Hey guys .....will a new needle get damaged if you play bad damaged to the grooves?

JP33
JP33 Posts: 1,348
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I had a bent needled chisold my vinyl.......you could see the bad needle shaven the record when it was playing........now I have this new needle....should I play them on the chisled vinyl.....Thanks

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  • lotsalemon
    lotsalemon Boston Posts: 2,739
    I wouldn't - if the record is visibly damaged as you said, then why take a chance.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 51,029
    The more damaged a record is, the harder it is on the needle.
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  • Dr. Delight
    Dr. Delight Posts: 11,210
    Oh man......
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  • timmay44212
    timmay44212 Posts: 107
    Good lord. Was this a crosley by chance? Because shaving of the vinyl would be considered normal then...
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  • dudeman
    dudeman Posts: 3,227
    Out of curiosity, what is the tracking force on your stylus? Recommended and actual?
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  • buck502000
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  • JB128716
    JB128716 Posts: 2,064
    Nickelback will also damage your needle and your ears.

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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    Won't hurt the needle. It's the hard part. Just sound bad.
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  • Longest Road
    Longest Road Posts: 264
    The tracking force should be between 1.5-2 Grams, no more, no less. I own a record store, I got this one....This is the silliest thing I have seen, turntable wise. Are you playing the "Etched" side of the "Touch Me I'm Dick red 45"??? DO NO DO THAT. If your needle it Grooving your records, take your deck and a 50 foot long piece of rope. Tie one end of the rope to the deck, and the other to your car. Now drive to Sound Stage Direct, ask for Jay, and he will hook you up.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 51,029
    edited October 2015
    callen said:

    Won't hurt the needle. It's the hard part. Just sound bad.

    How do you figure? Needles get worn faster when you use them on damaged vinyl. Though I'm not sure why anyone would want to play a gouged record either way, lol.
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  • Dr. Delight
    Dr. Delight Posts: 11,210
    These posts by this dude cannot be real...can they?
    Gotta be straight up trolling.
    Lol at "chiseled vinyl"
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  • lexicondevil
    lexicondevil Posts: 2,351
    Dr. Delight said:

    These posts by this dude cannot be real...can they?
    Gotta be straight up trolling.
    Lol at "chiseled vinyl"

    Pretty much. The whole "shaved the record" nonsense was funny though. I would suggest using a very lathery shaving cream on all of your records. Be safe and try it out first on a Benny.
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  • Jammalambo
    Jammalambo Posts: 1,321
    lexicondevil said:

    Dr. Delight said:

    These posts by this dude cannot be real...can they?
    Gotta be straight up trolling.
    Lol at "chiseled vinyl"

    Pretty much. The whole "shaved the record" nonsense was funny though. I would suggest using a very lathery shaving cream on all of your records. Be safe and try it out first on a Benny.
    Damn, I just ruined my Benny.. why I did that? Thanks very much lexicon, you really are a devil.
  • JP33
    JP33 Posts: 1,348
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    dudeman said:

    Out of curiosity, what is the tracking force on your stylus? Recommended and actual?

  • PJfanwillneverleave1
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    buck502000 said:

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    I am being serious.
    About 2yrs ago I asked the boards to recommend a nice starter record player. I trusted the opinion of a poster here and I purchased this one.
    All my records newer and older play just fine.
    I know there are wayyyyyy better players out there but for my ears this does the job.
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  • bazzer
    bazzer Posts: 3,126
    On the other hand, if you used a crappy old needle, it's quite possible that your new needle would sit lower in the groove than your old one ever did. In other words, it's basically down in virgin vinyl territory. Could sound better than ever!
  • Longest Road
    Longest Road Posts: 264
    I know a bit about this, go to Sound Stage Direct's web site, ask for Seth, tell him Brion sent you, and ask for a good price on a VPI Traveler Turntable, get the Red Orfton, he usually cuts a deal if you buy a deck and an amp. You will need an amp (I recommend Marantz) or a Huge pre-amp, and I don't even think a preamp will do it justice. You pay for what you get in the vinyl world.
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  • FrankY59
    FrankY59 Posts: 1,051
    edited October 2015
    Longest Road said:

    I know a bit about this, go to Sound Stage Direct's web site, ask for Seth, tell him Brion sent you, and ask for a good price on a VPI Traveler Turntable, get the Red Orfton, he usually cuts a deal if you buy a deck and an amp. You will need an amp (I recommend Marantz) or a Huge pre-amp, and I don't even think a preamp will do it justice. You pay for what you get in the vinyl world.

    Soundstage Direct just had a program where you can trade in for FULL price your existing turntable. Couldn't pass it up so turned in my Rega RP1 for a VPI Scout 1.1. I mentioned I buy a bunch of albums from their website and he gave me the blue ortolan cartridge for the price of red. Just got it in the mail yesterday and all set up with some Zeppelin playing as I type...
  • lexicondevil
    lexicondevil Posts: 2,351
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    buck502000 said:

    photo 648824_zpsg4jbodge.jpg

    I am being serious.
    About 2yrs ago I asked the boards to recommend a nice starter record player. I trusted the opinion of a poster here and I purchased this one.
    All my records newer and older play just fine.
    I know there are wayyyyyy better players out there but for my ears this does the job.
    image

    You might not see immediate damage, but in time you will. This is a good article that pretty clearly explains some of the disadvantages of playing records of any worth on a Crosley. best-turntables.com/avoid-crosley-turntables/
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  • lexicondevil
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    Jammalambo said:

    lexicondevil said:

    Dr. Delight said:

    These posts by this dude cannot be real...can they?
    Gotta be straight up trolling.
    Lol at "chiseled vinyl"

    Pretty much. The whole "shaved the record" nonsense was funny though. I would suggest using a very lathery shaving cream on all of your records. Be safe and try it out first on a Benny.
    Damn, I just ruined my Benny.. why I did that? Thanks very much lexicon, you really are a devil.
    Try it again on a PJ20 colored record. This time put a brick on the tonearm. This is guaranteed to get you the deepest sound possible.
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    1992- Lollapalooza, Irvine, California
    Nothing since then. I suck.
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    2022- Oakland Night 2
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