Ku Klux Klan Members?

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  • PJ_ROCKS
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  • pjhawks
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    Kat said:

    I'd call it more of a shaming...a bright light shining in dark places. Who wears hoods in a good organization? It's really creepy to do that and we'll just see how it shakes out and how much validity we should attach to the list. We'll evaluate it as we do everything we talk about in here.
    Have a beautiful week, everyone.

    while I agree with the premise to some extent where do you draw the line on shaming someone? there are plenty of instances of people being shamed on the internet for much less things than being KKK members but ends up with those having very bad effects on those being shamed, even to the point of death. Shaming and outing people is a form of bullying. Where is the line to be drawn? Shaming and outing people like this is a very thin line that all of us should give second thoughts too supporting.

    Edit: i don't want anyone to take my above comments in any way as some kind of support for KKK members who are outed.
  • PJ_Soul
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    pjhawks said:

    Kat said:

    I'd call it more of a shaming...a bright light shining in dark places. Who wears hoods in a good organization? It's really creepy to do that and we'll just see how it shakes out and how much validity we should attach to the list. We'll evaluate it as we do everything we talk about in here.
    Have a beautiful week, everyone.

    while I agree with the premise to some extent where do you draw the line on shaming someone? there are plenty of instances of people being shamed on the internet for much less things than being KKK members but ends up with those having very bad effects on those being shamed, even to the point of death. Shaming and outing people is a form of bullying. Where is the line to be drawn? Shaming and outing people like this is a very thin line that all of us should give second thoughts too supporting.

    Edit: i don't want anyone to take my above comments in any way as some kind of support for KKK members who are outed.
    I think that shaming is a completely valid thing to do in some cases, and this is one of them. I think bringing "bullying" into it is a really tired thing to do. It's basically ridiculous to brow beat the shaming of KKK members. Shaming them and white supremacists in general is completely appropriate. I actually think we'd be remiss NOT to shame such people.
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  • callen
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    pjhawks said:

    Kat said:

    I'd call it more of a shaming...a bright light shining in dark places. Who wears hoods in a good organization? It's really creepy to do that and we'll just see how it shakes out and how much validity we should attach to the list. We'll evaluate it as we do everything we talk about in here.
    Have a beautiful week, everyone.

    while I agree with the premise to some extent where do you draw the line on shaming someone? there are plenty of instances of people being shamed on the internet for much less things than being KKK members but ends up with those having very bad effects on those being shamed, even to the point of death. Shaming and outing people is a form of bullying. Where is the line to be drawn? Shaming and outing people like this is a very thin line that all of us should give second thoughts too supporting.

    Edit: i don't want anyone to take my above comments in any way as some kind of support for KKK members who are outed.
    Screw it. If your a racist, no less a white racists that has all the advantages, you should be called out for being an insecure ass. Racism is a cancer and should be exposed.
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,177

    Kat said:

    I'd call it more of a shaming...a bright light shining in dark places. Who wears hoods in a good organization? It's really creepy to do that and we'll just see how it shakes out and how much validity we should attach to the list. We'll evaluate it as we do everything we talk about in here.
    Have a beautiful week, everyone.

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    Anonymous has good intentions. Their information has backfired in the past but to compare Anonymous to the KKK isn't really fair.
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  • pjhawks
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    PJ_Soul said:

    pjhawks said:

    Kat said:

    I'd call it more of a shaming...a bright light shining in dark places. Who wears hoods in a good organization? It's really creepy to do that and we'll just see how it shakes out and how much validity we should attach to the list. We'll evaluate it as we do everything we talk about in here.
    Have a beautiful week, everyone.

    while I agree with the premise to some extent where do you draw the line on shaming someone? there are plenty of instances of people being shamed on the internet for much less things than being KKK members but ends up with those having very bad effects on those being shamed, even to the point of death. Shaming and outing people is a form of bullying. Where is the line to be drawn? Shaming and outing people like this is a very thin line that all of us should give second thoughts too supporting.

