El Chapo

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/07/12/inside-el-chapo-s-brazen-escape.html#

do you think he'll get caught ?......again ! , this is his second escape and he's probably hiding in the US for now.

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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    or.......maybe he's hang'n with Donald..HAHAHHAHHAHHAHA

    Godfather.
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,745
    Guy like that cant stay underground. He'll surface and people will die in recapturing him.
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  • brianlux
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    He's a robot and will make you his pet.
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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    No - the guy didn't just "escape", he had much assistance in doing so. And, it seems much forethought, preparation and physical work was put into that tunnel.

    Is it safe to assume he had some help from the inside too?

    (and, to the journalist person who wrote this article..."but his dramatic escape is almost sure to make him a folk hero despite countless wrecked lives and thousands of murdered innocents." Really? Fuck you, Michael Daly.)
  • Shawshank
    Shawshank Posts: 1,018
    Have you seen this asshole's Twitter page? I get a sense his ego will be his ultimate demise.
  • Gern Blansten
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  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    Reminds me of the plot in the movie "Swat".
  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    Do you think this guy was pissed off and nervous when he heard about those two guys from New York?
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327

    Do you think this guy was pissed off and nervous when he heard about those two guys from New York?

    Nah, those bros didn't have $3B to bribe the guards along with personal death squads to make sure any guard wouldn't be kissing their ass 24/7. He was probably pissed it took this long.

    Did you see his digs in prison. He had a bathtub in his cell with sliding glass privacy doors and a private closet as far as the pictures showed. I've seen documentaries of Mexican prisons. You are lucky if they give you a rock for a pillow.

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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    Good ole corruption. Course we have it here as well. Money talks.
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    mexicos government can be bought more easily than most and a less money than one would expect
    so el chopa's escape is no big surprise really but before it's all said and done he will end up just like pablo escabar because a new cartel will cut a better deal with the mexican government then the mexican government will "ASK" the US government for help to capture el chopa, the US govenment will fly in under the rador cap his ass and give the credit to the mexican police who will only be too happy to gather around his dead body for photos and hold up his severed head as a sign of streanth.

    Godfather.
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    edited July 2015
    We have unlimited corporate campaign donations from lobbyists and news organizations funded by advertisers. All relative.
    Though agree it's shameful how Mexican government seems powerless in dealing with powerful prisoners. And have been shaken down by Mexican police. Typical. Did have local Constable in Houston ask me for cash donation. Told him I didn't have cash and let me go no ticket.

    Let's just legalize all drugs including the hard stuff. Treat medically with good education for our youth. Legalize prostitution and control our guns that go into Mexico.

    The Callen.
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    callen said:

    We have unlimited corporate campaign donations from lobbyists and news organizations funded by advertisers. All relative.
    Though agree it's shameful how Mexican government seems powerless in dealing with powerful prisoners. And have been shaken down by Mexican police. Typical. Did have local Constable in Houston ask me for cash donation. Told him I didn't have cash and let me go no ticket.

    Let's just legalize all drugs including the hard stuff. Treat medically with good education for our youth. Legalize prostitution and control our guns that go into Mexico.

    The Callen.

    legalizing all drugs including the hard stuff is not the answer death and crime will crime will sky rocket, I don't know if you've ever seen a herion junky hurting and willing to do anything to get better but it's not pretty...AIDS and other STD's will be even worse than they are now, you can't compare a drunk to a junky either the pain and suffering of a junky turns people into something they never thought possible,
    I've heaed the stories of other countries making places for junkies to legally do thier thing but I'll bet the death and crime that happens in those areas is mind boggeling not to mention the lifes that are simply ruined.

    Godfather.

  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,036

    callen said:

    We have unlimited corporate campaign donations from lobbyists and news organizations funded by advertisers. All relative.
    Though agree it's shameful how Mexican government seems powerless in dealing with powerful prisoners. And have been shaken down by Mexican police. Typical. Did have local Constable in Houston ask me for cash donation. Told him I didn't have cash and let me go no ticket.

    Let's just legalize all drugs including the hard stuff. Treat medically with good education for our youth. Legalize prostitution and control our guns that go into Mexico.

    The Callen.

    legalizing all drugs including the hard stuff is not the answer death and crime will crime will sky rocket, I don't know if you've ever seen a herion junky hurting and willing to do anything to get better but it's not pretty...AIDS and other STD's will be even worse than they are now, you can't compare a drunk to a junky either the pain and suffering of a junky turns people into something they never thought possible,
    I've heaed the stories of other countries making places for junkies to legally do thier thing but I'll bet the death and crime that happens in those areas is mind boggeling not to mention the lifes that are simply ruined.

    Godfather.

    I don't necessarily think full scale legalization is the answer, but I also know that the fact that heroin is against the law doesn't deter one god damn junkie in the streets. The problem is that cops don't do real cop work anymore because they know if they bust someone for low level possession, they get OT for showing up to court. Minimize the penalties for possession and benefits for cops arresting people for possession and they will be forced to do actual police work. Things like concentrating on rape and other violent crimes. Then you get the actual problem junkies off the street and not just anyone with a bag.
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504

    callen said:

    We have unlimited corporate campaign donations from lobbyists and news organizations funded by advertisers. All relative.
    Though agree it's shameful how Mexican government seems powerless in dealing with powerful prisoners. And have been shaken down by Mexican police. Typical. Did have local Constable in Houston ask me for cash donation. Told him I didn't have cash and let me go no ticket.

