I would just like one question answered. I was under the assumption that initially this lottery system was set up to even the playing field and make it more fair, my question is, how can people be winning both nights to Fenway while others lose both nights?
The explanation is in this thread in a few spots, basically night 1 the 1st priority requests exceeded the amount of tickets available. Some folks with night 1 as 1st priority lost, all with priority 2 and beyond lost. Night 2 more tickets than 1st priority requests. so some folks were drawn with Priority 2.
2 shows are drawn independent of one another. So if you entered for both and had priority 1 as 8/5, you had a chance to win 0,1 or 2 nights, if you entered both in reverse priority (8/7 1st), you won night 2 but lost night 1.
All I know is I've talked to atleast 10 people who put in the same exact order as I did and entered the drawing after I did and they all won atleast one and some won both shows while I lost on both. Sorry still bitter! And regardless of what I hear my opinion is that the lottery still needs improvement.
That sucks. Just for reference, it makes no difference when you enter the lottery. You can enter in the first 5 minutes or the last 5 minutes, it does not matter at all.
As for the other issues...it seems that Fenway Night 1 was the biggest demand.
So, lets split these 10 people into 2 groups, group A and group B. Group A put Night 1 as their first preference, and night 2 as 2nd preference. Group B put night 2 as their 1st preference, and night 1 as their 2nd preference.
So, it would seem that Group B would ALL get their night 2 selections, but not get night 1. Meanwhile, Group A....only a few would get Night 1, and some would get night 2. Randomly. If you put Night 1 as your 1st, you could miss out on both.
All ten people put in the same exact prefrence order
Yes night 1 first - its been explained.
Yeah quite the solid explaination, thanks. Why would I think some people winning both nights at Fenway while others lose both nights isn't fair? What's wrong with me
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2005: Montreal, Ottawa, Quebec
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2008: Bonnaroo, Camden I&II, Hartford, Mansfield I&II
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Pearl Jam Boston PRIORITY DATE CITY PRICE/PAIR STATUS 1st choice 08/05/2016 Boston, MA- Reserved Seating $188.00 WON 2nd choice 08/07/2016 Boston, MA- Reserved Seating $188.00 WON TOTAL CHARGED $376.00
Well, based on this, people who chose 8/7/2016 as first choice should win.
Yes, have yet to hear of anyone losing 8/7 as 1st priority.
Haven't lost with 8/7 as 1st choice, but havent won either- still tba...
I would just like one question answered. I was under the assumption that initially this lottery system was set up to even the playing field and make it more fair, my question is, how can people be winning both nights to Fenway while others lose both nights?
The explanation is in this thread in a few spots, basically night 1 the 1st priority requests exceeded the amount of tickets available. Some folks with night 1 as 1st priority lost, all with priority 2 and beyond lost. Night 2 more tickets than 1st priority requests. so some folks were drawn with Priority 2.
2 shows are drawn independent of one another. So if you entered for both and had priority 1 as 8/5, you had a chance to win 0,1 or 2 nights, if you entered both in reverse priority (8/7 1st), you won night 2 but lost night 1.
All I know is I've talked to atleast 10 people who put in the same exact order as I did and entered the drawing after I did and they all won atleast one and some won both shows while I lost on both. Sorry still bitter! And regardless of what I hear my opinion is that the lottery still needs improvement.
That sucks. Just for reference, it makes no difference when you enter the lottery. You can enter in the first 5 minutes or the last 5 minutes, it does not matter at all.
As for the other issues...it seems that Fenway Night 1 was the biggest demand.
So, lets split these 10 people into 2 groups, group A and group B. Group A put Night 1 as their first preference, and night 2 as 2nd preference. Group B put night 2 as their 1st preference, and night 1 as their 2nd preference.
So, it would seem that Group B would ALL get their night 2 selections, but not get night 1. Meanwhile, Group A....only a few would get Night 1, and some would get night 2. Randomly. If you put Night 1 as your 1st, you could miss out on both.
All ten people put in the same exact prefrence order
Yes night 1 first - its been explained.
Yeah quite the solid explaination, thanks. Why would I think some people winning both nights at Fenway while others lose both nights isn't fair? What's wrong with me
from what i see around...one thing is sure..odds are talking to members....they tell u whats the best option to score tix,,its really great tool
I agree, but it only shows so much as the odds are all inclusive of every priority level. For the tool to truly be useful, they should break down the odds by priority level. This would be quite a simple adjustment in the equation used.
For instance based on what I am seeing, here are my guesses at what the odds would have looked like for Fenway had they been broken out.
i agree,,would be even better from the other hand,if u see a show with 95% well..u will get it with your 1st or second or 3rd priority..so u could try play the lotto for more difficult show as 1st priority.. for exable,seated at wrigley 2 had great odds..so,u could try the ga and if not score,u would get the seated
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So has ANYONE won both Fenway shows by ranking the first night #2 and the second night #1?