    Edit: i don't want anyone to take my above comments in any way as some kind of support for KKK members who are outed.
    I think that shaming is a completely valid thing to do in some cases, and this is one of them. I think bringing "bullying" into it is a really tired thing to do. It's basically ridiculous to brow beat the shaming of KKK members. Shaming them and white supremacists in general is completely appropriate. I actually think we'd be remiss NOT to shame such people.
    agree but i guess my contention is who decides what is shaming worthy? If we leave that decision up people like Kim Davis we could end up in a dark place. it's a slippery slope.
  • pjhawks
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    Kat said:

    I'd call it more of a shaming...a bright light shining in dark places. Who wears hoods in a good organization? It's really creepy to do that and we'll just see how it shakes out and how much validity we should attach to the list. We'll evaluate it as we do everything we talk about in here.
    Have a beautiful week, everyone.

    none i can think of image
    Anonymous has good intentions. Their information has backfired in the past but to compare Anonymous to the KKK isn't really fair.
    not trying to compare the two at all. just asking a question about the slope that this type of behavior is taking us down. as i said above, who gets to decide what is shame worthy? yea KKK members are shame worthy, but if people like Kim Davis get to decide then we could be going down a slippery path.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,665
    edited November 2015
    pjhawks said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    pjhawks said:

    Kat said:

    I'd call it more of a shaming...a bright light shining in dark places. Who wears hoods in a good organization? It's really creepy to do that and we'll just see how it shakes out and how much validity we should attach to the list. We'll evaluate it as we do everything we talk about in here.
    Have a beautiful week, everyone.

    while I agree with the premise to some extent where do you draw the line on shaming someone? there are plenty of instances of people being shamed on the internet for much less things than being KKK members but ends up with those having very bad effects on those being shamed, even to the point of death. Shaming and outing people is a form of bullying. Where is the line to be drawn? Shaming and outing people like this is a very thin line that all of us should give second thoughts too supporting.

    Edit: i don't want anyone to take my above comments in any way as some kind of support for KKK members who are outed.
    I think that shaming is a completely valid thing to do in some cases, and this is one of them. I think bringing "bullying" into it is a really tired thing to do. It's basically ridiculous to brow beat the shaming of KKK members. Shaming them and white supremacists in general is completely appropriate. I actually think we'd be remiss NOT to shame such people.
    agree but i guess my contention is who decides what is shaming worthy? If we leave that decision up people like Kim Davis we could end up in a dark place. it's a slippery slope.
    How about we just go with common sense on this one? I personally don't subscribe to the slippery slope theory. I believe it to be one of the weakest arguments in just about all cases precisely because it rejects common sense.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,177
    edited November 2015
    pjhawks said:

    Kat said:

    I'd call it more of a shaming...a bright light shining in dark places. Who wears hoods in a good organization? It's really creepy to do that and we'll just see how it shakes out and how much validity we should attach to the list. We'll evaluate it as we do everything we talk about in here.
    Have a beautiful week, everyone.

    none i can think of image
    Anonymous has good intentions. Their information has backfired in the past but to compare Anonymous to the KKK isn't really fair.
    not trying to compare the two at all. just asking a question about the slope that this type of behavior is taking us down. as i said above, who gets to decide what is shame worthy? yea KKK members are shame worthy, but if people like Kim Davis get to decide then we could be going down a slippery path.
    The public decides. If Anonymous issued a list of people that jerked off no one would care because everyone jerks off.

    Kim Davis gave us her version of shaming and the public was overwhelming against it.
    Post edited by Gern Blansten on
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  • pjhawks
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    pjhawks said:

    Kat said:

    I'd call it more of a shaming...a bright light shining in dark places. Who wears hoods in a good organization? It's really creepy to do that and we'll just see how it shakes out and how much validity we should attach to the list. We'll evaluate it as we do everything we talk about in here.
    Have a beautiful week, everyone.

