Police abuse

rgambs said:

PJ_Soul said:

muskydan said:

Indifference71 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Indifference71 said:

callen said:

Dirtie_Frank said:

rgambs said:

http://chicagoreporter.com/how-chicago-tried-to-cover-up-a-police-execution/

Tell me again about how 99% of cops are good guys. This story plays out again and again, and police apologists brush it aside as anecdotal or unsubstantiated.
We NEED oversight from the outside.

You are right police need a better oversight in place. However why is there only outcry when a police officer does it? There have been over 2000 shot in Chicago. What has Rahm Emanuel done for the city. It is time the citizens take back the city from the crooks. It is time for the police and the city to work together.

Because the police are the police and criminals are criminals. When those hired to protect and serve kill and cover it up it's just a little worse.

Yep, it may be a little worse. But the selective outrage is what drives me nuts. I'm sure it has been talked about around here but where are the protests for something like this? A fucking 9 year old kid murdered by some fucking animal.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/27/us/chicago-tyshawn-lee-arrest/

What in the fuck would a protest against an arrested criminal achieve????
Callen said it. The police are police and criminals are criminals. One we expect proper conduct from and they need to be held to that standard. Protests are meant to force change within their system, to expose and highlight wrongdoing wothin the system in order to obligate that system to improve because it's paid for by and is meant to protect the public.
Protesting a jailed criminal sounds like one of the biggest wastes of time and energy of all time, lol. The authorities already know that murderous gang members need to be caught. So what would the protest be for? Would it be an attempt to ask murderers to cut it out because there are people asking for it at a rally that the criminals aren't even aware of? Pretty sure that would be ineffective, haha.

Ahh man I don't know why I even bother around this cesspool.

You got that right. If only some of the fools around here saw for their own eyes the ignorance of the protesters down the mag mile in Chicago yesterday. My favorite was watching shoppers busting through the human chains these protesters were making in an effort to "shut shit down" ...one of my favorite chants by the way... The protesters would then come up to us and ask why we were not doing anything....I swear liberalism is a disease .

Seriously, Wtf are you two talking about in the context of my post?? All you just did is call me an ignorant fool, but I was seriously asking Wtf you think protesting criminals would do. I also never mentioned Chicago - haven't seen any coverage on it. I was talking generally about protesting police misconduct vs protesting the behaviour of criminals.

We ask a legitimate question about what a protest of civilian crime would look like, and what it would be seeking to achieve... They can't answer the question and somehow we are the fools.

rr165892 said:

Indifference71 said:

callen said:

Dirtie_Frank said:

rgambs said:

http://chicagoreporter.com/how-chicago-tried-to-cover-up-a-police-execution/

Tell me again about how 99% of cops are good guys. This story plays out again and again, and police apologists brush it aside as anecdotal or unsubstantiated.
We NEED oversight from the outside.

You are right police need a better oversight in place. However why is there only outcry when a police officer does it? There have been over 2000 shot in Chicago. What has Rahm Emanuel done for the city. It is time the citizens take back the city from the crooks. It is time for the police and the city to work together.

Because the police are the police and criminals are criminals. When those hired to protect and serve kill and cover it up it's just a little worse.

Yep, it may be a little worse. But the selective outrage is what drives me nuts. I'm sure it has been talked about around here but where are the protests for something like this? A fucking 9 year old kid murdered by some fucking animal.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/27/us/chicago-tyshawn-lee-arrest/

I brought this up also.Its not sexy (or hip and PC)to speak out about black on black violence.They can't blame the white cop when those folks are killed at the hands of another black member of the community.In fact I read that over 90% of all black folks killed in this country are killed by other black folks.Only like 2% is killed by whites and even less than that for cops.So maybe we should be looking at where the problem really is.

PJ_Soul said:

dignin said:

rr165892 said:

Indifference71 said:

callen said:

Dirtie_Frank said:

rgambs said:

http://chicagoreporter.com/how-chicago-tried-to-cover-up-a-police-execution/

Tell me again about how 99% of cops are good guys. This story plays out again and again, and police apologists brush it aside as anecdotal or unsubstantiated.
We NEED oversight from the outside.

You are right police need a better oversight in place. However why is there only outcry when a police officer does it? There have been over 2000 shot in Chicago. What has Rahm Emanuel done for the city. It is time the citizens take back the city from the crooks. It is time for the police and the city to work together.

Because the police are the police and criminals are criminals. When those hired to protect and serve kill and cover it up it's just a little worse.

Yep, it may be a little worse. But the selective outrage is what drives me nuts. I'm sure it has been talked about around here but where are the protests for something like this? A fucking 9 year old kid murdered by some fucking animal.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/27/us/chicago-tyshawn-lee-arrest/

I brought this up also.Its not sexy (or hip and PC)to speak out about black on black violence.They can't blame the white cop when those folks are killed at the hands of another black member of the community.In fact I read that over 90% of all black folks killed in this country are killed by other black folks.Only like 2% is killed by whites and even less than that for cops.So maybe we should be looking at where the problem really is.

Start another thread about that then.

There already is one - the one where black people are scary.

muskydan said:

Indifference71 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Indifference71 said:

callen said:

Dirtie_Frank said:

rgambs said:

http://chicagoreporter.com/how-chicago-tried-to-cover-up-a-police-execution/

Tell me again about how 99% of cops are good guys. This story plays out again and again, and police apologists brush it aside as anecdotal or unsubstantiated.
We NEED oversight from the outside.

