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  • Abe Froman
    Abe Froman Posts: 5,378
    edited April 2015
    mca47 said:

    PJ20.
    I know a lot of people will grumble about this, but for me it was a HUGE disappointment. I had a blast hanging out and tailgating with everyone but the shows were pretty "meh".
    For a show ABOUT Pearl Jam, I was bummed when practically every song had a "guest" musician.
    Probably didn't help that my seats sucked too. First night under the pavilion three people from the end...the sound was horrible! It was just loud noise.
    Second night (Speedy can attest to this) I was literally 3.5 miles away. I could have easily just stayed in the parking lot and drank far cheaper beer.
    That said, I still had fun, but the shows themselves were highly disappointing.

    Weird how different experiences can be. I had one of the best weekends of my life! Loved the guest artists during the PJ set and thought the TOTD stuff was perfect for the setting. Not to mention all the other acts all weekend. Damn that shit was fun. I guess it helps that I love QOTSA, Glen Hansard, Liam Finn, Mudhoney, X, and Chris Cornell.

    Also, Wrigley for me was a blast and wouldn't trade the experience but I think the storm definitely put a dampner on what that show could've been. I definitely wasn't disappointed though. Something felt special about thousands of people singing along to PJ at 2am in Wrigley field.
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  • jarkkonieminen
    jarkkonieminen Melbourne, Australia Posts: 127
    I travelled from Australia to Missoula for the 2012 show and while the experience of seeing PJ in a small venue was great, the setlist wasn't the best for me personally. I only got one song out of 29 I had heard before and it was only my 12th show.
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  • BinFrog
    BinFrog MA Posts: 7,314

    I was not all that enthused about Camden Night II in 2003. I left that show telling a friend that my first year really following the band around was not ending with that show. So I turned around a week later and drove 14 hours to Boston for Night 3 of the Experiment.

    Funny. From 7-2 to 7-11, the only show I missed was Camden 2.
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  • Get_Right
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    FrankieG said:

    4th furthest I have traveled to a show was Lolla 07. It was my first real music festival and I expected them to play over curfew... That was disappointing when they didn't, but really I shouldn't have expected them to play over curfew at a festival. The show was great, and we have a great spot, so really it wasn't really that disappointing, but that would be most disappointing out of the ones I have flown to.

    What was disappointing about that show was that they came out 15mins late because they were partying with Rodman!
  • mca47
    mca47 Posts: 13,334
    imalive said:

    "3.5 miles away"..... I know that wasn't meant to be funny, but it is :lol:

    image
    These guys were next to us at PJ20. Father and son at a rock concert...it was sweet to see.
    I captured this photo and their conversation was like this:
    Billy: "Dad, I think I see Eddie".
    Dad: "No son, that is one of the guest singers. You may want to adjust your focus as we're 3.5 miles away".
    Billy: "Oh, you're right dad. I can see them now! But why is there a delay? I see Eddie singing but the sound doesn't get here until afterwards..."
    Dad: "You see Billy, light travels much faster than sound. Because we are 3.5 miles away, what you see gets here faster than what you hear. Does this make sense?"
    Billy: "Yeah dad, but why couldn't we just get better tickets?"
    Dad: "You see Billy, that is how the Ten Club works. You should just be glad you got the tickets you did."
    Billy: "But didn't you say you've been in the Ten Club for 20 years and here we are 3.5 miles away?"
    Dad: "Yes Billy, it's best to not ask questions like that...besides, here comes another guest singer...you don't want to miss it!"
    MCA47: "Hey, do you mind if I take a look....I can't see shit!"
    Dad: "Sure, Billy...let that good looking drunk guy take a look through your telescope."
    MCA47: *Looks through telescope* "Ah, fuck, here comes Cornell again..."
    Dad: "You were here last night I take it?"
    MCA47: "Yeah, last night I could see them without a telescope, but I couldn't hear shit. Tonight, I can hear them, but I can't see shit."
    Dad: "You see, good looking drunk fellow...it's almost impossible to see anything with the naked eye 3.5 miles away..."
    MCA47: "Fuck it, I'm gonna get another beer..."
  • red mos
    red mos Posts: 4,953
    edited April 2015

    I would have to say Tulsa 2014. But that was just me personally. I know it was a great show, it just didn't have many of my favorites. But others I talked to just loved it! On the other hand, Lincoln 2014 was superb!