    none i can think of image
    Anonymous has good intentions. Their information has backfired in the past but to compare Anonymous to the KKK isn't really fair.
    not trying to compare the two at all. just asking a question about the slope that this type of behavior is taking us down. as i said above, who gets to decide what is shame worthy? yea KKK members are shame worthy, but if people like Kim Davis get to decide then we could be going down a slippery path.
    The public decides. If Anonymous issued a list of people that jerked off no one would care because everyone jerks off.
    not true, people cared about who was on the AshleyMadison.com list that was put out. Was that ok to out regular people for that? And i think it's a huge difference in outing celebrities for these types of behaviors (like the Duggar dude) and outing regular everyday people. outing people based on what you think is shame-worthy can ruin lives and you may have different levels of what you consider shame worthy.

    again not advocating against outing KKK members here as I think every reasonable person agrees with the shamefulness of those members .
  • mickeyrat
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    Kat said:

    I'd call it more of a shaming...a bright light shining in dark places. Who wears hoods in a good organization? It's really creepy to do that and we'll just see how it shakes out and how much validity we should attach to the list. We'll evaluate it as we do everything we talk about in here.
    Have a beautiful week, everyone.

    none i can think of image
    Anonymous has good intentions. Their information has backfired in the past but to compare Anonymous to the KKK isn't really fair.
    Thats never his agenda. Fairness.
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    just a quick thought,
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  • The KKK operate in the dark because they are cowardly.

    If they were people of principle, they'd stand behind their values and openly practice their hatred.

    With that said, goofy organizations like the Westboro Baptist Church are worthy of more respect given they at least 'walk the walk'.

    For the simple fact that their knees are likely knocking together at this very moment at the thought of being exposed... expose them.
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  • rgambs
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    The KKK operate in the dark because they are cowardly.

    If they were people of principle, they'd stand behind their values and openly practice their hatred.

    With that said, goofy organizations like the Westboro Baptist Church are worthy of more respect given they at least 'walk the walk'.

    For the simple fact that their knees are likely knocking together at this very moment at the thought of being exposed... expose them.

    :clap:
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  • rgambs said:

    The KKK operate in the dark because they are cowardly.

    :clap:
    This is were the comparison of kkk and Anon comes into play.

  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,665
    edited November 2015

    rgambs said:

    The KKK operate in the dark because they are cowardly.

    :clap:
    This is were the comparison of kkk and Anon comes into play.

    I believe that Anonymous operates the way it does because if they didn't do it that way they'd be stopped from doing what they're doing.
    I believe the KKK wears hoods so that the members can hide their dark side - their dirty little secret - from their community and their employers.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,665
    edited November 2015
    Thank you Dignin.
    Wow. Fascinating. I didn't get 1 minute in before:

    Ben “Zyklon” Garrison AKA Wyatt Mann AKA Skeeter
    Gladeville, Tennessee
    militant.tn.ns@gmail.com
    militant.tn.klavern01@gmail.com
    Associates degree in Applied Science, HVAC
    Attended White House High School
    Disavowed by the KKK, has a million aliases
    described as an “alpha nazi” by those that know him
    Hangs out on /pol/ & cartoonist hobby
    “rebuked by others for his extremism”
    “the Aryan Brotherhood, and the Hammerskin Nation for his levels of rampant, psychotic hatred.”
    “Truly a demented nexus of omnidirectional loathing in the shape of a man”

    :tired_face:

    Many interesting comments included. I.e.:

    Bill Potts
    Imperial Wizard of his very own KKK group in TN.
    Former member of several KKK groups
    Former member of the original Knight Riders
    Former law enforcement
    Generally a harmless old fart now
    https://www.facebook.com/bill.potts1
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576

    rgambs said:

    The KKK operate in the dark because they are cowardly.

    :clap:
    This is were the comparison of kkk and Anon comes into play.

    I don't see a comparison, KKK can operate in the open if they have the balls to, Anonymous doesn't have that option.
    One of their next big targets will be pedophiles, will that change your opinion?
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,665
    edited November 2015
    Just did a random spot check of FB profiles listed.... yeah, so far it seems pretty fucking accurate. These people are sick fucks. Most of them don't seem to be hiding it. A few do, but for the most part, it's really a list of people we should stay away from... and who the cops and FBI should keep an eye on.
    I don't understand how these people can have public FB pages like this and still have jobs. It's actually pretty fucking scary to browse these pages. A lot of them look really evil.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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