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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Around 2,200 Palestinians - the majority of them non-combatants, according to the United Nations - were killed during the 50-day conflict, which also left 73 dead on the Israeli side. Around 18,000 Palestinian homes were destroyed or badly damaged.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/11372372/Israels-Gaza-house-bombing-policy-illegal-human-rights-group-says.html
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Yet this guy wants to go there?

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/03/world/middleeast/blacklisted-in-iran-gay-poet-seeks-asylum-in-israel.html?_r=2
  • rssesq
    rssesq Fairfield County Posts: 3,299
    do u know what family owns the NY times? lmao

    those reverse Serbian mind tricks don't work on me son
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,359
    JC29856 said:

    Around 2,200 Palestinians - the majority of them non-combatants, according to the United Nations - were killed during the 50-day conflict, which also left 73 dead on the Israeli side. Around 18,000 Palestinian homes were destroyed or badly damaged.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/11372372/Israels-Gaza-house-bombing-policy-illegal-human-rights-group-says.html

    So its safe to say there is a shortage of housing in Gaza, still. Correct?

    Heres the latest....
    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-israel-palestinians-idUSKCN0W41N9
    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said on Wednesday he hopes to curb a wave of Palestinian assaults by expelling to Gaza families of assailants found to have encouraged them to attack Israelis.

    Netanyahu, in a letter to Attorney-General Avichai Mandelblit released to the media, asked for a legal opinion on such a move, which he said would "lead to significant reduction in terrorist activities against the state and its citizens".

    Mandelblit, who assumed his post last month, and his predecessor have rejected similar expulsion proposals floated by right-wing cabinet ministers, political sources said.

    But with pressure growing on Netanyahu to take tougher action against violence now in its sixth month, he appeared to have little to lose politically by formally asking for Mandelblit's approval, even if it was unlikely to be granted.

    Since October, Palestinian stabbings, shootings and car rammings have killed 28 Israelis and a U.S. citizen. Israeli security forces have killed at least 172 Palestinians, 114 of whom Israel says were assailants, while most others were shot dead during violent protests.

    In the occupied West Bank, the Palestine Liberation Organisation condemned the expulsion proposal as "ethnic cleansing and collective punishment". Hamas, the Islamist movement that runs the Gaza Strip, said expulsions would "escalate the current Palestinian uprising".

    Israel Radio's legal analyst, Moshe Negbi, said expulsions from the West Bank and East Jerusalem, areas where most the violence has taken place, would be "ultra-illegal" and contravene international and Israeli law.

    Palestinian leaders say many Palestinian attackers have acted out of desperation in the absence of movement towards creation of an independent state.

    Israeli officials have said assailants are being incited to violence by their leaders and on social media. In his letter to Mandelblit, Netanyahu said some of their families had also been complicit.

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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,359
    I wonder if the residents of THESE homes have been deemed as co-conspirators to help jusify these illegal actions.....

    http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/03/israel-demolishes-dozens-palestinian-homes-bank-160304134304570.html

    Israeli forces have demolished dozens of structures, including a school, in the northern West Bank this week, leaving 10 families homeless, according to a new United Nations report.

    In as statement issued on Friday, the UN Coordinator for Humanitarian Assistance and Development Aid said the demolitions took place on Wednesday in the village of Khirbet Tana, south of Nablus in the northern West Bank.

    In total, 41 buildings were destroyed, displacing 36 Palestinians, including 11 children, the UN said.

    "These are some of the highest levels of demolition and displacement recorded in a similar timeframe since 2009," the statement said.

    READ MORE: House demolitions and Israel's 'court sanctioned revenge'

    Khirbet Tana is home to approximately 250 people who rely on herding and agriculture for their livelihood, according to the report.

    Because the residents need grazing land for their livestock, most have "little choice" but to stay in the area.

    "Due to the community’s location within an area declared as a 'firing zone' for training purposes, residents are denied building permits and have experienced repeated waves of demolitions, the last one taking place on February 9," the report said.