    Tulsa was good, but, they scrapped thin air, sleight of hand, and another one. Wish they would have played dirty frank like Ed had teased. Crowd went nuts. That was really a bummer, they didn't play it. Really good version of black though. Overall good set, but it was also the shortest set on the tour. 29 songs is still great, but now they do 30- 38 songs.
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  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,459
    mca47 said:

    imalive said:

    "3.5 miles away"..... I know that wasn't meant to be funny, but it is :lol:

    image
    These guys were next to us at PJ20. Father and son at a rock concert...it was sweet to see.
    I captured this photo and their conversation was like this:
    Billy: "Dad, I think I see Eddie".
    Dad: "No son, that is one of the guest singers. You may want to adjust your focus as we're 3.5 miles away".
    Billy: "Oh, you're right dad. I can see them now! But why is there a delay? I see Eddie singing but the sound doesn't get here until afterwards..."
    Dad: "You see Billy, light travels much faster than sound. Because we are 3.5 miles away, what you see gets here faster than what you hear. Does this make sense?"
    Billy: "Yeah dad, but why couldn't we just get better tickets?"
    Dad: "You see Billy, that is how the Ten Club works. You should just be glad you got the tickets you did."
    Billy: "But didn't you say you've been in the Ten Club for 20 years and here we are 3.5 miles away?"
    Dad: "Yes Billy, it's best to not ask questions like that...besides, here comes another guest singer...you don't want to miss it!"
    MCA47: "Hey, do you mind if I take a look....I can't see shit!"
    Dad: "Sure, Billy...let that good looking drunk guy take a look through your telescope."
    MCA47: *Looks through telescope* "Ah, fuck, here comes Cornell again..."
    Dad: "You were here last night I take it?"
    MCA47: "Yeah, last night I could see them without a telescope, but I couldn't hear shit. Tonight, I can hear them, but I can't see shit."
    Dad: "You see, good looking drunk fellow...it's almost impossible to see anything with the naked eye 3.5 miles away..."
    MCA47: "Fuck it, I'm gonna get another beer..."
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  • Indifference71
    Indifference71 Chicago Posts: 14,906
    edited April 2015
    mca47 said:

    PJ20.
    I know a lot of people will grumble about this, but for me it was a HUGE disappointment. I had a blast hanging out and tailgating with everyone but the shows were pretty "meh".
    For a show ABOUT Pearl Jam, I was bummed when practically every song had a "guest" musician.
    Probably didn't help that my seats sucked too. First night under the pavilion three people from the end...the sound was horrible! It was just loud noise.
    Second night (Speedy can attest to this) I was literally 3.5 miles away. I could have easily just stayed in the parking lot and drank far cheaper beer.
    That said, I still had fun, but the shows themselves were highly disappointing.

    I could see that if you had bad seats....I've been in the lawn at Alpine plenty of times and it's pretty rough. I was lucky enough to have decent seats in the pavilion both nights. Definitely could have done without the TOTD stuff both nights......1 night was cool, but both nights seemed a bit much. I also didn't mess around with any of the side stage stuff or trying to see the museum thing since I knew it would be crazy....just tailgated a good 6-7 hours each day and got in there in time to see The Strokes and then PJ. Overall it was an awesome weekend....can't believe that's 3.5 years ago.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    Jason P said:

    St Paul 2014

    It wasn't a bad show, but I drove 12 hours to get there and it ended up being the show sandwiched between the No Code and Yield shows.

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    Yeah, drove from Winnipeg. Sat in the hotel reading the setlist running thread, freaking out about No code. Then on the way home, reading about Yield. But then i realized I should judge the st paul show on its own merit, not against others. I remembered getting chills during imagine, and again during footsteps. It was an incredible show.
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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,991

    mca47 said:

    PJ20.
    I know a lot of people will grumble about this, but for me it was a HUGE disappointment. I had a blast hanging out and tailgating with everyone but the shows were pretty "meh".
    For a show ABOUT Pearl Jam, I was bummed when practically every song had a "guest" musician.
    Probably didn't help that my seats sucked too. First night under the pavilion three people from the end...the sound was horrible! It was just loud noise.
    Second night (Speedy can attest to this) I was literally 3.5 miles away. I could have easily just stayed in the parking lot and drank far cheaper beer.
    That said, I still had fun, but the shows themselves were highly disappointing.

    Weird how different experiences can be. I had one of the best weekends of my life! Loved the guest artists during the PJ set and thought the TOTD stuff was perfect for the setting. Not to mention all the other acts all weekend. Damn that shit was fun. I guess it helps that I love QOTSA, Glen Hansard, Liam Finn, Mudhoney, X, and Chris Cornell.

