Songs the band do not like playing

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  • giventofly69
    giventofly69 Vancouver Posts: 850
    JB128716 said:

    rummy said:

    Papaljuice said:

    Dirty Frank

    Yes, Ed called it a "shitty song" at Gorge 2006.
    He's right ya know. Sounds like someone wanted to copy RHCP and failed.
    Yes, terrible song.

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 51,029
    edited August 2015
    JB128716 said:

    rummy said:

    Papaljuice said:

    Dirty Frank

    Yes, Ed called it a "shitty song" at Gorge 2006.
    He's right ya know. Sounds like someone wanted to copy RHCP and failed.
    They were copying RHCP - they wrote it while on tour with them.
    I don't think they failed though....and I quite like Dirty Frank!
    I definitely think Sweet Lew is the worst Pearl Jam song ever though. Fuck, that voice. I don't wtf Jeff was thinking.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • 1ThoughtKnown
    1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155
    edited August 2015
    PJ_Soul said:

    JB128716 said:

    rummy said:

    Papaljuice said:

    Dirty Frank

    Yes, Ed called it a "shitty song" at Gorge 2006.
    He's right ya know. Sounds like someone wanted to copy RHCP and failed.
    They were copying RHCP - they wrote it while on tour with them.
    I don't think they failed though....and I quite like Dirty Frank!
    I definitely think Sweet Lew is the worst Pearl Jam song ever though. Fuck, that voice. I don't wtf Jeff was thinking.
    It's never a good idea to "copy" someone and record it. They should have just covered a RHCP song.
    Besides, Ed was in Bad Radio and they were a cheesy RHCP wannabe outfit. I am not entirely sure, but I would imagine it was one of the reasons he left the group.
    Post edited by 1ThoughtKnown on
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,844
    PJ_Soul said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    I would say that all the songs people call their white whale songs are considered songs that they don't enjoy playing.
    I mean who really wants to hear ghost or gods dice or sweet Lew?

    I LOVE to hear Ghost and God's Dice - Riot Act and Binaural are my #1 and #2 albums (interchangeably). :) And I have been lucky enough to catch both live. Hope I get to again.
    But yeah, no one wants to hear Sweet Lew, lol.
    Totally agree. I love "Ghost" and here's why (I wrote this a couple of years ago):

    One of the things I love about skillful songwriting is the use of subtle texturing to add meaning to a song. I've been thinking about this while listening to "Ghost" lately. (I'm not proficient at music theory but I'll try my best to explain what I mean here.) The opening chord of "Ghost" is played for one measure only and the second chord for two and after that the pattern goes to a more familiar AA/BB (or AA/BC) pattern. That jump from the first chord to the second adds a subtle sense of urgency or even anxiety to the song- at least to my ears- and I like that. It gives the song added dimension. I've noticed the same thing happens now and then in some of Keith Richards opening guitar parts lines on some of the songs, for example, on "Exile on Main St." On close listening to the intros of songs like "Happy" and "Tumbling Dice" you hear these unexpected notes slipped in-- and done so very intentionally.

    Pearl Jam's music never ceases to amaze me. I love the way you can listen to their stuff for a long time and still find something new. Very cool.

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  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,747
    Rival
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 51,029
    edited August 2015
    1ThoughtKnown said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    JB128716 said:

    rummy said:

    Papaljuice said:

    Dirty Frank

    Yes, Ed called it a "shitty song" at Gorge 2006.
    He's right ya know. Sounds like someone wanted to copy RHCP and failed.
    They were copying RHCP - they wrote it while on tour with them.
    I don't think they failed though....and I quite like Dirty Frank!
    I definitely think Sweet Lew is the worst Pearl Jam song ever though. Fuck, that voice. I don't wtf Jeff was thinking.
    It's never a good idea to "copy" someone and record it. They should have just covered a RHCP song.
    Besides, Ed was in Bad Radio and they were a cheesy RHCP wannabe outfit. I am not entirely sure, but I would imagine it was one of the reasons he left the group.
    Well I'd more call it inspired by RHCP. They obviously just wanted to try out that funk style. I think you may be taking the song too seriously TBH! It wasn't meant to be a serious song. They were basically just fucking around while on a crazy tour and then recorded it. It was never meant for a studio album or anything. It's just a fun song! "That Dirty Frank is a baaaad motherfucker!" :lol:
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • 23scidoo
    23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 20,312
    dimitrispearljam said:

    Rival

    Yep..
    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

    I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
  • northerndragon
    northerndragon Posts: 9,851
    dimitrispearljam said:

    Rival

    This makes me sad, this is a phenomenal song.
    Anything you lose from being honest
    You never really had to begin with.