    Let's just legalize all drugs including the hard stuff. Treat medically with good education for our youth. Legalize prostitution and control our guns that go into Mexico.

    The Callen.

    legalizing all drugs including the hard stuff is not the answer death and crime will crime will sky rocket, I don't know if you've ever seen a herion junky hurting and willing to do anything to get better but it's not pretty...AIDS and other STD's will be even worse than they are now, you can't compare a drunk to a junky either the pain and suffering of a junky turns people into something they never thought possible,
    I've heaed the stories of other countries making places for junkies to legally do thier thing but I'll bet the death and crime that happens in those areas is mind boggeling not to mention the lifes that are simply ruined.

    Godfather.

    I don't necessarily think full scale legalization is the answer, but I also know that the fact that heroin is against the law doesn't deter one god damn junkie in the streets. The problem is that cops don't do real cop work anymore because they know if they bust someone for low level possession, they get OT for showing up to court. Minimize the penalties for possession and benefits for cops arresting people for possession and they will be forced to do actual police work. Things like concentrating on rape and other violent crimes. Then you get the actual problem junkies off the street and not just anyone with a bag.
    that's something to think about....I like it.

    Godfather.

  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856

    callen said:

    We have unlimited corporate campaign donations from lobbyists and news organizations funded by advertisers. All relative.
    Though agree it's shameful how Mexican government seems powerless in dealing with powerful prisoners. And have been shaken down by Mexican police. Typical. Did have local Constable in Houston ask me for cash donation. Told him I didn't have cash and let me go no ticket.

    Let's just legalize all drugs including the hard stuff. Treat medically with good education for our youth. Legalize prostitution and control our guns that go into Mexico.

    The Callen.

    legalizing all drugs including the hard stuff is not the answer death and crime will crime will sky rocket, I don't know if you've ever seen a herion junky hurting and willing to do anything to get better but it's not pretty...AIDS and other STD's will be even worse than they are now, you can't compare a drunk to a junky either the pain and suffering of a junky turns people into something they never thought possible,
    I've heaed the stories of other countries making places for junkies to legally do thier thing but I'll bet the death and crime that happens in those areas is mind boggeling not to mention the lifes that are simply ruined.

    Godfather.

    Not sure if this is quite what you mean but there is a supervised injection site in Vancouver, BC. IV drug users can use the facilities to inject drugs that they bring in (i.e. drugs aren't provided), using the clean rigs provided in a warm, dry environment and with medical staff around if needed. There are counseling services onsite for those wanting to stop using, but the overall approach is one of harm reduction. The area has been one of "death and crime" for far longer than the supervised injection site has been there - that's why it was located there. Their evidence for reduction in disease transmission, crime and human misery is strong; despite this, our federal government keeps trying to shut it down, but luckily without success so far.
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  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    edited July 2015

    callen said:

    We have unlimited corporate campaign donations from lobbyists and news organizations funded by advertisers. All relative.
    Though agree it's shameful how Mexican government seems powerless in dealing with powerful prisoners. And have been shaken down by Mexican police. Typical. Did have local Constable in Houston ask me for cash donation. Told him I didn't have cash and let me go no ticket.

    Let's just legalize all drugs including the hard stuff. Treat medically with good education for our youth. Legalize prostitution and control our guns that go into Mexico.

    The Callen.

    legalizing all drugs including the hard stuff is not the answer death and crime will crime will sky rocket, I don't know if you've ever seen a herion junky hurting and willing to do anything to get better but it's not pretty...AIDS and other STD's will be even worse than they are now, you can't compare a drunk to a junky either the pain and suffering of a junky turns people into something they never thought possible,
    I've heaed the stories of other countries making places for junkies to legally do thier thing but I'll bet the death and crime that happens in those areas is mind boggeling not to mention the lifes that are simply ruined.

    Godfather.
    Would you run out and get some heroin if it was legalized?
    Me neither.




  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504

    callen said:

    We have unlimited corporate campaign donations from lobbyists and news organizations funded by advertisers. All relative.
    Though agree it's shameful how Mexican government seems powerless in dealing with powerful prisoners. And have been shaken down by Mexican police. Typical. Did have local Constable in Houston ask me for cash donation. Told him I didn't have cash and let me go no ticket.

    Let's just legalize all drugs including the hard stuff. Treat medically with good education for our youth. Legalize prostitution and control our guns that go into Mexico.

    The Callen.

    legalizing all drugs including the hard stuff is not the answer death and crime will crime will sky rocket, I don't know if you've ever seen a herion junky hurting and willing to do anything to get better but it's not pretty...AIDS and other STD's will be even worse than they are now, you can't compare a drunk to a junky either the pain and suffering of a junky turns people into something they never thought possible,
    I've heaed the stories of other countries making places for junkies to legally do thier thing but I'll bet the death and crime that happens in those areas is mind boggeling not to mention the lifes that are simply ruined.

