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  • Indifference71
    Indifference71 Chicago Posts: 14,910
    The problem is that you show zero respect for anyone who has a different opinion than yours so it's pretty fucking pointless to even get into anything with you.
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388

    The problem is that you show zero respect for anyone who has a different opinion than yours so it's pretty fucking pointless to even get into anything with you.

    Do you have a differing opinion? If you do let's hear it. Always more than happy to discuss and more than happy to admit when I'm wrong.

    What I write is very strongly written and confrontational and yes sure I sound like I'm an ass at times but we waffle in our greatness and sometimes takes some strong points and uncomfortable points to get us out of our fantasy world.
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,302
    The brothers have also been potentially tied to cutting the necks of three of their friends for dealing weed ... then is it OK to want to drop this guy in a volcano pit if he is convicted with a clear conscious?
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    hedonist said:

    callen said:

    Respect for what?

    Not for what, for whom.

    Respect for the citizens of the city, and for those who lost loved ones or had their lives changed forever, by the means and intent of a couple of sick, selfish men.
    So your saying I'm disrespecting the family of loved ones by discussing this case while it's on trial?

    So we should have 2 days of silence and prayer? When can we again discuss?
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    On a PJ message board?
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  • Indifference71
    Indifference71 Chicago Posts: 14,910
    callen said:

    The problem is that you show zero respect for anyone who has a different opinion than yours so it's pretty fucking pointless to even get into anything with you.

    Do you have a differing opinion? If you do let's hear it. Always more than happy to discuss and more than happy to admit when I'm wrong.

    What I write is very strongly written and confrontational and yes sure I sound like I'm an ass at times but we waffle in our greatness and sometimes takes some strong points and uncomfortable points to get us out of our fantasy world.
    I really don't have a strong opinion either way about this particular issue. I only chimed in here because it gets really old to see you talking down to people and unable to respect the fact that people may think differently than you. It's one thing to debate a topic/issue, but it's another thing to resort to name-calling and telling people that their thoughts are unhealthy.
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    callen said:

    Because we need. Confrontation. We need to break out of this violence cycle. We need to look at ourselves versus the same old "they are the evil ones and we are so fucking grand."

    And some will never be able to wrap their heads around that and the fucking people in power Love it.

    Here's a suggestion. Worry more about the "me" and "I" with these sweeping needs applied. Pretty sure I know what's best for me and what common sense dictates.

    Sidenote - it's a bit strange how the railing against so-called confrontation is spoken by those who help to create it.

    Double standard.
    callen said:

    hedonist said:

    callen said:

    Respect for what?

    Not for what, for whom.

    Respect for the citizens of the city, and for those who lost loved ones or had their lives changed forever, by the means and intent of a couple of sick, selfish men.
    So your saying I'm disrespecting the family of loved ones by discussing this case while it's on trial?

    So we should have 2 days of silence and prayer? When can we again discuss?
    Not even close, callen. This is a leap. An unfair one at that.

    And to Indifference - last sentence, absolutely.
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    One thing to be confrontational on points versus ones personality. We sometimes like to gang up on folks.
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  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    Cal,we don't always agree,but you are always consistent in your stance.I respect that.
  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    Can't say Callen isn't honest. I respect someone who speaks what's on his mind wether being PC or not. I also agree a lot on callens points.
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,598
    We bet the under and we bet wrong.

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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Damn. Guessing my bet on gambo's son saying hello to the world is more on point.

    Gotta wonder what (more) is being considered.
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,598
    Never thought this would reach a second day. Very curious to learn what these two questions are.

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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    Okay so if the bomber never had the older brother, do you think he would of still done something like this?
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,598
    callen said:

    Okay so if the bomber never had the older brother, do you think he would of still done something like this?

    We can't say for sure but it doesn't matter. "My brother made me do it" is a pretty weak defense, especially when you consider how long he stood by himself behind the Richard family with that bomb. There are plenty of people in this world who have a problem child for an older sibling. Not many of them do what Dzhokar did.

    He committed this crime, knowingly and willfully.

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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,598
    This is where he chose to stop. These are the people that he targeted. His brother is two blocks away. When it came time to set that bomb off, Dzhokar Tsarnaev was on his own.

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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    JimmyV said:

    callen said:

    Okay so if the bomber never had the older brother, do you think he would of still done something like this?

    We can't say for sure but it doesn't matter. "My brother made me do it" is a pretty weak defense, especially when you consider how long he stood by himself behind the Richard family with that bomb. There are plenty of people in this world who have a problem child for an older sibling. Not many of them do what Dzhokar did.

    He committed this crime, knowingly and willfully.

    And after seeing that photo / screen-shot, with a smile on his face.
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    JimmyV said:

    callen said:

    Okay so if the bomber never had the older brother, do you think he would of still done something like this?

    We can't say for sure but it doesn't matter. "My brother made me do it" is a pretty weak defense, especially when you consider how long he stood by himself behind the Richard family with that bomb. There are plenty of people in this world who have a problem child for an older sibling. Not many of them do what Dzhokar did.

    He committed this crime, knowingly and willfully.

    No doubt.

    Question posed in relation to what sentence and jury timing.

    So life or death?
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,598
    callen said:

    JimmyV said:

    callen said:

    Okay so if the bomber never had the older brother, do you think he would of still done something like this?

    We can't say for sure but it doesn't matter. "My brother made me do it" is a pretty weak defense, especially when you consider how long he stood by himself behind the Richard family with that bomb. There are plenty of people in this world who have a problem child for an older sibling. Not many of them do what Dzhokar did.

    He committed this crime, knowingly and willfully.

    No doubt.

    Question posed in relation to what sentence and jury timing.

    So life or death?
    I don't know. I am pro-death penalty and he qualifies, both in heinousness of his crime and guilt beyond any doubt. But...I do fear he will become a martyr if executed. Maybe a tiny cell and no hope of parole is a better punishment for him. I don't know and I feel for those who have to make that decision.
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  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    Again, true muslims will see this clown as no martyr. If there is a god, this fuckface will be punished no doubt. There's no martyr for killing innocent people. That's just crazy