Ku Klux Klan Members?

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  • Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,650
    edited November 2015

    https://books.google.ca/books?id=mGrxBwAAQBAJ&pg=PA184&lpg=PA184&dq=kkk+civil+disobedience&source=bl&ots=xXxiY01Uzx&sig=r96lJ88KZosLccNxWmfIapoUlWE&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CDEQ6AEwBGoVChMIjIiQ77j1yAIVCx8eCh1ERQH2#v=onepage&q=kkk civil disobedience&f=false
    That is some article talking about what was going on in the 1860s, and the writer decided to call the (then) legal stuff that the KKK was doing "civil disobedience". That was a very poor choice of words on the writer's part, and totally irrelevant to the way people normally use the term today. It also says that the KKK stepped beyond the author's odd concept of civil disobedience into truly fucked up shit. So you equate civil disobedience to KKK members because of this one thing that I assume you found via Google?
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • PJ_Soul said:

    That is some article talking about what was going on in the 1860s, and the writer decided to call the (then) legal stuff that the KKK was doing "civil disobedience". That was a very poor choice of words on the writer's part, and totally irrelevant to the way people normally use the term. It also says that the KKK stepped beyond the author's odd concept of civil disobedience into truly fucked up shit. So you equate civil disbedience to KKK members because of this one thing that I assume you found via Google?
    You obviously didn't scroll up to read the picture edit.
  • Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,650

    You obviously didn't scroll up to read the picture edit.
    I did read that actually. I'm not sure what your point is.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • PJ_Soul said:

    I did read that actually. I'm not sure what your point is.
    The article draws upon facts that civil disobedience runs rampant in kkk.
    1860 till now (or at least a pic from 1999 for reference).
    Same manner, same tone after all this time.
    Civil disobedience - kkk
  • Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,650

    The article draws upon facts that civil disobedience runs rampant in kkk.
    1860 till now (or at least a pic from 1999 for reference).
    Same manner, same tone after all this time.
    Civil disobedience - kkk
    But you said you equate civil disobedience to KKK members, and were therefore surprised that I support civil disobedience. I.e. Civil disobedience = KKK. That doesn't mean the same as saying the KKK has practiced civil disobedience. Sorry for paying too much attention to what you wrote. ;)
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Posts: 13,576
    edited November 2015

    The article draws upon facts that civil disobedience runs rampant in kkk.
    1860 till now (or at least a pic from 1999 for reference).
    Same manner, same tone after all this time.
    Civil disobedience - kkk
    Nice try, not.
    Did you read it? It specifies the different manners and tones throughout the decades, almost all of which do not qualify as civil disobedience.
    The KKK wear hoods to protect their identity in the committing of crimes, by nearly every definition, civil disobedience requires breaking the law openly and getting arrested for it.
    A better use of Google would have been starting with a definition of what civil disobedience is.
    Post edited by rgambs on
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • rgambs said:

    Nice try, not.
    Did you read it? It specifies the different manners and tones throughout the decades, almost all of which do not qualify as civil disobedience.
    The KKK wear hoods to protect their identity in the committing of crimes, by nearly every definition, civil disobedience requires breaking the law openly and getting arrested for it.
    A better use of Google would have been starting with a definition of what civil disobedience is.
    I believe you said earlier
    Most liberals do love civil disobedience, equal rights and living wages, stopping and preventing wars, reigning in the financial maffias...that's what civil disobedience is all about, that's liberalism to a T.

    So breaking the law is required for civil disobedience?
    And someone states they love civil disobedience......
  • Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,650
    Duh, yes, civil disobedience is necessarily breaking the law.
    I think the fact that you don't fully read posts yet reply to them anyway is showing this afternoon.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Posts: 13,576


    I believe you said earlier
    Most liberals do love civil disobedience, equal rights and living wages, stopping and preventing wars, reigning in the financial maffias...that's what civil disobedience is all about, that's liberalism to a T.

    So breaking the law is required for civil disobedience?
    And someone states they love civil disobedience......
    Yes it is. Maybe try some reading.
    Yes, she did and I do too.
    So too should women, black people, native people, and any laborers who make a living wage, because they all owe their rights to those who practiced civil disobedience.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • Kat said:

    You forgot Batman. :lol: I'll have to think of a new way to say it. It's about intent, eh? :)

    Kat's Canadian?
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,385
    edited November 2015

    The article draws upon facts that civil disobedience runs rampant in kkk.
    1860 till now (or at least a pic from 1999 for reference).
    Same manner, same tone after all this time.
    Civil disobedience - kkk
    Based on your posts...kkk= civil disobedience

    So therefore you are okay with....

    Lynchings
    Burning crosses on people's lawns
    Beatings
    Church burnings
    Murders
    Etc etc
  • Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,650

    Kat's Canadian?
    Looks like our influence is leaking across the border. :tongue:
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Based on your posts...kkk= civil disobedience

    So therefore you are okay with....

    Lynchings
    Burning crosses on people's lawns
    Beatings
    Church burnings
    Murders
    Etc etc
    Me?
  • Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,385

    Me?
    Nobod else on here has equated the kkk with civil disobedience
  • Posts: 12,885
    edited December 2015
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    Post edited by PJfanwillneverleave1 on
  • Posts: 9,537

    my side ? what is my side in your opinion ?

    Godfather.

    I'd say your side is conservatives. In the last few years, you guys have been parroting each other, saying that if someone says racism is happening, that the person identifying the racism is being racist themselves and that doing this is making racial tensions worse. It's an interesting form of denial. This gets paired with blind faith in law enforcement in cases of cops abusing their power. I think it has to do with us white guys slowly losing our white privilege, which makes some people afraid of that change.
  • Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,651
    Lets clear something up here real easy like: All apples are a fruit. Not all fruits are apples.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni











  • Posts: 12,504

    I'd say your side is conservatives. In the last few years, you guys have been parroting each other, saying that if someone says racism is happening, that the person identifying the racism is being racist themselves and that doing this is making racial tensions worse. It's an interesting form of denial. This gets paired with blind faith in law enforcement in cases of cops abusing their power. I think it has to do with us white guys slowly losing our white privilege, which makes some people afraid of that change.
    so total anarchy would be better ?
    also I don't really subscribe to any political party or labels, I've always voiced my opinion on what I believe is best....some disagree I'm sure, it just seems to me that labels and parties are a target for blame and finger pointing, our government has become consumed with it self and doing that they have lost sight for the best interest of the people and when the people become angry they turn on each other and the government uses that as a tool.

    Godfather.

  • Posts: 6,388

    I'd say your side is conservatives. In the last few years, you guys have been parroting each other, saying that if someone says racism is happening, that the person identifying the racism is being racist themselves and that doing this is making racial tensions worse. It's an interesting form of denial. This gets paired with blind faith in law enforcement in cases of cops abusing their power. I think it has to do with us white guys slowly losing our white privilege, which makes some people afraid of that change.
    I don't know about loosing the privilege, not for many generations to come. I look at concentration of $$$.
    10-18-2000 Houston, 04-06-2003 Houston, 6-25-2003 Toronto, 10-8-2004 Kissimmee, 9-4-2005 Calgary, 12-3-05 Sao Paulo, 7-2-2006 Denver, 7-22-06 Gorge, 7-23-2006 Gorge, 9-13-2006 Bern, 6-22-2008 DC, 6-24-2008 MSG, 6-25-2008 MSG
  • Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,385
    brianlux said:

    Lets clear something up here real easy like: All apples are a fruit. Not all fruits are apples.

    Who you calling a fruit??!! :giggle:

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