Trouble with 2005 Bootlegs

hd1072 · April 2013

Hi,

I'd really like to get into the '05 shows - those setlists just look too good. Trouble is, I can't download them from gremmie's basement without there being 2 seconds of silence at the end of each track, and I can't download them form pearljambootlegs.org without each track skipping. Does anyone know where I can download these shows as MP3's and have them play properly? I know the shows are out there and I don't want to be demanding - I'd just like to hear them the way they're supposed to be heard.

Thanks so much!

Fastrichie · April 2013

weren't all the 2005 shows MP3?

papa_pearls_jam.pj20 · April 2013

I had the same problem with the gaps (silence) after each track. So, I edited the tracks by removing the silent parts. Kind of a pain in the ass, but I think it was worth it.

Here's the program I downloaded and it's free ---> http://audacity.sourceforge.net/

TribeintoBreath · April 2013

papa_pearls_jam.pj20 wrote:

I had the same problem with the gaps (silence) after each track. So, I edited the tracks by removing the silent parts. Kind of a pain in the ass, but I think it was worth it.

Here's the program I downloaded and it's free ---> http://audacity.sourceforge.net/

Just wanted to say..nice job for helping another jammer out :-)

Jammalambo · April 2013

hd1072 wrote:

Hi,

I'd really like to get into the '05 shows - those setlists just look too good. Trouble is, I can't download them from gremmie's basement without there being 2 seconds of silence at the end of each track, and I can't download them form pearljambootlegs.org without each track skipping. Does anyone know where I can download these shows as MP3's and have them play properly? I know the shows are out there and I don't want to be demanding - I'd just like to hear them the way they're supposed to be heard.

Thanks so much!

2005 Bootlegs are only available in mp3 192 kbps low quality, unfortunately.. even if you have the original versions downloaded from Basecamp, you will have annoying gaps between tracks if you burn them as they are.. But there's a not so difficult solution to create audio cd's from mp3 files with absolutely no audible gaps between songs.. You need: Foobar 2000 and EAC (other programs can be used, but these are the best to me)..
1 - merge all the mp3's in one big wav file with foobar 200 (use the convert function to do that)
2 - open this wav file with the wav editor of EAC, and remove all the silence between tracks (silence is that straight line that you will notice between the end and start of every track, be sure to remove it COMPLETELY), at the same time you must put the markers (cue points) in the same points where you remove the silence
3 - now you can burn the disc using the cue file you have previously created, or split the wav file using the cue file and then burn all the tracks normally
Result guaranteed, 100% no fucking gaps no more

on a side note, I hate mp3's, the 2005 boots and many EV solo concert are practically the only ones I have (for obvious reasons).. Flac's sound better and you just have to convert them to wav to create a perfect audio Cd
A boxset for the 2005 boots in Cd quality would be super great (actually, a 2007 one, too, while we're waiting for the 2011 and 2012 boxsets)

Empty Glass · April 2013

not sure if you are using iTunes or not. If so, highlight the album, right click, options, somewhere in there you can select "play as a gapless album". My 2005 play right thru.

Above directions may not be exact, I'm going off of memory.

Other players should have similar options

Jammalambo · April 2013

Empty Glass wrote:

not sure if you are using iTunes or not. If so, highlight the album, right click, options, somewhere in there you can select "play as a gapless album". My 2005 play right thru.

Above directions may not be exact, I'm going off of memory.

Other players should have similar options

This can't work well, because silence has to be removed manually.. the option you say here is the same when you tell your burner to not add a two seconds gap between tracks: an audible gap, even if very short, will always remain..

demetrios · April 2013

Fastrichie wrote:

weren't all the 2005 shows MP3?

Yep! It was only available via MP3 from Basecamp. The following year in '06, they released that tour in MP3 & Flac formats.

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Someday they will reissue the '05 tour in our it's all it's glory! Flac, CD, 24 Bit Flac-HD & 24 Bit Alac-HD.

Someday ...

Empty Glass · April 2013

Jammalambo wrote:

Empty Glass wrote:

not sure if you are using iTunes or not. If so, highlight the album, right click, options, somewhere in there you can select "play as a gapless album". My 2005 play right thru.

Above directions may not be exact, I'm going off of memory.