I'd like to know this too.(good question)
i dint see anyone anywhere at social media
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I would just like one question answered. I was under the assumption that initially this lottery system was set up to even the playing field and make it more fair, my question is, how can people be winning both nights to Fenway while others lose both nights?
The explanation is in this thread in a few spots, basically night 1 the 1st priority requests exceeded the amount of tickets available. Some folks with night 1 as 1st priority lost, all with priority 2 and beyond lost. Night 2 more tickets than 1st priority requests. so some folks were drawn with Priority 2.
2 shows are drawn independent of one another. So if you entered for both and had priority 1 as 8/5, you had a chance to win 0,1 or 2 nights, if you entered both in reverse priority (8/7 1st), you won night 2 but lost night 1.
All I know is I've talked to atleast 10 people who put in the same exact order as I did and entered the drawing after I did and they all won atleast one and some won both shows while I lost on both. Sorry still bitter! And regardless of what I hear my opinion is that the lottery still needs improvement.
That sucks. Just for reference, it makes no difference when you enter the lottery. You can enter in the first 5 minutes or the last 5 minutes, it does not matter at all.
As for the other issues...it seems that Fenway Night 1 was the biggest demand.
So, lets split these 10 people into 2 groups, group A and group B. Group A put Night 1 as their first preference, and night 2 as 2nd preference. Group B put night 2 as their 1st preference, and night 1 as their 2nd preference.
So, it would seem that Group B would ALL get their night 2 selections, but not get night 1. Meanwhile, Group A....only a few would get Night 1, and some would get night 2. Randomly. If you put Night 1 as your 1st, you could miss out on both.
All ten people put in the same exact prefrence order
Yes night 1 first - its been explained.
Yeah quite the solid explaination, thanks. Why would I think some people winning both nights at Fenway while others lose both nights isn't fair? What's wrong with me
For people who misunderstand how this lottery works, yes I do feel bad. I personally entered Night 1 first because I knew it would give me a better shot at winning tickets to both shows, but also that it meant I might lose both. Felt like Night 2 was obviously the less popular option and a guaranteed win as first priority. I've spent my time complaining on here but honestly I have nobody to blame but myself.
I am the biggest asshole, I wanted reserved seating for Wrigley night two, and I literally noticed right after the draw closed that I clicked GA. AHHHHHH. We were planing a summer trip to Chicago, I am utterly heartbroken,
I will almost certainly have two extras for this night; don't lose hope.
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Boston 1 was my first choice and I won Boston 2 was my second choice and I lost Would have loved to win both, but am still very happy.
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Hartford 10 Boston 10 Wrigley 13 Worcester I 13 Worcester II 13 Hartford 13
NYC I 16 NYC II 16 Fenway I 16 Fenway II 16 Fenway 1 18 Fenway II 18
E.V. Boston II 08 E.V. Albany II 09 E.V. Providence 11, E.V. Boston 11
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10 MSG II
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16 Phillie II
I would just like one question answered. I was under the assumption that initially this lottery system was set up to even the playing field and make it more fair, my question is, how can people be winning both nights to Fenway while others lose both nights?
The explanation is in this thread in a few spots, basically night 1 the 1st priority requests exceeded the amount of tickets available. Some folks with night 1 as 1st priority lost, all with priority 2 and beyond lost. Night 2 more tickets than 1st priority requests. so some folks were drawn with Priority 2.
2 shows are drawn independent of one another. So if you entered for both and had priority 1 as 8/5, you had a chance to win 0,1 or 2 nights, if you entered both in reverse priority (8/7 1st), you won night 2 but lost night 1.
All I know is I've talked to atleast 10 people who put in the same exact order as I did and entered the drawing after I did and they all won atleast one and some won both shows while I lost on both. Sorry still bitter! And regardless of what I hear my opinion is that the lottery still needs improvement.
That sucks. Just for reference, it makes no difference when you enter the lottery. You can enter in the first 5 minutes or the last 5 minutes, it does not matter at all.
As for the other issues...it seems that Fenway Night 1 was the biggest demand.
So, lets split these 10 people into 2 groups, group A and group B. Group A put Night 1 as their first preference, and night 2 as 2nd preference. Group B put night 2 as their 1st preference, and night 1 as their 2nd preference.
So, it would seem that Group B would ALL get their night 2 selections, but not get night 1. Meanwhile, Group A....only a few would get Night 1, and some would get night 2. Randomly. If you put Night 1 as your 1st, you could miss out on both.
All ten people put in the same exact prefrence order
Yes night 1 first - its been explained.
Yeah quite the solid explaination, thanks. Why would I think some people winning both nights at Fenway while others lose both nights isn't fair? What's wrong with me
I think what people are trying to explain is.....night 1 was in higher demand....
