Solid work from the ten club.

LukinFan · January 2016

I miss the days of them just putting them up for sale, but I guess the lottery is better than everyone bitching about the site crashing.

kingmatt · January 2016

100 Pacer said:
...When you've been in the 10C for 20+ years and add up total membership dues vs. the experiences and memories made at past shows I feel as though I've cheated the 10C in a way. A minor bump on the road doesn't ruin an entire road trip.

This might be the best comment I've ever read on here.

Similar story for me... got shut out of hometown Ottawa. But I've been exceedingly lucky over the years... and I appreciate the fact that new and old fans have an opportunity to see the band up close. Can't wait!

dimitrispearljam · January 2016

LukinFan said:
I miss the days of them just putting them up for sale, but I guess the lottery is better than everyone bitching about the site crashing.

do u have tix for all the shows?all ok?

AO Jamma · January 2016

Thanks 10s Club! This is my 20th year of seeing them live and I could not be happier. Cheers!

SPEEDY MCCREADY · January 2016

rgambs said:

Indifference said:

mjb said:
Hard to comment on if it was fair as we'll never know the mechanics around the actual selection process, however I think the system by design makes a TON more sense than rewarding people for their ability to click quicker than someone else (and that comes from someone who almost always was able to click his way to victory). As long as there are people that get shut out, there will always be complaints, but it's good for this fanbase and this band that there is still so much demand for their shows. Kudos to the 10c for working on as a fair a system as they could muster.
Actually we got the mechanics pretty much nailed down.
Yes, this is true, minus the most minute aspects.
Folks like PJSoul, Mayday, Dimitris, bootlegger, Derbydave, myself, and you, among others, have been trying to educate and dispel the myths and misinterpretations for some time now.
I had thought about a nice thread that breaks it down and explains how to make your choices based off you own priority and what works for you... Do you need GA or do you just want tickets, do you need a particular show or do you want the safest bets, etc. but I'm burned out on it.

After this draw though, honestly, I don't feel like explaining it all over and over again. The information is all given by the Ten Club in the ticket policy and FAQ, and there is plenty of clarification for the reading comprehension challenged here on the boards, if you can't be bothered to read and think then you deserve the draw you get lol

It will be very hard to have sympathy in any lottery draws going forward. If third time is not the charm, then it's 3 strikes and you are out!

Probably some are more gracious than me and will continue to help the new folks and those who didn't bother to read the info given. If anyone is confused and want help for the West Coast draw anyone is free to PM me for advice. I'm no expert, but I haven't been shut out and I won't be. I have landed every ticket that I thought I would/should get, luck hasn't been on my side for the ones that were iffy, but that's perfectly acceptable.

I cant begin to tell you how happy I was yesterday, when a few people came on here and THANKED me for coming on here for a few days, and explaining the lottery. I was thrilled to hear that a few people stepped back, took a few deep breaths, and truly thought it over, before making their choices.

Because facts are facts.
The Lottery works just fine.
People will ALWAYS have trouble getting tickets for the high demand shows(NYC, Boston, Philly, Chicago). But if someone is able to plan their trips, and stay away from the high demand shows, the lottery works just fine. If people can stop themselves from putting GA as their 1st 4-10 choices, the lottery works just fine. But there are people who can not help themselves. There are people(friends of mine) who just cant fathom not putting in for all GA seats. And by doing so, they guaranteed themselves to get shutout.

Saltzy23 · January 2016

Thank you 10C for giving a lowly 6 month member who's been a fan for half my life the chance to finally see this band from the GA at the Garden. I never thought I'd have the chance to experience it!

KP_McMinn · January 2016

pawlowski1097 said:
Maby I'm in the minority here but I was shutout of all of my choices and I still think this system was solid and very fair. I knew the risks of putting ga/res msg shows as my top picks and still did it anyway. Just wanted to thank the ten club for their efforts and work yesterday.

bump

HesCalledDyer · January 2016

Saltzy23 said:
Thank you 10C for giving a lowly 6 month member who's been a fan for half my life the chance to finally see this band from the GA at the Garden. I never thought I'd have the chance to experience it!

There are no lowly members here! And this is a prime example of not only the joy the lottery can bring, but also the purpose it serves - the chance to give people new experiences. Enjoy it Saltzy!

High Fidelity 2000 · January 2016

PeterED said:

Abe Froman said:
Lottery seems very fair. ... I don't see how another system could be much better.

Thanks 10c!
One pair per membership would ensure that more members actually get tickets.