    Yeah same here. First off, it was even close to "every song" having a guest musician. And I thought the ones that did were pretty cool. We've seen PJ play covers with other artists a thousand times, but never really their own songs. I thought Josh Homme and Liam Finn were particularly great on In The Moonlight and Habit. The Strokes guy wasn't very good but he didn't hurt things either. I thought the weekend was as great as great could be. My only nitpick is the idiotic setlist descision to play Arms Aloft second on the first night. What the fuck was that? After such an EPIC Release, they needed to play a Pearl Jam song that rocks there (Last Exit, Hail Hail, Animal, ANYTIHNG BUT A COVER).That was so strange. But again, minor nitpick. Otherwise, I thought the setlists, the guest appearances, QOTSA, and Temple of the Dog were all awesome.
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  • Abe Froman
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    mca47 said:

    PJ20.
    I know a lot of people will grumble about this, but for me it was a HUGE disappointment. I had a blast hanging out and tailgating with everyone but the shows were pretty "meh".
    For a show ABOUT Pearl Jam, I was bummed when practically every song had a "guest" musician.
    Probably didn't help that my seats sucked too. First night under the pavilion three people from the end...the sound was horrible! It was just loud noise.
    Second night (Speedy can attest to this) I was literally 3.5 miles away. I could have easily just stayed in the parking lot and drank far cheaper beer.
    That said, I still had fun, but the shows themselves were highly disappointing.

    Weird how different experiences can be. I had one of the best weekends of my life! Loved the guest artists during the PJ set and thought the TOTD stuff was perfect for the setting. Not to mention all the other acts all weekend. Damn that shit was fun. I guess it helps that I love QOTSA, Glen Hansard, Liam Finn, Mudhoney, X, and Chris Cornell.

    Yeah same here. First off, it was even close to "every song" having a guest musician. And I thought the ones that did were pretty cool. We've seen PJ play covers with other artists a thousand times, but never really their own songs. I thought Josh Homme and Liam Finn were particularly great on In The Moonlight and Habit. The Strokes guy wasn't very good but he didn't hurt things either. I thought the weekend was as great as great could be. My only nitpick is the idiotic setlist descision to play Arms Aloft second on the first night. What the fuck was that? After such an EPIC Release, they needed to play a Pearl Jam song that rocks there (Last Exit, Hail Hail, Animal, ANYTIHNG BUT A COVER).That was so strange. But again, minor nitpick. Otherwise, I thought the setlists, the guest appearances, QOTSA, and Temple of the Dog were all awesome.
    Agreed. Arms Aloft was a very strange choice. And my only other very small nitpick was the omission of Crown of Thorns. But yeah like you said other than those two choices it was a fucking awesome experience.
  • lolobugg
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    mca47 said:

    PJ20.
    I know a lot of people will grumble about this, but for me it was a HUGE disappointment. I had a blast hanging out and tailgating with everyone but the shows were pretty "meh".
    For a show ABOUT Pearl Jam, I was bummed when practically every song had a "guest" musician.
    Probably didn't help that my seats sucked too. First night under the pavilion three people from the end...the sound was horrible! It was just loud noise.
    Second night (Speedy can attest to this) I was literally 3.5 miles away. I could have easily just stayed in the parking lot and drank far cheaper beer.
    That said, I still had fun, but the shows themselves were highly disappointing.

    Weird how different experiences can be. I had one of the best weekends of my life! Loved the guest artists during the PJ set and thought the TOTD stuff was perfect for the setting. Not to mention all the other acts all weekend. Damn that shit was fun. I guess it helps that I love QOTSA, Glen Hansard, Liam Finn, Mudhoney, X, and Chris Cornell.

    Yeah same here. First off, it was even close to "every song" having a guest musician. And I thought the ones that did were pretty cool. We've seen PJ play covers with other artists a thousand times, but never really their own songs. I thought Josh Homme and Liam Finn were particularly great on In The Moonlight and Habit. The Strokes guy wasn't very good but he didn't hurt things either. I thought the weekend was as great as great could be. My only nitpick is the idiotic setlist descision to play Arms Aloft second on the first night. What the fuck was that? After such an EPIC Release, they needed to play a Pearl Jam song that rocks there (Last Exit, Hail Hail, Animal, ANYTIHNG BUT A COVER).That was so strange. But again, minor nitpick. Otherwise, I thought the setlists, the guest appearances, QOTSA, and Temple of the Dog were all awesome.
    Agreed. Arms Aloft was a very strange choice. And my only other very small nitpick was the omission of Crown of Thorns. But yeah like you said other than those two choices it was a fucking awesome experience.
    I would have like to seen Jack Irons play on "Who You Are" or "In My Tree" but great weekend overall.

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  • 2-feign-reluctance
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    Always felt the first night were for all us weirdos who like rare songs, second night for the 'regular' people! Hahahaha!!
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  • Red Mosqito
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    I travelled from Australia to Missoula for the 2012 show and while the experience of seeing PJ in a small venue was great, the setlist wasn't the best for me personally. I only got one song out of 29 I had heard before and it was only my 12th show.

