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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,003
    Should have nuked 'em anyway to teach them a lesson. Where's GWB when you need him?
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  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    This is what we call "prepping the battle space"

    http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13941023001131
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Useful for domestic consumption



    Iran sticking it to the great satan!
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    BS44325 said:

    Useful for domestic consumption



    Iran sticking it to the great satan!
    So what would the US do if a military boat full of Iranian military showed up in their waters?

    They were detained without harm and released hours later. No harm no foul. You should really give up on this, it's smells of desperation. You are getting knocked down at every turn.
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    Many didn't want any dialog with Iran. Now we're working on nuclear treaty and they released our soldiers within 24 hours after US trespassed. The horror.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,003
    Prepping the battle space? My god you do have a mock sand table of the Persian Gulf region in your basement. How soon to launch commander? And do you smoke a cigar as you move the pieces around with a pool bridge?
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  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    Funny how I loathe nationalism yet still instinctively feel defensive when people criticize my country...
    Canada has a navy.
    Canada doesn't have nukes, but could (we sold India and Pakistan their first reactors! Go team Canada!)
    And we have helped free the shit out of many countries.
    Please don't ignore the blood on our hands when we're beating the war drums :wink:

    Halifax2TheMax said:

    Prepping the battle space? My god you do have a mock sand table of the Persian Gulf region in your basement. How soon to launch commander? And do you smoke a cigar as you move the pieces around with a pool bridge?

    :lol:
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    It was fun listening to the radio whackos trying to make this into an issue today. It felt so forced and phony...really shows how much of conservatism is just pandering to fears and anger without much discretion.
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,311
    rgambs said:

    It was fun listening to the radio whackos trying to make this into an issue today. It felt so forced and phony...really shows how much of conservatism is just pandering to fears and anger without much discretion.

    For those folks (talking radio heads) it isnt about conservatism its about lining their pockets targeting an audience that doesnt question much or think critically
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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/iran-frees-prisoners-1.3407089


    Iran freed four Americans including Washington Post reporter Jason Rezaian on Saturday in a prisoner swap, as diplomats gathered to announce the lifting of international sanctions and bring the country of 80 million people back to the global economic stage.
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,311
    Oh would you look at that. Evil evil people those Iranians.
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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    mickeyrat said:

    Oh would you look at that. Evil evil people those Iranians.

    And more proof that Obama and diplomacy is a failure........why aren't we all bombing them yet?
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,311
    dignin said:

    mickeyrat said:

    Oh would you look at that. Evil evil people those Iranians.

    And more proof that Obama and diplomacy is a failure........why aren't we all bombing them yet?
    I know. Nuclear stuff verified even.
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,289
    A barrel of oil is now cheaper then the actual barrel. Sour crude oil (high sulfer) is being sold at minus $0.50 per barrel.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,011
    i love how all of the republicans in the debate said they would have bombed iran because they had american military on their knees.

    they were released in less than 18 hours.

    not one peep about them being released by the candidates though. do their supporters really have such short attention spans? last week they were gonna bomb iran. the next day the "crisis" was over. and none of the candidates said anything. not even to thank jesus for their safe return.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Jason P said:

    A barrel of oil is now cheaper then the actual barrel. Sour crude oil (high sulfer) is being sold at minus $0.50 per barrel.

    This pricing was a website mistake actually. But the point is accurate, low grade sour crude is worth basically nothing. Cheap gas is nice, but this is going too far. You have 100k people in this country who are linked to oil that will be in trouble financially. You have large and small banks that hold debt on all of these smaller pipelines, supply chain companies, etc. Those loans will go bad which not only hurts the companies, but it damages the bank balance sheets. We could end up in a recession because of this. Not like 2008, but it could kill the recovery. States like TX, OK, ND, etc. are in real trouble. The decades long TX boom is over.
  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    mrussel1 said:

    Jason P said:

    A barrel of oil is now cheaper then the actual barrel. Sour crude oil (high sulfer) is being sold at minus $0.50 per barrel.

    This pricing was a website mistake actually. But the point is accurate, low grade sour crude is worth basically nothing. Cheap gas is nice, but this is going too far. You have 100k people in this country who are linked to oil that will be in trouble financially. You have large and small banks that hold debt on all of these smaller pipelines, supply chain companies, etc. Those loans will go bad which not only hurts the companies, but it damages the bank balance sheets. We could end up in a recession because of this. Not like 2008, but it could kill the recovery. States like TX, OK, ND, etc. are in real trouble. The decades long TX boom is over.
    Solid points Mrussel.Most people don't think about the reverb effect here.
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,289
    It's a good thing that Obama killed the keystone pipeline since his foreign policy has pretty much ruined that local economy.
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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    rr165892 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Jason P said:

    A barrel of oil is now cheaper then the actual barrel. Sour crude oil (high sulfer) is being sold at minus $0.50 per barrel.

    This pricing was a website mistake actually. But the point is accurate, low grade sour crude is worth basically nothing. Cheap gas is nice, but this is going too far. You have 100k people in this country who are linked to oil that will be in trouble financially. You have large and small banks that hold debt on all of these smaller pipelines, supply chain companies, etc. Those loans will go bad which not only hurts the companies, but it damages the bank balance sheets. We could end up in a recession because of this. Not like 2008, but it could kill the recovery. States like TX, OK, ND, etc. are in real trouble. The decades long TX boom is over.
    Solid points Mrussel.Most people don't think about the reverb effect here.
    And what point would that be? And what message are you sending here, better to be at war because it might be better for the economy?

    I'm not getting what is being thrown down here.
  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    edited January 2016
    dignin said:

    rr165892 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Jason P said:

    A barrel of oil is now cheaper then the actual barrel. Sour crude oil (high sulfer) is being sold at minus $0.50 per barrel.

    This pricing was a website mistake actually. But the point is accurate, low grade sour crude is worth basically nothing. Cheap gas is nice, but this is going too far. You have 100k people in this country who are linked to oil that will be in trouble financially. You have large and small banks that hold debt on all of these smaller pipelines, supply chain companies, etc. Those loans will go bad which not only hurts the companies, but it damages the bank balance sheets. We could end up in a recession because of this. Not like 2008, but it could kill the recovery. States like TX, OK, ND, etc. are in real trouble. The decades long TX boom is over.
    Solid points Mrussel.Most people don't think about the reverb effect here.
    And what point would that be? And what message are you sending here, better to be at war because it might be better for the economy?

    I'm not getting what is being thrown down here.
    No dig,the economic backlash that dropping price and over saturation of oil has.Obamas shitty timing on releasing sanctions with Iran has the markets dropping and haven't helped at all.Where the fuck did you get war from? He should have waited until things stabilized and Oil hit its natural low.Just another way this admin is out of touch with reality.But hey,our new best buddies the Iranians are happy.So all is good.
    Much of our domestic economic infrastructure is heavily reliant on the oil and gas industry.Little shifts in the main market put lots of companies under and Americans out of work.I could give a shit about Irans economy.
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