Dont think about the odds for a moment....those odds dont give a true indicator.
Lets say there is 1 ticket available for each show: Chicago Boston New York
And I put my preference as 1st Chicago 2nd Boston 3rd NY
Then my friend puts their preference as 1st New York 2nd Chicago 3rd Boston
Then you put your preference as this: 1st Chicago 2nd New York 3rd Boston
So, for all shows, they would say 33% chance of winning. So, the lottery happens for Chicago....and there is only 1 ticket, I win it. Now, we move on to New York. The friend is the only one with NY as their 1st, so they win it. Now, move on to Boston....You got shut out twice, but have Boston as your last show...I have Boston as my 2nd priority, so it will give the ticket to me.
Thats How I end up with 2, and the friend gets 1, and you get none.
So, Night 1 for boston there was a TON of "1st Priority" selections. Night 2 for Boston, there was much less.
So you could be lucky and get night 1, and then an easier Night 2 ticket. Or you could have put night 2 first, and assured yourself of a ticket. But since night 1 went quick, you missed out. Now anyone who put night 2 as their first gets first crack at night 2. Then anything left over, is thrown into the mix.
My status still showing as 'Entered'. No e-mail as of yet.
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2000: Mansfield I&II, Montreal
2003: Las Vegas, Toronto, Montreal, Mansfield I&III
2005: Montreal, Ottawa, Quebec
2006: Albany, Hartford, Boston I&II
2007: Lollapalooza
2008: Bonnaroo, Camden I&II, Hartford, Mansfield I&II
2009: Philadelphia III&IV
2010: Hartford, Boston, New York City II
2011: Alpine Valley I&II
2013: Buffalo, Worcester I&II, Hartford, Los Angeles I&II
2014: Tulsa, Lincoln
2016: New York City I&II, Quebec City, Boston I&II, Chicago I&II
2017: New York
2018: Seattle I&II, Boston I&II
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Good luck everyone it will be a great night!
from the other hand,if u see a show with 95% well..u will get it with your 1st or second or 3rd priority..so u could try play the lotto for more difficult show as 1st priority..
for exable,seated at wrigley 2 had great odds..so,u could try the ga and if not score,u would get the seated
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“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
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2005 - Ottawa, Toronto, Halifax
2006 - Toronto 1, Toronto 2
2009 - Toronto
2011 - Montreal, Toronto 1, Toronto 2, Ottawa
2016 - Ottawa, Fenway 1
2018 - Fenway 1
2020 - Ottawa
2008 - EV Solo Montreal
MTL 9/15/05
HRTFD 5/13/06
BOS 5/24/06, 5/25/06
VEGAS 7/6/06
CHI 8/5/07
NJ 6/19/08
NYC 6/25/08
HRTFD 6/27/08
MANSFLD 6/28/08, 6/30/08
E.V. BOS 8/1/08
CHI 8/23/09, 8/24/09
PHILLY 10/30/09, 10/31/09
BOS 5/17/10
CHI 7/19/13
WOOSTA 10/15/13, 10/16/13
HRTFD 10/25/13
BOS 8/5/16, 8/7/16
BOS 9/2/18, 9/4/18
Based on what I see, you should be fine! I will have to rely on the 10c ticket lotto gods!
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Boston 2 was my second choice and I lost
Would have loved to win both, but am still very happy.
Hartford 10 Boston 10 Wrigley 13 Worcester I 13 Worcester II 13 Hartford 13
NYC I 16 NYC II 16 Fenway I 16 Fenway II 16 Fenway 1 18 Fenway II 18
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10 MSG II
13 Wrigley Field
16 Phillie II
My preference was Fenway 1 first choice and Fenway 2 second choice.
Dont think about the odds for a moment....those odds dont give a true indicator.
Lets say there is 1 ticket available for each show:
Chicago
Boston
New York
And I put my preference as
1st Chicago
2nd Boston
3rd NY
Then my friend puts their preference as
1st New York
2nd Chicago
3rd Boston
Then you put your preference as this:
1st Chicago
2nd New York
3rd Boston
So, for all shows, they would say 33% chance of winning.
So, the lottery happens for Chicago....and there is only 1 ticket, I win it.
Now, we move on to New York. The friend is the only one with NY as their 1st, so they win it.
Now, move on to Boston....You got shut out twice, but have Boston as your last show...I have Boston as my 2nd priority, so it will give the ticket to me.
Thats How I end up with 2, and the friend gets 1, and you get none.
So, Night 1 for boston there was a TON of "1st Priority" selections.
Night 2 for Boston, there was much less.
So you could be lucky and get night 1, and then an easier Night 2 ticket.
Or you could have put night 2 first, and assured yourself of a ticket.
But since night 1 went quick, you missed out. Now anyone who put night 2 as their first gets first crack at night 2. Then anything left over, is thrown into the mix.
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2010 Dublin / London
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