    Godfather.
    Would you run out and get some heroin if it was legalized?
    Me neither.




    mybe not you or I but there will be many that will and you can bank on that.

    Godfather.

  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177

    callen said:

    We have unlimited corporate campaign donations from lobbyists and news organizations funded by advertisers. All relative.
    Though agree it's shameful how Mexican government seems powerless in dealing with powerful prisoners. And have been shaken down by Mexican police. Typical. Did have local Constable in Houston ask me for cash donation. Told him I didn't have cash and let me go no ticket.

    Let's just legalize all drugs including the hard stuff. Treat medically with good education for our youth. Legalize prostitution and control our guns that go into Mexico.

    The Callen.

    legalizing all drugs including the hard stuff is not the answer death and crime will crime will sky rocket, I don't know if you've ever seen a herion junky hurting and willing to do anything to get better but it's not pretty...AIDS and other STD's will be even worse than they are now, you can't compare a drunk to a junky either the pain and suffering of a junky turns people into something they never thought possible,
    I've heaed the stories of other countries making places for junkies to legally do thier thing but I'll bet the death and crime that happens in those areas is mind boggeling not to mention the lifes that are simply ruined.

    Godfather.
    Would you run out and get some heroin if it was legalized?
    Me neither.




    mybe not you or I but there will be many that will and you can bank on that.

    Godfather.

    I'm sure there would be a few who would try it because it was legal. But most clear thinking people will stay away. Anyone with half a brain knows the potential harm. But with legalization comes regulation. That regulation can lead to consistent quality standards for the product, which will result in fewer ODs. And the regulation would likely be supported by taxes which could then fund education and treatment. Instead we have an illegal drug which is not controlled. Nobody knows what they're buying, and we're spending a fortune on ineffective law enforcement and incarceration, which doesn't deal with any of the root issues. Lastly, legalization cuts into the criminal black market, thus reducing crime. So legalization would likely save lives and save taxpayer money and reduce crime.
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  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056

    callen said:

    We have unlimited corporate campaign donations from lobbyists and news organizations funded by advertisers. All relative.
    Though agree it's shameful how Mexican government seems powerless in dealing with powerful prisoners. And have been shaken down by Mexican police. Typical. Did have local Constable in Houston ask me for cash donation. Told him I didn't have cash and let me go no ticket.

    Let's just legalize all drugs including the hard stuff. Treat medically with good education for our youth. Legalize prostitution and control our guns that go into Mexico.

    The Callen.

    legalizing all drugs including the hard stuff is not the answer death and crime will crime will sky rocket, I don't know if you've ever seen a herion junky hurting and willing to do anything to get better but it's not pretty...AIDS and other STD's will be even worse than they are now, you can't compare a drunk to a junky either the pain and suffering of a junky turns people into something they never thought possible,
    I've heaed the stories of other countries making places for junkies to legally do thier thing but I'll bet the death and crime that happens in those areas is mind boggeling not to mention the lifes that are simply ruined.

    Godfather.
    Would you run out and get some heroin if it was legalized?
    Me neither.


    mybe not you or I but there will be many that will and you can bank on that.

    Godfather.

    No I can't. We've been through this before....I post information, you refuse to process and accept it. Why is that? Is this so ingrained in your psyche that you will not accept scientific evidence because of your predetermined beliefs? Will anything (any fact) change your mind?

    HIV infections do not increase, they decrease. If use increases for any drug, it is minimal....but with hard drugs, usage rates tend to trend downward. When comparing the harm done by prohibition to the harm done by slight increases in use of 'soft' drugs, the benefits are obvious. That's without the COST/benefit analysis. Throw in the correlation between increased use of MJ/soft drugs, and decreased alcohol use, and there is no good reason to continue the drug war.


    http://object.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/pubs/pdf/greenwald_whitepaper.pdf
    Since decriminalization, lifetime prevalence rates (..) in Portugal have decreased for various age groups. For students in the 7th–9th grades (13–15 years old), the rate decreased from 14.1 percent in 2001 to 10.6 percent in 2006.30 For those in the 10th–12th grades (16–18 years old), the lifetime prevalence rate, which increased from 14.1 percent in 1995 to 27.6 percent in 2001, the year of decriminalization,has decreased subsequent to decriminalization, to 21.6 percent in 2006.31 For the same groups, prevalence rates for psychoactive substances have also decreased subsequent to decriminalization.32 In fact, for those two critical groups of youth (13–15 years and 16–18 years), prevalence rates have declined for virtually every substance since decriminalization (see Figures 4 and 5).33
    (...)
    Perhaps most strikingly, while prevalence rates for the period from 1999 to 2005, for the 16–18 age group, increased somewhat for cannabis (9.4 to 15.1 percent) and for drugs generally (12.3 to 17.7 percent), the prevalence rate decreased during that same period for heroin (2.5 to 1.8 percent),40 the substance that Portuguese drug officials believed was far and away the most socially destructive.
    (...)
    the percentage of drug users among newly infected HIV-positive individuals continues to decline.

    More reading for ya:
    http://content.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1893946,00.html