Huge Explosion at Japanese Nuclear Plant

mickeyrat said:

PJ_Soul said:

mickeyrat said:

Many of dont regard this risk as minimal.
That said it is a functional means of power.

I don't regard the the risk as minimal either right now. If you were paying attention, you would know that I'm talking about IF they can make it much safer than it is now (sorry, I'm in a pissy mood. But come on - I think I am pretty clear here).

The "if ..." slipped past me.

Imo the fact that human beings are involved, leads me to believe that the risk is too great. Quite simply human beings cannot be trusted with such a thing.

Hmm. Well I see you point, but if we trust them to build skyscrapers, drive cars on roads, build bridges, drill and transport oil, use fire and electricity and heavy machinery, and travel in space, I think scientists could manage to come up with safeguards/technology that can basically guarantee containment in a nuclear plant. They are indeed working on it. I recently read that force field technology is experiencing a breakthrough right now. Perhaps that kind of thing could be used, among other technologies. Who knows. Humans are actually pretty damn good at finding ways to make improvements.

brianlux said:

PJ_Soul said:

mickeyrat said:

PJ_Soul said:

mickeyrat said:

Many of dont regard this risk as minimal.
That said it is a functional means of power.

I don't regard the the risk as minimal either right now. If you were paying attention, you would know that I'm talking about IF they can make it much safer than it is now (sorry, I'm in a pissy mood. But come on - I think I am pretty clear here).

The "if ..." slipped past me.

Imo the fact that human beings are involved, leads me to believe that the risk is too great. Quite simply human beings cannot be trusted with such a thing.

Hmm. Well I see you point, but if we trust them to build skyscrapers, drive cars on roads, build bridges, drill and transport oil, use fire and electricity and heavy machinery, and travel in space, I think scientists could manage to come up with safeguards/technology that can basically guarantee containment in a nuclear plant. They are indeed working on it. I recently read that force field technology is experiencing a breakthrough right now. Perhaps that kind of thing could be used, among other technologies. Who knows. Humans are actually pretty damn good at finding ways to make improvements.

The only technology regarding nuclear power that would convince me it is safe would be finding a way to neutralize the radioactive spent fuel rods, not safely store them, and I have heard nothing to lead me to believe we are even close to that kind of technology. And I don't see how storing anything that toxic can ever truly be considered safe. Where is it OK to do that? Who's backyard (and by that, as a biocentric, I mean all living thing's backyards) is that OK to use for storage? Where will it ever truly be safe? And remember, that stuff has an insanely long half life.

It will be safe when we build a canon that fires the rods into space cleanly lol

PJ_Soul said:

brianlux said:

PJ_Soul said:

mickeyrat said:

PJ_Soul said:

mickeyrat said:

Many of dont regard this risk as minimal.
That said it is a functional means of power.

I don't regard the the risk as minimal either right now. If you were paying attention, you would know that I'm talking about IF they can make it much safer than it is now (sorry, I'm in a pissy mood. But come on - I think I am pretty clear here).

The "if ..." slipped past me.

Imo the fact that human beings are involved, leads me to believe that the risk is too great. Quite simply human beings cannot be trusted with such a thing.

Hmm. Well I see you point, but if we trust them to build skyscrapers, drive cars on roads, build bridges, drill and transport oil, use fire and electricity and heavy machinery, and travel in space, I think scientists could manage to come up with safeguards/technology that can basically guarantee containment in a nuclear plant. They are indeed working on it. I recently read that force field technology is experiencing a breakthrough right now. Perhaps that kind of thing could be used, among other technologies. Who knows. Humans are actually pretty damn good at finding ways to make improvements.

The only technology regarding nuclear power that would convince me it is safe would be finding a way to neutralize the radioactive spent fuel rods, not safely store them, and I have heard nothing to lead me to believe we are even close to that kind of technology. And I don't see how storing anything that toxic can ever truly be considered safe. Where is it OK to do that? Who's backyard (and by that, as a biocentric, I mean all living thing's backyards) is that OK to use for storage? Where will it ever truly be safe? And remember, that stuff has an insanely long half life.

But you have to think of it comparatively. Imagine how much GOOD nuclear power could do for the world long term, vs. the issue of safely storing spent fuel rods (until they figure out an alternative). Assuming they can reasonably guarantee they are safely stored (and this is definitely not the biggest danger posed currently), I think it's a reasonable risk/trade-off.

I still don't agree but your hearts in the right place, PJ_Soul. That kind of optimism makes me glow like a spent fuel rod.

But don't read anything into that and please, no joke about my age. :rofl:

mickeyrat said:

brianlux said:

PJ_Soul said:

brianlux said:

PJ_Soul said:

mickeyrat said:

PJ_Soul said:

mickeyrat said:

Many of dont regard this risk as minimal.
That said it is a functional means of power.

I don't regard the the risk as minimal either right now. If you were paying attention, you would know that I'm talking about IF they can make it much safer than it is now (sorry, I'm in a pissy mood. But come on - I think I am pretty clear here).

The "if ..." slipped past me.

Imo the fact that human beings are involved, leads me to believe that the risk is too great. Quite simply human beings cannot be trusted with such a thing.

Hmm. Well I see you point, but if we trust them to build skyscrapers, drive cars on roads, build bridges, drill and transport oil, use fire and electricity and heavy machinery, and travel in space, I think scientists could manage to come up with safeguards/technology that can basically guarantee containment in a nuclear plant. They are indeed working on it. I recently read that force field technology is experiencing a breakthrough right now. Perhaps that kind of thing could be used, among other technologies. Who knows. Humans are actually pretty damn good at finding ways to make improvements.

The only technology regarding nuclear power that would convince me it is safe would be finding a way to neutralize the radioactive spent fuel rods, not safely store them, and I have heard nothing to lead me to believe we are even close to that kind of technology. And I don't see how storing anything that toxic can ever truly be considered safe. Where is it OK to do that? Who's backyard (and by that, as a biocentric, I mean all living thing's backyards) is that OK to use for storage? Where will it ever truly be safe? And remember, that stuff has an insanely long half life.

But you have to think of it comparatively. Imagine how much GOOD nuclear power could do for the world long term, vs. the issue of safely storing spent fuel rods (until they figure out an alternative). Assuming they can reasonably guarantee they are safely stored (and this is definitely not the biggest danger posed currently), I think it's a reasonable risk/trade-off.

I still don't agree but your hearts in the right place, PJ_Soul. That kind of optimism makes me glow like a spent fuel rod.

But don't read anything into that and please, no joke about my age. :rofl:

Which is to say you are still a dangerous man?

Or that your rod is just spent?

Haha! Hey, I only take after the best. Me 'n Rush: