Boston Marathon - explosion

badbrains said:

Assholes been found guilty and sentenced to death. Can we let this thread die now, no pun intended.

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Edit: Often... this was a response to your post. I have a tablet that I might fire into the garbage. It screws up the quote feature and sometimes when I'm typing... all of a sudden my cursor has moved into the quoted portion of the text and my post has become a mess. I had a more elaborate and fancy response, but my tablet buggered it up and, after deleting the horrific draft I had assembled for myself... I moved to my laptop to offer you this..

oftenreading said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Definitely the rare and obscene cases.

In the case of the 16 year old gangster murdering another 16 year old gangster, Norway's system is perfect: there is an actual effort made towards rehabilitation where rehabilitation can be appreciated. I'm pretty sure there are many in Norway that wish they could be more selective with their efforts- who's interested in rehabilitating Breivik (or people like Clifford Olson)?

I do have to tip my hat to Norway given they say they are interested in rehabilitating criminal offenders and do a good job realizing this goal. We have the same goals in North America, however our efforts fail given the fact that we really haven't made the commitment required to achieve the results (in essence... we truly don't care).

The nature of the crime drives my thought process. Let the punishment fit the crime. If you blow a bunch of people up at the Boston Marathon... you can go. If you got tangled up in a drug deal gone badly... let's work on you.

Edit: Often... this was a response to your post. I have a tablet that I might fire into the garbage. It screws up the quote feature and sometimes when I'm typing... all of a sudden my cursor has moved into the quoted portion of the text and my post has become a mess. I had a more elaborate and fancy response, but my tablet buggered it up and, after deleting the horrific draft I had assembled for myself... I moved to my laptop to offer you this..

Thanks Thirty - I, too, know the pain of the carefully crafted post that gets whisked into the void by a poorly functioning keyboard , and who really feels like typing it all out twice?

I won't presume to know the opinions of Norwegians, but I've read that generally they were satisfied with Breivik's sentence, which is the maximum allowable by Norwegian law - 21 years in custody (with the provision for extension if the inmate is not judged to be rehabilitated). They seem content to allow him his kick at the rehabilitation can and see how it goes. Now Clifford Olson ..... I think we can all agree that's not a guy who was ever going to be rehabilitated. (Bernardo? I'm pretty sure no. Pickton? I think there's a lot we don't know about what went on there; he is unlikely to have been the brains of that operation.)

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

oftenreading said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Definitely the rare and obscene cases.

In the case of the 16 year old gangster murdering another 16 year old gangster, Norway's system is perfect: there is an actual effort made towards rehabilitation where rehabilitation can be appreciated. I'm pretty sure there are many in Norway that wish they could be more selective with their efforts- who's interested in rehabilitating Breivik (or people like Clifford Olson)?

I do have to tip my hat to Norway given they say they are interested in rehabilitating criminal offenders and do a good job realizing this goal. We have the same goals in North America, however our efforts fail given the fact that we really haven't made the commitment required to achieve the results (in essence... we truly don't care).

The nature of the crime drives my thought process. Let the punishment fit the crime. If you blow a bunch of people up at the Boston Marathon... you can go. If you got tangled up in a drug deal gone badly... let's work on you.

Edit: Often... this was a response to your post. I have a tablet that I might fire into the garbage. It screws up the quote feature and sometimes when I'm typing... all of a sudden my cursor has moved into the quoted portion of the text and my post has become a mess. I had a more elaborate and fancy response, but my tablet buggered it up and, after deleting the horrific draft I had assembled for myself... I moved to my laptop to offer you this..

Thanks Thirty - I, too, know the pain of the carefully crafted post that gets whisked into the void by a poorly functioning keyboard , and who really feels like typing it all out twice?

I won't presume to know the opinions of Norwegians, but I've read that generally they were satisfied with Breivik's sentence, which is the maximum allowable by Norwegian law - 21 years in custody (with the provision for extension if the inmate is not judged to be rehabilitated). They seem content to allow him his kick at the rehabilitation can and see how it goes. Now Clifford Olson ..... I think we can all agree that's not a guy who was ever going to be rehabilitated. (Bernardo? I'm pretty sure no. Pickton? I think there's a lot we don't know about what went on there; he is unlikely to have been the brains of that operation.)

I would think regardless of Norway's value system, there are many that look at that situation for what it is and would prefer to see Breivik hung versus going on hunger strike because the prison limits his choices of video games (no joke). I have 'One of Us' in the queue right now- hopefully it offers a chance at a perspective that we are speculating about.

As to your question of balance and priorities with regards to a penal system... may I suggest you repeat it and offer it in the DP thread?

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