    Nickolay Mladenov, UN special coordinator for the Middle East peace process, said that last month the number of such demolitions had tripled on average since the start of the year.

    "Since the beginning of 2016, Israel has demolished, on average, 29 Palestinian-owned structures per week, three times the weekly average for 2015," he said.

    'Firing zones'

    Last week, the European Union hit out at Israeli authorities after they demolished a school funded by the French government.

    COGAT, the defence ministry body responsible for coordinating Israeli government activity in the Palestinian territories, put the number of buildings at 20.

    In the West Bank, an estimated 18 percent of the area has been declared by the Israeli authorities as "firing zones", and 38 Palestinian communities are located within these areas.


    'Collective punishment' targets Palestinians
    Because the Israeli Civil Administration prohibits building in these areas, wide-scale demolitions frequently take place.

    The Israeli military is also frequently accused of carrying out punitive demolitions against the family homes of individuals suspected of attacks against Israelis.

    While the Israeli military stopped punitive demolition orders in 2005, following reports by an Israeli military committee that the practice did not deter attacks, the practice was resumed in July 2014.

    Throughout occupied West Bank and East Jerusalem, some 90,000 Palestinians are facing potential displacement, according to the United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs.
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  • JC29856
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    https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/killing-gaza-a-documentary-feature#/
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Israel stealing Palestinian foreign aid.
    I'M SHOCKED!

    http://m.thenational.ae/opinion/comment/aid-subversion-report-makes-for-shocking-reading
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,359
    Because Democracy in the middle east!!!!
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/an-israeli-leader-wants-to-put-jerusalems-arabs-on-the-other-side-of-a-new-wall/2016/03/07/32bd089e-e16e-11e5-8c00-8aa03741dced_story.html
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,359
    3 Cheers for Democracy!!!! Yay!!!!!!!

    http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/02/palestinian-village-prison-160222055954973.html

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  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    rssesq said:

    do u know what family owns the NY times? lmao

    those reverse Serbian mind tricks don't work on me son

    What does this mean?
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Israel knows Obama won't bend over and open wide, so they will wait for Hillary to become president. Wait for the "defense aid" she signs, will be largest in history!
    Squeal like a pig.

    There was no immediate word from Netanyahu's office about the cancellation, which also comes as the two close allies are struggling to negotiate a new 10-year, multibillion-dollar defense aid agreement for Israel.
    Netanyahu and his aides suggested in February if Israel were unable to reach an accord with Obama, it could wait for the next president to secure better terms. Current U.S. defense aid to Israel, worth about $3 billion annually, expires in 2018. The two sides are seeking an extension before Obama leaves office in January 2017.

    http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0W92BR
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    There is a video from the link depicting "defense aid".

    http://www.palestinechronicle.com/israeli-soldiers-shoot-critically-injure-14-year-old-girl-graphic-video/

  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    JC29856 said:

    There is a video from the link depicting "defense aid".

    http://www.palestinechronicle.com/israeli-soldiers-shoot-critically-injure-14-year-old-girl-graphic-video/

    Well... my morning has gone from making fun of Ted Cruz's booger to becoming f**king outraged. I was warned.

    Just brutal.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • rssesq
    rssesq Fairfield County Posts: 3,299
    Hillary's only grandkid is a dually whose papa is a dually hedge fund boss whose father excongressman went to jail for fraud. We (USA) will be bled dry. There will be shiny new bridges, roads and superhighways throughout not only Israel but big huge WALLS in occupied lands as well, while our infrastructure decays and crumbles.
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited March 2016
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    JC29856 said:

    There is a video from the link depicting "defense aid".

    http://www.palestinechronicle.com/israeli-soldiers-shoot-critically-injure-14-year-old-girl-graphic-video/

    Well... my morning has gone from making fun of Ted Cruz's booger to becoming f**king outraged. I was warned.

