Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
I'm not 100% against nuclear power. Only 99.999999999999999999% against it.
Pray to the gods for no more major earthquakes on the ring of fire for a while. Japan is freaking insane for building those plants in that geographic region.
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
I am actually 95% FOR nuclear power. I withhold that 5% because of what this thread is about. However, I've read that technology has had big advances as far as safety and disaster prevention goes since the Fukushima plant was built. I am really hoping that such safety measures lead to more widespread use of nuclear power very very soon.
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
I am actually 95% FOR nuclear power. I withhold that 5% because of what this thread is about. However, I've read that technology has had big advances as far as safety and disaster prevention goes since the Fukushima plant was built. I am really hoping that such safety measures lead to more widespread use of nuclear power very very soon.
I'm not much on conspiracy theories, but I read a while back about how much radiation was spewed out and is still present. The article claimed that high levels were being measured in Pacific fish and milk coming from the west coast. I'll try and find the article and post it here. Makes you wonder...there is plenty motive to cover up such things.
I am actually 95% FOR nuclear power. I withhold that 5% because of what this thread is about. However, I've read that technology has had big advances as far as safety and disaster prevention goes since the Fukushima plant was built. I am really hoping that such safety measures lead to more widespread use of nuclear power very very soon.
I'm not much on conspiracy theories, but I read a while back about how much radiation was spewed out and is still present. The article claimed that high levels were being measured in Pacific fish and milk coming from the west coast. I'll try and find the article and post it here. Makes you wonder...there is plenty motive to cover up such things.
Yes, of course there is motive to cover these things up (although I have seen news talking about serious damage, so there isn't a total cover up - just wouldn't surprise me at all if it's worse than they are saying). Same with Chernobyl I'm sure. That doesn't impact my potential support of nuclear power if technology makes it safer. I don't see why anyone would oppose nuclear power if technological advancement made it safe, which is obviously the intent.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Many of dont regard this risk as minimal. That said it is a functional means of power.
I don't regard the the risk as minimal either right now. If you were paying attention, you would know that I'm talking about IF they can make it much safer than it is now (sorry, I'm in a pissy mood. But come on - I think I am pretty clear here).
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Many of dont regard this risk as minimal. That said it is a functional means of power.
I don't regard the the risk as minimal either right now. If you were paying attention, you would know that I'm talking about IF they can make it much safer than it is now (sorry, I'm in a pissy mood. But come on - I think I am pretty clear here).
The "if ..." slipped past me.
Imo the fact that human beings are involved, leads me to believe that the risk is too great. Quite simply human beings cannot be trusted with such a thing.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Many of dont regard this risk as minimal. That said it is a functional means of power.
I don't regard the the risk as minimal either right now. If you were paying attention, you would know that I'm talking about IF they can make it much safer than it is now (sorry, I'm in a pissy mood. But come on - I think I am pretty clear here).
The "if ..." slipped past me.
Imo the fact that human beings are involved, leads me to believe that the risk is too great. Quite simply human beings cannot be trusted with such a thing.
Hmm. Well I see you point, but if we trust them to build skyscrapers, drive cars on roads, build bridges, drill and transport oil, use fire and electricity and heavy machinery, and travel in space, I think scientists could manage to come up with safeguards/technology that can basically guarantee containment in a nuclear plant. They are indeed working on it. I recently read that force field technology is experiencing a breakthrough right now. Perhaps that kind of thing could be used, among other technologies. Who knows. Humans are actually pretty damn good at finding ways to make improvements.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Many of dont regard this risk as minimal. That said it is a functional means of power.
I don't regard the the risk as minimal either right now. If you were paying attention, you would know that I'm talking about IF they can make it much safer than it is now (sorry, I'm in a pissy mood. But come on - I think I am pretty clear here).
The "if ..." slipped past me.
Imo the fact that human beings are involved, leads me to believe that the risk is too great. Quite simply human beings cannot be trusted with such a thing.
Hmm. Well I see you point, but if we trust them to build skyscrapers, drive cars on roads, build bridges, drill and transport oil, use fire and electricity and heavy machinery, and travel in space, I think scientists could manage to come up with safeguards/technology that can basically guarantee containment in a nuclear plant. They are indeed working on it. I recently read that force field technology is experiencing a breakthrough right now. Perhaps that kind of thing could be used, among other technologies. Who knows. Humans are actually pretty damn good at finding ways to make improvements.
The only technology regarding nuclear power that would convince me it is safe would be finding a way to neutralize the radioactive spent fuel rods, not safely store them, and I have heard nothing to lead me to believe we are even close to that kind of technology. And I don't see how storing anything that toxic can ever truly be considered safe. Where is it OK to do that? Who's backyard (and by that, as a biocentric, I mean all living thing's backyards) is that OK to use for storage? Where will it ever truly be safe? And remember, that stuff has an insanely long half life.
