Fascism: Can It Happen Here?

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  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    edited March 2016
    BS44325 said:

    Free said:

    BS44325 said:

    brianlux said:

    "To suggest that anyone who questions the current science is a heretic is fascism." Question all you want. You have that right. I've never said or even suggested you are not allowed to question anything. Yeah, sure, if I said, "BS, you are not allowed to question global warming", that would be a relatively fascist statement.

    Now as to why anyone with half a brain any any kind of common sense would argue with the 97% of scientists who agree that global warming is anthropogenic... rolling eyes, baby, rolling eyes.

    Many scientists can and do argue with the "97%" and the number disputing current science is growing everyday as new data rolls in. For you to label these scientists as people without "any common sense" or as people with less then "half a brain" is the same as preaching heresy from your current enviro-religious dogma. You may think your rolling eyes are innocent but they are actual rolling eyes of fascism where academics are pressured to go along with conventional wisdom for fear of being ostracized.
    BS44325 said:

    brianlux said:

    "To suggest that anyone who questions the current science is a heretic is fascism." Question all you want. You have that right. I've never said or even suggested you are not allowed to question anything. Yeah, sure, if I said, "BS, you are not allowed to question global warming", that would be a relatively fascist statement.

    Now as to why anyone with half a brain any any kind of common sense would argue with the 97% of scientists who agree that global warming is anthropogenic... rolling eyes, baby, rolling eyes.

    Many scientists can and do argue with the "97%" and the number disputing current science is growing everyday as new data rolls in. For you to label these scientists as people without "any common sense" or as people with less then "half a brain" is the same as preaching heresy from your current enviro-religious dogma. You may think your rolling eyes are innocent but they are actual rolling eyes of fascism where academics are pressured to go along with conventional wisdom for fear of being ostracized.
    The only scientists that are in the denial class are being directly paid to preach that. Paid to deny climate science usually for political reasons.
    You are proving my point.
    Fuck being ostracized for reporting truth. Bunch of cowards taking money for reporting false information. Integrity is everything. And there have been scientists who had been fired for standing up for the truth. They know the truth is better then a job.
  • what dreams
    what dreams Posts: 1,761
    We have been living in a corporate fascist country for a while. The corporations control everything. They have bought our government, they have bought us. Everything we Americans do is driven by consumerism. Even those of us who want to escape it can't.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    what dreams said:

    We have been living in a corporate fascist country for a while. The corporations control everything. They have bought our government, they have bought us. Everything we Americans do is driven by consumerism. Even those of us who want to escape it can't.

    You can get pretty disconnected from it if you so choose! For less than the price of a tiny condo in a large city you can buy a house with acreage in the country and get right.
    We live in a manufactured home on full basement with a 6 car barn and 5 acres near Amish country in Ohio...and it didn't even cost $100,000!!
    Consumerism is like a ghost around here, we here about it from idiots, but we never encounter it ourselves!

    Of course, the politics and operation of the system that surrounds our bubble is terrible, but you can create a bubble!
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • what dreams
    what dreams Posts: 1,761
    rgambs said:

    what dreams said:

    We have been living in a corporate fascist country for a while. The corporations control everything. They have bought our government, they have bought us. Everything we Americans do is driven by consumerism. Even those of us who want to escape it can't.

    You can get pretty disconnected from it if you so choose! For less than the price of a tiny condo in a large city you can buy a house with acreage in the country and get right.
    We live in a manufactured home on full basement with a 6 car barn and 5 acres near Amish country in Ohio...and it didn't even cost $100,000!!
    Consumerism is like a ghost around here, we here about it from idiots, but we never encounter it ourselves!

    Of course, the politics and operation of the system that surrounds our bubble is terrible, but you can create a bubble!
    It is possible to live a simple, quiet life, no doubt. In Amish country. But even those people have been commodified by the tourism industry.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    what dreams said:


    rgambs said:

    what dreams said:

    We have been living in a corporate fascist country for a while. The corporations control everything. They have bought our government, they have bought us. Everything we Americans do is driven by consumerism. Even those of us who want to escape it can't.

    You can get pretty disconnected from it if you so choose! For less than the price of a tiny condo in a large city you can buy a house with acreage in the country and get right.
    We live in a manufactured home on full basement with a 6 car barn and 5 acres near Amish country in Ohio...and it didn't even cost $100,000!!
    Consumerism is like a ghost around here, we here about it from idiots, but we never encounter it ourselves!

    Of course, the politics and operation of the system that surrounds our bubble is terrible, but you can create a bubble!
    It is possible to live a simple, quiet life, no doubt. In Amish country. But even those people have been commodified by the tourism industry.
    More so than the regular country folk like us for sure!
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,256
    I think there is a lot to fear from both the right and left. The far right can be racist and war hungry, and the far left can be very suppressive of free speech and non-left ideas (the bullies of all bullies).
  • myoung321
    myoung321 Posts: 2,855
    "Windrip is less a Nazi than a con-man-plus-Rotarian, a manipulator who knows how to appeal to people's desperation"

    Sound like someone???

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    "The heart and mind are the true lens of the camera." - Yusuf Karsh
     


  • WhatYouTaughtMe
    WhatYouTaughtMe Posts: 4,957
    edited March 2016
    bootlegger10 said:

    I think there is a lot to fear from both the right and left. The far right can be racist and war hungry, and the far left can be very suppressive of free speech and non-left ideas (the bullies of all bullies).

    ^^^This back and forth shifts a lot of focus from this...
    what dreams said:

    We have been living in a corporate fascist country for a while. The corporations control everything. They have bought our government, they have bought us. Everything we Americans do is driven by consumerism. Even those of us who want to escape it can't.

    It is by design. Do you think most of these politicians give a shit about abortion, gay marriage, and numerous other divisive issues? No. As long as they keep us fearful and hating each other, no monumental change in the structure of our gov't will come.
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  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    Fascism can't happen with protesters like these.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/03/20/a-topless-woman-interrupts-bernie-sanderss-rally-she-was-there-to-protest-donald-trump/?tid=hybrid_experimentrandom_3_na

    At a Bernie rally? Wow.
    Do we call this woman a thug or a protester, not sure.

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