What the hell happened in Wisconsin?

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  • brianlux said:

    Who doesn't love these stories! They are truly wonderful and inspiring. But I have to say this too (I'm sorry, I can't help it, but this question does come to mind) I also sometimes get the feeling that these stories are used to sugar coat things. I really want to be wrong about that. And really, isn't the truth somewhere between all evil gestapo and warm and fuzzy? And toward which end of this spectrum are we moving?

    VERY well said Brian, a balanced view of how things really are and not dismissing what we don't want to hear.
  • rr165892rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    BSL,I'd love it if you shared a little about yourself as I think it may help shed some light on why you take the stances you take
    .Im not trying to pry or am talking about personal info.But I'm assuming your young,Unmarried,no kids,maybe still live in moms basement?Bounce between jobs?Whats your situation.
    I ask because I think life experience shapes our views. Yours seem very "non trusting" of authorities,angry at others and Basically are oblivious to what others are saying.I mean do you really think those of us who understand a shooting while someone is trying to take a cops weapon is justifiable makes us pro death? Pro racial overtones?Pro murder? Of course not.We care enough to debate it on a fucking rock bands fan site.Thats more engaged then most the population.

    You do realize that although not everyone agrees on every issue there is a great amount of mutual respect amongst the posters on this thread.I can be disagreeing with Gambs on this issues and goofing around with him about breast milk(lol) on another.Same with Brian.No one is "jumping" on anyone.Just a beautiful free flow of thoughts and ideas.Yours being as respected as others and equally as valuable to the conversation.But don't think for a minute that supporting a certain pro law enforcement stance means we won't call a spade a spade if it came to wrong doing on the officers behalf.You should try looking at the criminals actions in the same light and maybe you will understand where we are coming from.Life does not suck.Living in our democracy does not suck.See the big picture.
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,656

    You live a life not in reality of real issues and problems we face, but the denial of pretending the real world isn't there. That our fantasy worlds are real

    hysterical. you have zero idea about any of us, nor what any of our lives are about or what we've gone through. this statment alone tells a LOT.

    "Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk"
    -EV  8/14/93




  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,656
    bsl, one thing I've learned in this forum (and I've learned a LOT) is that your current style of discussion won't get you very far. you can act as if you are banging your head against the wall all you like, but if you continually refuse to read what others are saying and just remain in your clouded view of anger that everyone else is an idiot and that you are the only enlightened one, you won't have much success here.

    I've been there. So has 30. And I learned from it. And so has he.
    "Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk"
    -EV  8/14/93




  • Last-12-ExitLast-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    There is a common theme in most of these police shootings. The criminal either did one of 2 things: 1) reach for the cops gun or 2) assaulted the police officer.

    Shouldn't that be the focus?
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    rr165892 said:

    BSL,I'd love it if you shared a little about yourself as I think it may help shed some light on why you take the stances you take
    .Im not trying to pry or am talking about personal info.But I'm assuming your young,Unmarried,no kids,maybe still live in moms basement?Bounce between jobs?Whats your situation.
    I ask because I think life experience shapes our views. Yours seem very "non trusting" of authorities,angry at others and Basically are oblivious to what others are saying.I mean do you really think those of us who understand a shooting while someone is trying to take a cops weapon is justifiable makes us pro death? Pro racial overtones?Pro murder? Of course not.We care enough to debate it on a fucking rock bands fan site.Thats more engaged then most the population.

    You do realize that although not everyone agrees on every issue there is a great amount of mutual respect amongst the posters on this thread.I can be disagreeing with Gambs on this issues and goofing around with him about breast milk(lol) on another.Same with Brian.No one is "jumping" on anyone.Just a beautiful free flow of thoughts and ideas.Yours being as respected as others and equally as valuable to the conversation.But don't think for a minute that supporting a certain pro law enforcement stance means we won't call a spade a spade if it came to wrong doing on the officers behalf.You should try looking at the criminals actions in the same light and maybe you will understand where we are coming from.Life does not suck.Living in our democracy does not suck.See the big picture.

    Whoa...wait a minute...who's goofing around? I'm dead serious brah!
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • For all of you who think I'm all gloom and doom, AGAIN, you're welcome to reread the entire thread. Tell me how many times I have said that all cops aren't bad. But I'll say it one more time. You only read what you want to read, you want to see me as the devil and that's all you see. You live a life not in reality of real issues and problems we face, but the denial of pretending the real world isn't there. That our fantasy worlds are real. Reading only warm and fuzzy police stories keep you in your cocoon, how sweet. Good luck all with that mind frame. You are a delusional group, aside from Brian and Rgambs and anyone else seeing this problem for what it is.

    And I fully support Brian's obsession statement. The only reason you guys took it so poorly, is because there is an air of truth in it, and it comes from a friend. So what do you do? Jump on the poor guy. I guess it tells me that you just can't bear the heart of the problem (which is apparent throughout the entire thread). That killing a man, woman, child, is an acceptable and justified punishment by cops. That racism and the police isn't a major problem. You all back it up without fully coming out and admitting it. And Brian just happened to hit the nail on the head causing chaos.

    I am done here, it's not a fair and open minded debating place. Good luck everyone.

    Peace.
    LOL.

    Man... I wish we could all be awesome like you.

    * And you're done here? Really? Yah right. If you are, does this mean you'll go have your tantrums in another thread about the police?
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • rr165892rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    rgambs said:

    Whoa...wait a minute...who's goofing around? I'm dead serious brah!
    Brah......love it!!!
    You got built in accessibility.Im stuck soliciting my product from pregnant immigrant women.Not fair at all.I could end up with a tainted batch.
  • rr165892rr165892 Posts: 5,697

    There is a common theme in most of these police shootings. The criminal either did one of 2 things: 1) reach for the cops gun or 2) assaulted the police officer.

    Shouldn't that be the focus?

    Yes,yes,yes and fucking A yes
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