Other players should have similar options

This can't work well, because silence has to be removed manually.. the option you say here is the same when you tell your burner to not add a two seconds gap between tracks: an audible gap, even if very short, will always remain..

Been so long since these were DL'd and loaded on iTunes (obviously 2005

) just had a listen and there isn't a full two second gap, but there is a quick gap on a song change. Kind of like a little skip, best way I can explain it.

demetrios · April 2013

Do you guy's remember the old message pit? There was a rumor they would release I believe a compilation '05 CD. Or was it a show or two on CD. The only one that did get released on CD was Gorge '05.

I hope Nugs.net are able to take the cases of audio goodies from Pearl Jam & release the '05 tour to the heavens ...

grahammur · May 2013

Hi graham here from dublin,ireland.i was wondering could anybody post a link of the 2005(192kbps) tour converted without the annoying gaps between songs?.i want to burn these shows to cd(without the annoying gaps) and get the artwork done as well.I wish they could be released in flac/or cd quality.I could sent blank dvds to burn the tour to anyone who could help me out?thanks.
regards,
graham.

jumbojet · May 2013

I wish they release the entire bootleg catalogue again in this site.

Zod · May 2013

The MP3 issue is an old one. If I remember correctly the "tag" data (or some kind of data) is stored at the end of the track. Even if you burn the songs using DAO (Disc at Once?) which removes the 2 seconds gaps, you still get that slight ticking sound between mp3 tracks, even when they are burned right after each other on the disc.

It's one of the reasons audiophiles prefer to have them in FLAC. FLAC (or even SHN back in the day) doesn't replicate this problem. The downside is that mp3 was the only format the 2005 tour was available in (except for the gorge show).

You can manually edit out that bit of silence at the end of each track but it's a bit of pain :(

Dead Man Walking · March 2015

Revisiting an old thread...

Does anyone have a link to the re-worked 2005 bootlegs with the gaps removed? This is a task I need to tackle very soon if no one has an updated (gap-less) set of shows available for download.

Please get at me if you know where I can find these shows "sans gaps."

Thanks a lot.
-DMW

darthvedder · March 2015

10 year anniversary of these shows is time for the band to finally do these shows right and release them on CD or FLAC.

demetrios · March 2015

darthvedder said:
10 year anniversary of these shows is time for the band to finally do these shows right and release them on CD or FLAC.

Yes please! And in 24Bit Flac-HD.

Dead Man Walking said:
Revisiting an old thread...

Does anyone have a link to the re-worked 2005 bootlegs with the gaps removed? This is a task I need to tackle very soon if no one has an updated (gap-less) set of shows available for download.

Please get at me if you know where I can find these shows "sans gaps."

Thanks a lot.
-DMW

Re-worked 2005 Official Pearl Jam MP3 bootlegs? I haven't seen those before.
Would like to check it out.

Ledbetterman10 · March 2015

Get them all here: http://www.pearljambootlegarchive.com/2005.html

Dead Man Walking · March 2015

Ledbetterman10 said:
Get them all here: http://www.pearljambootlegarchive.com/2005.html

Are these gap-less?

Ledbetterman10 · March 2015

Dead Man Walking said:

Ledbetterman10 said:
Get them all here: http://www.pearljambootlegarchive.com/2005.html
Are these gap-less?

they're the original mp3s from 2005. 192kbps, some songs merged as one track.

mcgruff10 · March 2015

darthvedder said:
10 year anniversary of these shows is time for the band to finally do these shows right and release them on CD or FLAC.

100% agree!!!

Dead Man Walking · March 2015

Ledbetterman10 said:

Dead Man Walking said:

Ledbetterman10 said:
Get them all here: http://www.pearljambootlegarchive.com/2005.html
Are these gap-less?
they're the original mp3s from 2005. 192kbps, some songs merged as one track.

Thanks, but when you rip these (the original files) to CD there's a dead air space between tracks. If I don't find a place to download the re-deited seamless versions, I'll have to do it myself...and I know that's going to take a looooong time.

Jammalambo · March 2015

Dead Man Walking said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Dead Man Walking said:

Ledbetterman10 said:
Get them all here: http://www.pearljambootlegarchive.com/2005.html
Are these gap-less?
they're the original mp3s from 2005. 192kbps, some songs merged as one track.
Thanks, but when you rip these (the original files) to CD there's a dead air space between tracks. If I don't find a place to download the re-deited seamless versions, I'll have to do it myself...and I know that's going to take a looooong time.