    Sometimes it's not the song that makes you emotional it's the people and things that come to your mind when you hear it.
  • Sarava
    Sarava Naperville, IL Posts: 2,071
    rummy said:

    demetrios said:

    Sirens

    I'm very curious to see how this one stands the test of time. Will it be played much this fall and beyond? It was even dropped from a few shows in the fall of 2014.
    Yeah I saw PJ twice in the fall tour last year and they didn't play it at either of the shows (St. Louis and Moline). I do like the song, but whatever they replace it with is fine as far as I'm concerned.
  • rummy
    rummy British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,466
    dimitrispearljam said:

    Rival

    The most glaring omission from the 2013-2014 LB tour. Great tune that has been played just twice since 2003. A real shame.
  • 1ThoughtKnown
    1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155
    PJ_Soul said:

    1ThoughtKnown said:

    JB128716 said:

    rummy said:

    Papaljuice said:

    Dirty Frank

    Yes, Ed called it a "shitty song" at Gorge 2006.
    He's right ya know. Sounds like someone wanted to copy RHCP and failed.
    They were copying RHCP - they wrote it while on tour with them.
    I don't think they failed though....and I quite like Dirty Frank!
    I definitely think Sweet Lew is the worst Pearl Jam song ever though. Fuck, that voice. I don't wtf Jeff was thinking.
    It's never a good idea to "copy" someone and record it. They should have just covered a RHCP song.
    Besides, Ed was in Bad Radio and they were a cheesy RHCP wannabe outfit. I am not entirely sure, but I would imagine it was one of the reasons he left the group.
    Well I'd more call it inspired by RHCP. They obviously just wanted to try out that funk style. I think you may be taking the song too seriously TBH! It wasn't meant to be a serious song. They were basically just fucking around while on a crazy tour and then recorded it. It was never meant for a studio album or anything. It's just a fun song! "That Dirty Frank is a baaaad motherfucker!" :lol:


    That's the point. It wasn't taken seriously, it wasn't meant for a studio album, it should never have been recorded (showing their inexperience at the time).
    You can like the song, I really don't care, but it is pure crap. Point is, the band knows this and you will never, ever, hear it played live again.
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    ^^^^
    Some people consider it their whale song.....
  • 1ThoughtKnown
    1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155
    ^^^^
    The point of the thread is, songs the BAND doesn't like playing, not what the fans like.
    Some people consider Creed a good band too, that's their opinion.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 51,029
    Well I'm glad it was recorded. I don't understand why anyone would ever utter the words "it should never have been recorded", unless they are the ones paying for the studio time.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • 1ThoughtKnown
    1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155
    edited September 2015
    PJ_Soul said:

    Well I'm glad it was recorded. I don't understand why anyone would ever utter the words "it should never have been recorded", unless they are the ones paying for the studio time.

    I'm glad you are glad. The lead singer of the band, who called it a "shitty song" probably wishes it was never recorded.
    Then again, maybe they love the song, and the "shitty song" comment was in jest, and that's why they have played the song twice since 1994 :smiley:
    Post edited by 1ThoughtKnown on
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,292
    1ThoughtKnown said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Well I'm glad it was recorded. I don't understand why anyone would ever utter the words "it should never have been recorded", unless they are the ones paying for the studio time.

    I'm glad you are glad. The lead singer of the band, who called it a "shitty song" probably wishes it was never recorded.
    Then again, maybe they love the song, and the "shitty song" comment was in jest, and that's why they have played the song twice since 1994 :smiley:
    Lol. That was awesome!
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited September 2015
    ^^^^
    That is funny.
    I remember liking that song when it first came out (I still have the single tape) simply because at that time as a Pearl Jam fan it was your duty to like every single song Pearl Jam put out - no questions.
    Now as time has passed I am comfortable saying that I am a huge Pearl Jam fan but am embarrassed by some songs they have made and would never subject them on anyone.
    Sweet Lew and Dirty Frank are two that come to mind......
    Post edited by PJfanwillneverleave1 on
  • 1ThoughtKnown
    1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155
    edited September 2015
    ^^^^
    Exactly. It's like meeting the man/woman of your dreams. For a while you can do no wrong, they are blinded by your infatuation.
    25 years later you reminisce and realize, there were a few places you went and prefer not to go again, in fact, if you could do it all over again you would change those things.
    You love him/her more now than ever, but that early inexperience came with a few mistakes you wish everyone would forget

    From now on, all my early mistakes are going to be called Dirty Franks or Sweet Lews :lol:
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 51,029
    edited September 2015
    1ThoughtKnown said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Well I'm glad it was recorded. I don't understand why anyone would ever utter the words "it should never have been recorded", unless they are the ones paying for the studio time.

    I'm glad you are glad. The lead singer of the band, who called it a "shitty song" probably wishes it was never recorded.
    Then again, maybe they love the song, and the "shitty song" comment was in jest, and that's why they have played the song twice since 1994 :smiley:
    I have no idea and don't care what they think of it. I just think it's a fun and goofy song and I don't see why anyone wouldn't want any song recorded. They put it on Lost Dogs in 2003, so they couldn't have hated it so much they didn't want people to listen to it.
    (I too feel uncomfortable listening to Sweet Lew and a few others though. I think most people know that I have no problems disliking PJ songs).
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • lolobugg
    lolobugg BLUE RDGE MTNS Posts: 8,195
    Dirty Frank always reminds me of the summer of 1993... working a shitty job at a grocery store.. used to play the Alive import single all the time. I have no problem with the song... it is what it is... just a "fucking around on tour song".

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