    Just brutal.
    For those that may like seeing video or pictures of a 14 year old girl bleed out and die with an ambulance a few feet away Google yasmin rashad al-zarou.

    US taxpayer: another day another dollar less federal income taxes

    Israel: another day another $10,000,000 US taxpayer dollars and another dead Palestinian teenage terrorist
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  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    JC29856 said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    JC29856 said:

    There is a video from the link depicting "defense aid".

    http://www.palestinechronicle.com/israeli-soldiers-shoot-critically-injure-14-year-old-girl-graphic-video/

    Well... my morning has gone from making fun of Ted Cruz's booger to becoming f**king outraged. I was warned.

    Just brutal.
    For those that may like seeing video or pictures of a 14 year old girl bleed out and die with an ambulance a few feet away Google yasmin rashad al-zarou.

    US taxpayer: another day another dollar less federal income taxes

    Israel: another day another $10,000,000 US taxpayer dollars and another dead Palestinian teenage terrorist
    Bloodshed all around unfortunately

    http://news.yahoo.com/least-10-israelis-stabbed-tel-aviv-171626658.html;_ylt=AwrC1C5OCd9WkzcAH1nQtDMD;_ylu=X3oDMTByOHZyb21tBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzcg--
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617

    Israel: ultra high tech weaponry able to slaughter Palestinian teenagers from 200 yards away supplied and paid by US taxpayers

    Palestine: kitchen utensils against repressive occupiers at arms length
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    JC29856 said:


    Israel: ultra high tech weaponry able to slaughter Palestinian teenagers from 200 yards away supplied and paid by US taxpayers

    Palestine: kitchen utensils against repressive occupiers at arms length

    Better to use that high tech weaponry from 200 yards then let that kitchen utensil get within arms length
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    BS44325 said:

    JC29856 said:


    Israel: ultra high tech weaponry able to slaughter Palestinian teenagers from 200 yards away supplied and paid by US taxpayers

    Palestine: kitchen utensils against repressive occupiers at arms length

    Better to use that high tech weaponry from 200 yards then let that kitchen utensil get within arms length
    I'll describe real life the conversion I had with a Palestinian living under occupantion not for you but for those that may happen to read this. Remember this is real life not internet headlines.

    I asked why would anyone especially someone young attempt to stab IDF, Israeli guards with a knife, that would likely cause only superficial wounds if one were to get within reach (NOT CITIZENS)... Her reply paraphrased: The only thing I could compare it to for Americans to understand, remember the twin towers jumpers? Imagine the frame of mind at that moment, imagine that jumping from 87 floors high above concrete is your only escape, 202 of them, it's that bad. Like the towers what we had was turned into rubble.
  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    edited March 2016
    Extra judicial assassinations in occupied territories constitute a war crime....that's what BS is advocating by saying 'better to use that high tech weaponry from 200 yards'. Non-lethal force is an option in these situations, but the IDF prefers to just gun anyone down.

    On top of that, there have been several incidents of the IDF being accused of planting the knives after the fact....the shooting at the Hebron checkpoint a few months back was blamed on a knife threat, tho eyewitnesses claimed they saw no knife (in this case, the palestinian girl was allowed to bleed out while israeli emt's watched).
    There was another instance in which a scuffle between protestors and IDF members was filmed...you can hear the IDF soldiers asking each other if they should go get a knife....having trouble finding this video, but it was recent.
    Then there are these two incidents:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKpJWyt3XMM
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YN-vhGwVMi0

    and another example of a girl surrounded by police and assassinated as if there was no other option:
    (graphic?)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YL0gHND9bTc

    There are two separate issues here:
    -Is the IDF using excessive force by shooting to kill?
    -How accurate are IDF reports on these stabbings? Are they framing palestinians to justify their own crimes?
    No one will deny these attacks take place. But if they are using excessive force, and in some cases framing palestinians, can we trust IDF claims of rocket attacks etc that always justify major military operations?

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