No one ever posted or made available for download a thing like that (the official mp3's from 2005 tour, converted in wav to eliminate the gaps).. you will not find something like this anywhere, I'm sorry.. but in this thread I described a while ago how to do it for yourself (it's the only working solution that I know of).. it takes more time than just burn the files as they are (like Flac files), but it's the only way to avoid the gap..

MT132914 · March 2015

Jammalambo said:

Dead Man Walking said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Dead Man Walking said:

Ledbetterman10 said:
Get them all here: http://www.pearljambootlegarchive.com/2005.html
Are these gap-less?
they're the original mp3s from 2005. 192kbps, some songs merged as one track.
Thanks, but when you rip these (the original files) to CD there's a dead air space between tracks. If I don't find a place to download the re-deited seamless versions, I'll have to do it myself...and I know that's going to take a looooong time.
No one ever posted or made available for download a thing like that (the official mp3's from 2005 tour, converted in wav to eliminate the gaps).. you will not find something like this anywhere, I'm sorry.. but in this thread I described a while ago how to do it for yourself (it's the only working solution that I know of).. it takes more time than just burn the files as they are (like Flac files), but it's the only way to avoid the gap..

work has started on this little project, 1 down, 32 to go

CopperTom · March 2015

Guys, a 25 frame crossfade works well and is a simple solution. You should try it before ou put in too much time.

Mike D88 · March 2015

I still don't know what the heck anyone in this thread is talking about. Is there actually silence at the end of each track, or is MP3 playback gapping being conflated as the issue here? One is an easy fix (Use a player or device with gapless playback), the other is not (Edit each track).

RS151862 · March 2015

I downloaded the North American leg from Ledbetterman10's site before he took them down. With the exception of Kitchener, all the show were gapless in 192kbps. I haven't been able to find a gapless version of Kitchener on anyone's site or torrent.

Big Bank Hank · March 2015

RS151862 said:
I downloaded the North American leg from Ledbetterman10's site before he took them down. With the exception of Kitchener, all the show were gapless in 192kbps. I haven't been able to find a gapless version of Kitchener on anyone's site or torrent.

yeah I was hoping to find Quebec City and Halifax and the 2 St John's shows gapless, I had them uploaded to youtube, but then I made the mistake of monetizing my account and half my Pearl Jam shit became unplayable, so I want to re-upload the shows to my new youtube account, so if anyone has the last 4 shows of the 2005 Canadian Tour gapless I would be very grateful

Jammalambo · March 2015

Not true, the original mp3's of the 2005 tour, if converted to .wav and burned to CD as they are, will have gaps between tracks, it's guaranteed.. try it and see it for yourself.

RS151862 · March 2015

Jammalambo said:
Not true, the original mp3's of the 2005 tour, if converted to .wav and burned to CD as they are, will have gaps between tracks, it's guaranteed.. try it and see it for yourself.

I havent burned them to a CD, but when you play them through iTunes or from an iPhone theres no gaps.

Ledbetterman10 · March 2015

RS151862 said:
I downloaded the North American leg from Ledbetterman10's site before he took them down. With the exception of Kitchener, all the show were gapless in 192kbps. I haven't been able to find a gapless version of Kitchener on anyone's site or torrent.

I don't they'll burn to a disc gapless though. They're fine on your computer (and presumably, an iPhone or iPod), but Philly 2005 (the only 2005 show I have on disc cause I was there) has gaps at the end of the songs.

Those links that I was hosting on the site were actually borrowed from here (http://rus-pearljam.blogspot.com/p/free-bootlegs.html) so you can download the 2005 shows from there and give them the old college try to see if they'll burn gapless. I'm not sure if they will though. I assume they're the exact same MP3s that I linked to earlier in the thread (http://www.pearljambootlegarchive.com/2005.html) but it's worth a try I guess.

papa_pearls_jam.pj20 · March 2015

In iTunes, there's also the ability to edit each track length to end (or start) at a time you choose in the file. Too much work for me these days, though.

Trouble with 2005 Bootlegs

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