You are right police need a better oversight in place. However why is there only outcry when a police officer does it? There have been over 2000 shot in Chicago. What has Rahm Emanuel done for the city. It is time the citizens take back the city from the crooks. It is time for the police and the city to work together.

Because the police are the police and criminals are criminals. When those hired to protect and serve kill and cover it up it's just a little worse.

Yep, it may be a little worse. But the selective outrage is what drives me nuts. I'm sure it has been talked about around here but where are the protests for something like this? A fucking 9 year old kid murdered by some fucking animal.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/27/us/chicago-tyshawn-lee-arrest/

What in the fuck would a protest against an arrested criminal achieve????
Callen said it. The police are police and criminals are criminals. One we expect proper conduct from and they need to be held to that standard. Protests are meant to force change within their system, to expose and highlight wrongdoing wothin the system in order to obligate that system to improve because it's paid for by and is meant to protect the public.
Protesting a jailed criminal sounds like one of the biggest wastes of time and energy of all time, lol. The authorities already know that murderous gang members need to be caught. So what would the protest be for? Would it be an attempt to ask murderers to cut it out because there are people asking for it at a rally that the criminals aren't even aware of? Pretty sure that would be ineffective, haha.

Ahh man I don't know why I even bother around this cesspool.

You got that right. If only some of the fools around here saw for their own eyes the ignorance of the protesters down the mag mile in Chicago yesterday. My favorite was watching shoppers busting through the human chains these protesters were making in an effort to "shut shit down" ...one of my favorite chants by the way... The protesters would then come up to us and ask why we were not doing anything....I swear liberalism is a disease .

In case there were any doubts left about the rampant racism that infects our police forces, a shocking new report from the Southern Poverty Law Center and the Alabama Justice Project has found that law officers in Dothan, Alabama, have been planting drugs and weapons on black suspects for years – and hundreds are still in prison on false charges. The explosive evidence has been brought forward by other police officers, who believe that “the public has a right to know that the Dothan Police Department, and District Attorney Doug Valeska, targeted young black men by planting drugs and weapons on them over a decade. Most of the young men were prosecuted, many sentenced to prison, and some are still in prison. Many of the officers involved were subsequently promoted and are in leadership positions in law enforcement. They hope the mood of the country is one that demands action and that the US Department of Justice will intervene.”

The whistle-blowing officers have even said they are willing to testify against their corrupt comrades, who were apparently members of a neo-Confederate organization that called “for blacks to return to Africa, published that the civil rights movement is really a Jewish conspiracy, and that blacks have lower IQ’s.” The leaked files also reveal that an Internal Affairs investigation into the matter was silenced by the Attorney General’s office: “all were aware of the investigation and its outcome. All have been rewarded with careers in law enforcement by those for whom they covered, while those who spoke out were forced out of the department. Disturbingly, Ott and Parrish have both attended the FBI academy. Both were highly recommended by the district attorney and former Police Chief, John White.”

These are shocking and terrifying revelations. If this is just one police force in one Alabaman town, who knows where else this has been going on? It’s a staggering, decades-long cover-up of the systematic targeting of African-Americans for incarceration, a damning indictment both of our law enforcement agencies and the accountability mechanisms that are supposed to be in check. Following on the heels of the deeply disturbing LaQuan McDonald shooting footage, this could finally prompt the national conversation on policing and race that the right-wing has been virulently resisting and discrediting over the past few months. Coming from police officers themselves, the “Blue Lives Matter” crowd no longer have any legs to stand on.

PJ_Soul said:

^^^ Holy SHIT. Is this HUGE NEWS and causing a massive uproar and investigations into every force across the nation as it should be? Or are people trying to ignore it? (I just cancelled my cable news bundle along with some others - trimmed my cable bill by $40! But now I am more out of touch, lol).

muskydan said:

rgambs said:

PJ_Soul said:

^^^ Holy SHIT. Is this HUGE NEWS and causing a massive uproar and investigations into every force across the nation as it should be? Or are people trying to ignore it? (I just cancelled my cable news bundle along with some others - trimmed my cable bill by $40! But now I am more out of touch, lol).

No, this isn't news at all. Those who are wise to what police are up to are not at all surprised and those who think 99% of cops are "good" will just sweep it under the rug as unproven or anecdotal.

Blacklivesmatter exists for a reason, but mostly they are viewed with a discriminatory lens and they are constantly belittled.

Do you personally know anyone actively involved in the black lives matter movement? Better yet, have you ever marched w/ any of them in protest? Your opinion of these people might be different if you said no to any of those questions.

muskydan said:

rgambs said:

PJ_Soul said:

^^^ Holy SHIT. Is this HUGE NEWS and causing a massive uproar and investigations into every force across the nation as it should be? Or are people trying to ignore it? (I just cancelled my cable news bundle along with some others - trimmed my cable bill by $40! But now I am more out of touch, lol).

No, this isn't news at all. Those who are wise to what police are up to are not at all surprised and those who think 99% of cops are "good" will just sweep it under the rug as unproven or anecdotal.

Blacklivesmatter exists for a reason, but mostly they are viewed with a discriminatory lens and they are constantly belittled.

Do you personally know anyone actively involved in the black lives matter movement? Better yet, have you ever marched w/ any of them in protest? Your opinion of these people might be different if you said no to any of those questions.