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
Many of dont regard this risk as minimal. That said it is a functional means of power.
I don't regard the the risk as minimal either right now. If you were paying attention, you would know that I'm talking about IF they can make it much safer than it is now (sorry, I'm in a pissy mood. But come on - I think I am pretty clear here).
The "if ..." slipped past me.
Imo the fact that human beings are involved, leads me to believe that the risk is too great. Quite simply human beings cannot be trusted with such a thing.
Hmm. Well I see you point, but if we trust them to build skyscrapers, drive cars on roads, build bridges, drill and transport oil, use fire and electricity and heavy machinery, and travel in space, I think scientists could manage to come up with safeguards/technology that can basically guarantee containment in a nuclear plant. They are indeed working on it. I recently read that force field technology is experiencing a breakthrough right now. Perhaps that kind of thing could be used, among other technologies. Who knows. Humans are actually pretty damn good at finding ways to make improvements.
The only technology regarding nuclear power that would convince me it is safe would be finding a way to neutralize the radioactive spent fuel rods, not safely store them, and I have heard nothing to lead me to believe we are even close to that kind of technology. And I don't see how storing anything that toxic can ever truly be considered safe. Where is it OK to do that? Who's backyard (and by that, as a biocentric, I mean all living thing's backyards) is that OK to use for storage? Where will it ever truly be safe? And remember, that stuff has an insanely long half life.
It will be safe when we build a canon that fires the rods into space cleanly lol
Many of dont regard this risk as minimal. That said it is a functional means of power.
I don't regard the the risk as minimal either right now. If you were paying attention, you would know that I'm talking about IF they can make it much safer than it is now (sorry, I'm in a pissy mood. But come on - I think I am pretty clear here).
The "if ..." slipped past me.
Imo the fact that human beings are involved, leads me to believe that the risk is too great. Quite simply human beings cannot be trusted with such a thing.
Hmm. Well I see you point, but if we trust them to build skyscrapers, drive cars on roads, build bridges, drill and transport oil, use fire and electricity and heavy machinery, and travel in space, I think scientists could manage to come up with safeguards/technology that can basically guarantee containment in a nuclear plant. They are indeed working on it. I recently read that force field technology is experiencing a breakthrough right now. Perhaps that kind of thing could be used, among other technologies. Who knows. Humans are actually pretty damn good at finding ways to make improvements.
The only technology regarding nuclear power that would convince me it is safe would be finding a way to neutralize the radioactive spent fuel rods, not safely store them, and I have heard nothing to lead me to believe we are even close to that kind of technology. And I don't see how storing anything that toxic can ever truly be considered safe. Where is it OK to do that? Who's backyard (and by that, as a biocentric, I mean all living thing's backyards) is that OK to use for storage? Where will it ever truly be safe? And remember, that stuff has an insanely long half life.
But you have to think of it comparatively. Imagine how much GOOD nuclear power could do for the world long term, vs. the issue of safely storing spent fuel rods (until they figure out an alternative). Assuming they can reasonably guarantee they are safely stored (and this is definitely not the biggest danger posed currently), I think it's a reasonable risk/trade-off.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Many of dont regard this risk as minimal. That said it is a functional means of power.
I don't regard the the risk as minimal either right now. If you were paying attention, you would know that I'm talking about IF they can make it much safer than it is now (sorry, I'm in a pissy mood. But come on - I think I am pretty clear here).
The "if ..." slipped past me.
Imo the fact that human beings are involved, leads me to believe that the risk is too great. Quite simply human beings cannot be trusted with such a thing.
Hmm. Well I see you point, but if we trust them to build skyscrapers, drive cars on roads, build bridges, drill and transport oil, use fire and electricity and heavy machinery, and travel in space, I think scientists could manage to come up with safeguards/technology that can basically guarantee containment in a nuclear plant. They are indeed working on it. I recently read that force field technology is experiencing a breakthrough right now. Perhaps that kind of thing could be used, among other technologies. Who knows. Humans are actually pretty damn good at finding ways to make improvements.
The only technology regarding nuclear power that would convince me it is safe would be finding a way to neutralize the radioactive spent fuel rods, not safely store them, and I have heard nothing to lead me to believe we are even close to that kind of technology. And I don't see how storing anything that toxic can ever truly be considered safe. Where is it OK to do that? Who's backyard (and by that, as a biocentric, I mean all living thing's backyards) is that OK to use for storage? Where will it ever truly be safe? And remember, that stuff has an insanely long half life.
But you have to think of it comparatively. Imagine how much GOOD nuclear power could do for the world long term, vs. the issue of safely storing spent fuel rods (until they figure out an alternative). Assuming they can reasonably guarantee they are safely stored (and this is definitely not the biggest danger posed currently), I think it's a reasonable risk/trade-off.