I've been thinking about this a lot actually. After seeing so many people who lost every choice in the lotto etc... The thing I loved about Ten Club for a long time (post 2000) was that you could get as many shows as you wanted. I used Ten Club seats for every show I went to from 2003 to present except one (the added MSG show in 2003). But to see some people win 4-5 shows out of a short tour like this and some win NONE after entering for multiple shows, the one pair per membership would definitely make it "more fair," if people wanted it more fair. Of course all the rail riding die hards who go to every single show would hate it, but they could still search out extra single tickets, right? I'm ok with that as my days of going to lots of shows per tour are over. I could maybe hit 2 or 3 a tour if they played anywhere near me, and if I was all but guaranteed ONE of those were ten club tix I'd be content with that. Now being able to choose 1st 2nd 3rd choice and only get one might mean you get stuck with your last choice and it's the only show you get... but for some that's still an improvement over none.

dimitrispearljam · January 2016

HesCalledDyer said:

Saltzy23 said:
Thank you 10C for giving a lowly 6 month member who's been a fan for half my life the chance to finally see this band from the GA at the Garden. I never thought I'd have the chance to experience it!
There are no lowly members here! And this is a prime example of not only the joy the lottery can bring, but also the purpose it serves - the chance to give people new experiences. Enjoy it Saltzy!

PP193448 · January 2016

:clap:

jordan k · January 2016

Here's what I know, the last time i bought Ten Club tickets 3 years ago it was $1 dollar cheaper.

To that I say, good job Ten Club and Band!

High Fidelity 2000 · January 2016

jordan k said:
Here's what I know, the last time i bought Ten Club tickets 3 years ago it was $1 dollar cheaper.

To that I say, good job Ten Club and Band!

That is also totally true! The prices barely changed at all since 2013.

pjalive21 · January 2016

my2hands said:
love the lottery

completely agree....I hated the F5 days, most the time I didn't have the time to sit there and deal with it...this way I pick my show and I win or lose and that's that

thank you 10C!!!

Abe Froman · January 2016

Saltzy23 said:
Thank you 10C for giving a lowly 6 month member who's been a fan for half my life the chance to finally see this band from the GA at the Garden. I never thought I'd have the chance to experience it!

Love this! ENJOY!!!! :rock_on:

rgambs · January 2016

rgambs said:

Indifference said:

mjb said:
Hard to comment on if it was fair as we'll never know the mechanics around the actual selection process, however I think the system by design makes a TON more sense than rewarding people for their ability to click quicker than someone else (and that comes from someone who almost always was able to click his way to victory). As long as there are people that get shut out, there will always be complaints, but it's good for this fanbase and this band that there is still so much demand for their shows. Kudos to the 10c for working on as a fair a system as they could muster.
Actually we got the mechanics pretty much nailed down.
Yes, this is true, minus the most minute aspects.
Folks like PJSoul, Mayday, Dimitris, speedy, bootlegger, Derbydave, myself, and you, among others, have been trying to educate and dispel the myths and misinterpretations for some time now.
I had thought about a nice thread that breaks it down and explains how to make your choices based off you own priority and what works for you... Do you need GA or do you just want tickets, do you need a particular show or do you want the safest bets, etc. but I'm burned out on it.

After this draw though, honestly, I don't feel like explaining it all over and over again. The information is all given by the Ten Club in the ticket policy and FAQ, and there is plenty of clarification for the reading comprehension challenged here on the boards, if you can't be bothered to read and think then you deserve the draw you get lol

It will be very hard to have sympathy in any lottery draws going forward. If third time is not the charm, then it's 3 strikes and you are out!

Probably some are more gracious than me and will continue to help the new folks and those who didn't bother to read the info given. If anyone is confused and want help for the West Coast draw anyone is free to PM me for advice. I'm no expert, but I haven't been shut out and I won't be. I have landed every ticket that I thought I would/should get, luck hasn't been on my side for the ones that were iffy, but that's perfectly acceptable.

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

rgambs said:

Indifference said:

mjb said:
Hard to comment on if it was fair as we'll never know the mechanics around the actual selection process, however I think the system by design makes a TON more sense than rewarding people for their ability to click quicker than someone else (and that comes from someone who almost always was able to click his way to victory). As long as there are people that get shut out, there will always be complaints, but it's good for this fanbase and this band that there is still so much demand for their shows. Kudos to the 10c for working on as a fair a system as they could muster.
Actually we got the mechanics pretty much nailed down.
Yes, this is true, minus the most minute aspects.
Folks like PJSoul, Mayday, Dimitris, bootlegger, Derbydave, myself, and you, among others, have been trying to educate and dispel the myths and misinterpretations for some time now.
I had thought about a nice thread that breaks it down and explains how to make your choices based off you own priority and what works for you... Do you need GA or do you just want tickets, do you need a particular show or do you want the safest bets, etc. but I'm burned out on it.