    Wow, now that's some dedication right there! My wife thought I was crazy for going to Missoula just to see the band and I only live in California! I could easily see how you would be disappointed with the Missoula show coming all the way from down under! With that being said, I absolutely loved the Missoula show.

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  • mca47
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    lolobugg said:

    mca47 said:

    PJ20.
    I know a lot of people will grumble about this, but for me it was a HUGE disappointment. I had a blast hanging out and tailgating with everyone but the shows were pretty "meh".
    For a show ABOUT Pearl Jam, I was bummed when practically every song had a "guest" musician.
    Probably didn't help that my seats sucked too. First night under the pavilion three people from the end...the sound was horrible! It was just loud noise.
    Second night (Speedy can attest to this) I was literally 3.5 miles away. I could have easily just stayed in the parking lot and drank far cheaper beer.
    That said, I still had fun, but the shows themselves were highly disappointing.

    Weird how different experiences can be. I had one of the best weekends of my life! Loved the guest artists during the PJ set and thought the TOTD stuff was perfect for the setting. Not to mention all the other acts all weekend. Damn that shit was fun. I guess it helps that I love QOTSA, Glen Hansard, Liam Finn, Mudhoney, X, and Chris Cornell.

    Yeah same here. First off, it was even close to "every song" having a guest musician. And I thought the ones that did were pretty cool. We've seen PJ play covers with other artists a thousand times, but never really their own songs. I thought Josh Homme and Liam Finn were particularly great on In The Moonlight and Habit. The Strokes guy wasn't very good but he didn't hurt things either. I thought the weekend was as great as great could be. My only nitpick is the idiotic setlist descision to play Arms Aloft second on the first night. What the fuck was that? After such an EPIC Release, they needed to play a Pearl Jam song that rocks there (Last Exit, Hail Hail, Animal, ANYTIHNG BUT A COVER).That was so strange. But again, minor nitpick. Otherwise, I thought the setlists, the guest appearances, QOTSA, and Temple of the Dog were all awesome.
    Agreed. Arms Aloft was a very strange choice. And my only other very small nitpick was the omission of Crown of Thorns. But yeah like you said other than those two choices it was a fucking awesome experience.
    I would have like to seen Jack Irons play on "Who You Are" or "In My Tree" but great weekend overall.
    I still had a blast, just wasn't a fan of all the guest singers, my shitty seats, the horrible sound in the pav the first night.
    PJ20, as a concert is far down on my list of the 12-13 or whatever it is PJ shows I've been to.
    Hell, I thought the Alpine '03 show was a lot better. PJ20 probably beats out Alpine '00 though...that was just too fn cold! ha
  • Lost In Ohio
    Lost In Ohio Posts: 7,244

    mca47 said:

    PJ20.
    I know a lot of people will grumble about this, but for me it was a HUGE disappointment. I had a blast hanging out and tailgating with everyone but the shows were pretty "meh".
    For a show ABOUT Pearl Jam, I was bummed when practically every song had a "guest" musician.
    Probably didn't help that my seats sucked too. First night under the pavilion three people from the end...the sound was horrible! It was just loud noise.
    Second night (Speedy can attest to this) I was literally 3.5 miles away. I could have easily just stayed in the parking lot and drank far cheaper beer.
    That said, I still had fun, but the shows themselves were highly disappointing.

    Weird how different experiences can be. I had one of the best weekends of my life! Loved the guest artists during the PJ set and thought the TOTD stuff was perfect for the setting. Not to mention all the other acts all weekend. Damn that shit was fun. I guess it helps that I love QOTSA, Glen Hansard, Liam Finn, Mudhoney, X, and Chris Cornell.

    Yeah same here. First off, it was even close to "every song" having a guest musician. And I thought the ones that did were pretty cool. We've seen PJ play covers with other artists a thousand times, but never really their own songs. I thought Josh Homme and Liam Finn were particularly great on In The Moonlight and Habit. The Strokes guy wasn't very good but he didn't hurt things either. I thought the weekend was as great as great could be. My only nitpick is the idiotic setlist descision to play Arms Aloft second on the first night. What the fuck was that? After such an EPIC Release, they needed to play a Pearl Jam song that rocks there (Last Exit, Hail Hail, Animal, ANYTIHNG BUT A COVER).That was so strange. But again, minor nitpick. Otherwise, I thought the setlists, the guest appearances, QOTSA, and Temple of the Dog were all awesome.
    Agreed. Arms Aloft was a very strange choice. And my only other very small nitpick was the omission of Crown of Thorns. But yeah like you said other than those two choices it was a fucking awesome experience.

    Yet, they saved Chloe/Crown (first time ever in that order, right? Or at least first in a while) for a few nights later in Toronto.

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