I still don't agree but your hearts in the right place, PJ_Soul. That kind of optimism makes me glow like a spent fuel rod.
But don't read anything into that and please, no joke about my age.
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
Many of dont regard this risk as minimal. That said it is a functional means of power.
I don't regard the the risk as minimal either right now. If you were paying attention, you would know that I'm talking about IF they can make it much safer than it is now (sorry, I'm in a pissy mood. But come on - I think I am pretty clear here).
The "if ..." slipped past me.
Imo the fact that human beings are involved, leads me to believe that the risk is too great. Quite simply human beings cannot be trusted with such a thing.
Hmm. Well I see you point, but if we trust them to build skyscrapers, drive cars on roads, build bridges, drill and transport oil, use fire and electricity and heavy machinery, and travel in space, I think scientists could manage to come up with safeguards/technology that can basically guarantee containment in a nuclear plant. They are indeed working on it. I recently read that force field technology is experiencing a breakthrough right now. Perhaps that kind of thing could be used, among other technologies. Who knows. Humans are actually pretty damn good at finding ways to make improvements.
The only technology regarding nuclear power that would convince me it is safe would be finding a way to neutralize the radioactive spent fuel rods, not safely store them, and I have heard nothing to lead me to believe we are even close to that kind of technology. And I don't see how storing anything that toxic can ever truly be considered safe. Where is it OK to do that? Who's backyard (and by that, as a biocentric, I mean all living thing's backyards) is that OK to use for storage? Where will it ever truly be safe? And remember, that stuff has an insanely long half life.
But you have to think of it comparatively. Imagine how much GOOD nuclear power could do for the world long term, vs. the issue of safely storing spent fuel rods (until they figure out an alternative). Assuming they can reasonably guarantee they are safely stored (and this is definitely not the biggest danger posed currently), I think it's a reasonable risk/trade-off.
I still don't agree but your hearts in the right place, PJ_Soul. That kind of optimism makes me glow like a spent fuel rod.
But don't read anything into that and please, no joke about my age.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Many of dont regard this risk as minimal. That said it is a functional means of power.
I don't regard the the risk as minimal either right now. If you were paying attention, you would know that I'm talking about IF they can make it much safer than it is now (sorry, I'm in a pissy mood. But come on - I think I am pretty clear here).
The "if ..." slipped past me.
Imo the fact that human beings are involved, leads me to believe that the risk is too great. Quite simply human beings cannot be trusted with such a thing.
Hmm. Well I see you point, but if we trust them to build skyscrapers, drive cars on roads, build bridges, drill and transport oil, use fire and electricity and heavy machinery, and travel in space, I think scientists could manage to come up with safeguards/technology that can basically guarantee containment in a nuclear plant. They are indeed working on it. I recently read that force field technology is experiencing a breakthrough right now. Perhaps that kind of thing could be used, among other technologies. Who knows. Humans are actually pretty damn good at finding ways to make improvements.
The only technology regarding nuclear power that would convince me it is safe would be finding a way to neutralize the radioactive spent fuel rods, not safely store them, and I have heard nothing to lead me to believe we are even close to that kind of technology. And I don't see how storing anything that toxic can ever truly be considered safe. Where is it OK to do that? Who's backyard (and by that, as a biocentric, I mean all living thing's backyards) is that OK to use for storage? Where will it ever truly be safe? And remember, that stuff has an insanely long half life.
But you have to think of it comparatively. Imagine how much GOOD nuclear power could do for the world long term, vs. the issue of safely storing spent fuel rods (until they figure out an alternative). Assuming they can reasonably guarantee they are safely stored (and this is definitely not the biggest danger posed currently), I think it's a reasonable risk/trade-off.
I still don't agree but your hearts in the right place, PJ_Soul. That kind of optimism makes me glow like a spent fuel rod.
But don't read anything into that and please, no joke about my age.
Which is to say you are still a dangerous man?
Or that your rod is just spent?
Haha! Hey, I only take after the best. Me 'n Rush:
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
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Will take decades to fully decommission this reactor.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/five-years-after-nuclear-meltdown-no-one-knows-what-to-do-with-fukushima/2016/02/10/a9682194-c9dc-11e5-b9ab-26591104bb19_story.html
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Pray to the gods for no more major earthquakes on the ring of fire for a while. Japan is freaking insane for building those plants in that geographic region.
All you are talking about is minimizing risk to a small degree.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
That said it is a functional means of power.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Imo the fact that human beings are involved, leads me to believe that the risk is too great. Quite simply human beings cannot be trusted with such a thing.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
But don't read anything into that and please, no joke about my age.
Or that your rod is just spent?
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14