After this draw though, honestly, I don't feel like explaining it all over and over again. The information is all given by the Ten Club in the ticket policy and FAQ, and there is plenty of clarification for the reading comprehension challenged here on the boards, if you can't be bothered to read and think then you deserve the draw you get lol

It will be very hard to have sympathy in any lottery draws going forward. If third time is not the charm, then it's 3 strikes and you are out!

Probably some are more gracious than me and will continue to help the new folks and those who didn't bother to read the info given. If anyone is confused and want help for the West Coast draw anyone is free to PM me for advice. I'm no expert, but I haven't been shut out and I won't be. I have landed every ticket that I thought I would/should get, luck hasn't been on my side for the ones that were iffy, but that's perfectly acceptable.
I cant begin to tell you how happy I was yesterday, when a few people came on here and THANKED me for coming on here for a few days, and explaining the lottery. I was thrilled to hear that a few people stepped back, took a few deep breaths, and truly thought it over, before making their choices.

Because facts are facts.
The Lottery works just fine.
People will ALWAYS have trouble getting tickets for the high demand shows(NYC, Boston, Philly, Chicago). But if someone is able to plan their trips, and stay away from the high demand shows, the lottery works just fine. If people can stop themselves from putting GA as their 1st 4-10 choices, the lottery works just fine. But there are people who can not help themselves. There are people(friends of mine) who just cant fathom not putting in for all GA seats. And by doing so, they guaranteed themselves to get shutout.

That's pretty cool that you were able to help some people.

blondieblue227 · January 2016

i feel bad for the people who got shut out, but this was the easiest system 10c has had. i like how they try different techniques.
i'd like to know, if they get the best seats for members, does that also include the best ADA seats too?
because i was mid level at BACK of the venue last time.

Like Waves · January 2016

blondieblue227 said:

i'd like to know, if they get the best seats for members, does that also include the best ADA seats too?
because i was mid level at BACK of the venue last time.

*fingers crossed* I'm going to feel stupid if I paid way more than usual to sit in the same or worst wheelchair seats I usually get via the venue. That said, it'll probably be my last show so I'd feel more stupid for not at least trying.
Have they sent you the payment invoice yet? Edit: just got mine.

Zod · January 2016

I mostly agree. It's becoming glaringly obvious that the amount of tickets they get access to get is getting smaller. The lottery seems like the fairest way to allocate them. A few tweaks like a single draw for each show (hiding the fact you got GA until you pick up your tickets) might improve things a little, but overall it works.

My only concern is at this point the 10c may be overselling memberships. I know it's only for a chance for tickets, but it's becoming a slimmer and slimmer chance. They keep taking $20 for it. I don't think I've been part of any other fan club where it's this difficult to get tickets. Metclub, U2 etc.. are all a cakewalk compared to 10c

Zod · January 2016

High Fidelity 2000 said:

PeterED said:

Abe Froman said:
Lottery seems very fair. ... I don't see how another system could be much better.

Thanks 10c!
One pair per membership would ensure that more members actually get tickets.
I've been thinking about this a lot actually. After seeing so many people who lost every choice in the lotto etc... The thing I loved about Ten Club for a long time (post 2000) was that you could get as many shows as you wanted. I used Ten Club seats for every show I went to from 2003 to present except one (the added MSG show in 2003). But to see some people win 4-5 shows out of a short tour like this and some win NONE after entering for multiple shows, the one pair per membership would definitely make it "more fair," if people wanted it more fair. Of course all the rail riding die hards who go to every single show would hate it, but they could still search out extra single tickets, right? I'm ok with that as my days of going to lots of shows per tour are over. I could maybe hit 2 or 3 a tour if they played anywhere near me, and if I was all but guaranteed ONE of those were ten club tix I'd be content with that. Now being able to choose 1st 2nd 3rd choice and only get one might mean you get stuck with your last choice and it's the only show you get... but for some that's still an improvement over none.

I think restricting to one show would change peoples selection behavior. You would actually enhance your ability to get tickets to a show but not selecting other shows. Ie if you chose New York and only New York you might have stronger odds of getting it. If you selected a bunch, you'll probably only get tickets to the least popular of your entire selection list. The one that would probably be easiest to get non-10c tickets too. Why would someone put a show from the South on their list if the knew it would prevent them from going to a show closer to home (ie the insanity that is tickets for NorthEast shows).

Solid work from the ten club.

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