible ...
Which media outlets are biased against Sanders and can you point some articles that support that argument? I don't mean from like the National Review or Brietbart, I mean a major outlet. Huff Post used to be mainstream, but I"m not sure about that anymore.
Here's a good one from Huff post.. Look at the friggin' headline. And this was not an opinion piece, it was from a 'staff reporter'. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-aipac-israel_us_56f072eae4b09bf44a9e34a1
i'm not sure I would put the huff post in the same vein as nbc, cbs, fox, cnn, abc ...
as for your point about no expectation on unbiased media - i would objectively agree however, considering how many people assume stuff coming out of the corporate media as 100% fact - it's still relevant in that the majority of people do not factor bias in the reporting ...
The other thing about AZ and why even Sanders' campaign isn't arguing that they should have won.. the issues with voting were in Maricopa County overwhelmingly. And specifically in minority districts. Hillary beat Bernie 58-40 in Maricopa. What that means is that voting issues were either neutral or likely disproportionately affected HRC.0 -
The media bias against Bernie is obvious. I think to deny it or excuse it or walk around it can only be an indication of not really following this thing very closely. Watch the video. Even just the first 10 or 15 minutes. There are plenty of examples there. It's obvious and undeniable.
Media = Establishment = Corporate Power
Hillary is supported by establishment controlled Media. She receives her financial support through corporate power establishment. This too is undeniable."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
i'm not sure I buy you're first point ... pretty sure clinton was favoured heavily in arizona prior ...mrussel1 said:
Media coverage is all about expectations. Bernie was expected to do well in UT and ID and he did. AZ was supposed to be close and it was a steam roll and that's where the big delegates were that night. Bernie got PLENTY of positive coverage when he won Michigan and he was supposed to lose. Don't forget VA and NC went heavily to Hillary the same night and they are swing states. But they got lost in the shuffle due to Michigan.polaris_x said:
well ... i'm sure someone else could do a better job of pointing to the bias ... i just remember reading about how clinton won Arizona the day after but nothing about sanders' wins in the other states that same night ... nor the voter suppression in az ...mrussel1 said:
I'll watch it.. But here's the thing. We should have no expectation of unbiased media. Media has never had an obligation to report something fairly. During the first 200 years of our existence (and 100 years of colonial times) newspapers were organs of political parties. That was their raison d'etre. Somewhere in the last 40 years or so, we've developed this sense that the media is an impartial arbiter when that's never been the case. I'm not saying it's right, just don't expect it.polaris_x said:
you don't have to watch long ... i think the length of the video is tied into the entire episode of which Bernie is the beginning ...mrussel1 said:Where in the interview does it discuss the media being biased against Bernie? I'd like to see it but don't want to watch 33 minutes of Bernie to get there.
I hear this all the time, but I struggle with seeing it myself. The Huff Post couldn't be anymore outrageously pro Bernie in its reporting (not commentary which is worse) and it has the 4th most hits of any news site. So it's not exactly underground.
i would say for sure that Sanders has media bias ... either that or incompetent media outlets ... both of which are plausible ...
Which media outlets are biased against Sanders and can you point some articles that support that argument? I don't mean from like the National Review or Brietbart, I mean a major outlet. Huff Post used to be mainstream, but I"m not sure about that anymore.
Here's a good one from Huff post.. Look at the friggin' headline. And this was not an opinion piece, it was from a 'staff reporter'. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-aipac-israel_us_56f072eae4b09bf44a9e34a1
i'm not sure I would put the huff post in the same vein as nbc, cbs, fox, cnn, abc ...
as for your point about no expectation on unbiased media - i would objectively agree however, considering how many people assume stuff coming out of the corporate media as 100% fact - it's still relevant in that the majority of people do not factor bias in the reporting ...
The other thing about AZ and why even Sanders' campaign isn't arguing that they should have won.. the issues with voting were in Maricopa County overwhelmingly. And specifically in minority districts. Hillary beat Bernie 58-40 in Maricopa. What that means is that voting issues were either neutral or likely disproportionately affected HRC.0 -
Trump is supported by the media as well and he does not even own them.brianlux said:The media bias against Bernie is obvious. I think to deny it or excuse it or walk around it can only be an indication of not really following this thing very closely. Watch the video. Even just the first 10 or 15 minutes. There are plenty of examples there. It's obvious and undeniable.
Media = Establishment = Corporate Power
Hillary is supported by establishment controlled Media. She receives her financial support through corporate power establishment. This too is undeniable.0 -
This again, really?
http://community.pearljam.com/discussion/251193/how-the-news-works#latest
The mainstream media is owned by 6 corporations. Every presidential candidate accept money from corporations, except for Sanders. Mainstream media will NOT voluntarily cover a presidential candidate who is against the entire idea of accepting corporate money and who is running on a platform of overturning Citizens United. The only reason they are NOW reporting about Bernie is because he is now a serious threat to establishment politics. He has so much massive support the MSM HAVE to talk about him.0 -
^ now we're linking to other threads? How far we've fallen..
The media wants to maximize profit. Plain and simple. You think too hard on this and spin yourself in circles. Why do you think Palin got so much coverage in 2008? Eyeballs. It's always about eyeballs (or clicks, today). Trump has had millions of dollars of free coverage because he is outrageous. Your accusations go against the very nature of economics. You should take macro econ to start.0 -
Mrussell, it's been nice. But I'm not going through a ridiculous circle jerk w/ you again about this subject nor any other objective topic, like w/ the Arizona voter fraud last week. Done.Post edited by Free on0
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mrussel, really, this is more than just a Palin or Trump style media spin we're talking about. The mainstream media is working against Bernie Sanders because, as Free pointed out Hillary is in tight with corporate America and Sanders is not. It's really that simple. No need to take an econ class to see that.mrussel1 said:^ now we're linking to other threads? How far we've fallen..
The media wants to maximize profit. Plain and simple. You think too hard on this and spin yourself in circles. Why do you think Palin got so much coverage in 2008? Eyeballs. It's always about eyeballs (or clicks, today). Trump has had millions of dollars of free coverage because he is outrageous. Your accusations go against the very nature of economics. You should take macro econ to start."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
And by the way, I've been curious about this mrussel, why are you working so hard here against Sanders? How is he a threat to you? I don't get it."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0
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No problem. Go back to researching how Hillary sabotaged JFK Jr's plane over Nantucket. Good luck with that one.Free said:Mrussell, it's been nice. But I'm not going through a ridiculous circle w/ you again about this subject nor any other objective topic, like w/ the Arizona voter fraud last week. Done.
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At least I'm not in the closet.mrussel1 said:
No problem. Go back to researching how Hillary sabotaged JFK Jr's plane over Nantucket. Good luck with that one.Free said:Mrussell, it's been nice. But I'm not going through a ridiculous circle w/ you again about this subject nor any other objective topic, like w/ the Arizona voter fraud last week. Done.
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I don't give a shit if you're gay. More power to you.Free said:
At least I'm not in the closet.mrussel1 said:
No problem. Go back to researching how Hillary sabotaged JFK Jr's plane over Nantucket. Good luck with that one.Free said:Mrussell, it's been nice. But I'm not going through a ridiculous circle w/ you again about this subject nor any other objective topic, like w/ the Arizona voter fraud last week. Done.
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