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About 10C NO "Active by" rule for South America concerts
fcbittenca
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Ok. About the tour in South America. The plan to have the passwords on the Events page with no 10C membership deadline and why it is not a good idea. (This is for Brazil alone). Assuming all the rules are already set.
1 - In my country we have a stupid law to give 50% discount to everyone with a Student ID. Guess what happens? Most everyone in the country has a FAKE Student ID. Every promoter in Brazil double their prices knowing most people will have fake documents. (Some of us don't. So we pay full price, or should I say, double price)
2 - In 2011 the 10C had an AMAZING 50% discount Pre Sale to active members until one day before the announcement. The wrong decision was the password system. Most of Brazilians have a very UNIQUE concept of FAIR, for lack of a better expression.
3 - Scalpers in Brazil will go the extra mile for a buck. They will make fake memberships as much as they can to buy all 4 tickets. SPECIALLY if again, 10C give us a 50% discount. Think of this. This is a half price ticket that don't require fake documentation.
Now the beauty about this type of people. THEY DON'T CARE IF THEY LOOSE THEIR MEMBERSHIP. THEY DON'T GIVE A DAMN. The threat 10C imposes only applies to us, loyal 10C members that have been paying our membership for a while.
With that said I move for 10C to consider having a deadline of before the first announcement as an active member in order to be a part of the Pre Sale. This is the norm we came to expect from everything in the club lately. This is a "make it fair for people here". Make sure the loyal fan will score a ticket and not be at risk of some scalper invasion.
Any internet programmer can easily modify an unique event page to ready "membership since" field, use a simple YES or NO formula and only allow access to the password page to those that are eligible.
I hope people understand that I have 10C members and all Pearl Jam fans interest as the only reason why I am saying this. I know 10C has all the good heart in the planet and all the faith on people. BUT... being a brazilian myself I say. We don't deserve that credit.
If we don't act now, PJ next visit to South America announcement will read something like "Last time the password on the events page was a problem due .... "
1 - In my country we have a stupid law to give 50% discount to everyone with a Student ID. Guess what happens? Most everyone in the country has a FAKE Student ID. Every promoter in Brazil double their prices knowing most people will have fake documents. (Some of us don't. So we pay full price, or should I say, double price)
2 - In 2011 the 10C had an AMAZING 50% discount Pre Sale to active members until one day before the announcement. The wrong decision was the password system. Most of Brazilians have a very UNIQUE concept of FAIR, for lack of a better expression.
3 - Scalpers in Brazil will go the extra mile for a buck. They will make fake memberships as much as they can to buy all 4 tickets. SPECIALLY if again, 10C give us a 50% discount. Think of this. This is a half price ticket that don't require fake documentation.
Now the beauty about this type of people. THEY DON'T CARE IF THEY LOOSE THEIR MEMBERSHIP. THEY DON'T GIVE A DAMN. The threat 10C imposes only applies to us, loyal 10C members that have been paying our membership for a while.
With that said I move for 10C to consider having a deadline of before the first announcement as an active member in order to be a part of the Pre Sale. This is the norm we came to expect from everything in the club lately. This is a "make it fair for people here". Make sure the loyal fan will score a ticket and not be at risk of some scalper invasion.
Any internet programmer can easily modify an unique event page to ready "membership since" field, use a simple YES or NO formula and only allow access to the password page to those that are eligible.
I hope people understand that I have 10C members and all Pearl Jam fans interest as the only reason why I am saying this. I know 10C has all the good heart in the planet and all the faith on people. BUT... being a brazilian myself I say. We don't deserve that credit.
If we don't act now, PJ next visit to South America announcement will read something like "Last time the password on the events page was a problem due .... "
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I'm not a programmer, but @fcbittenca I hope they see your concern and are able to do something about it.
I hate that the tickets are so expensive for you and that dishonest people make it worse.
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Also to try and reward the loyal 10C member like we have done in the past.
If they need someone to talk in portuguese with the ticket vendor and hold international conference calls I will be glad to help with that.
Sometimes I think on how simple it is but unfortunately we don't see any effort of 10C to make the right thing. Instead, we pass through this weird situation every time. It's time to 10C change its policy on the tickets for south america because this is not a advantage for us as they said.
For example, a lot of people are asking me on how to become a 10C member only to get this advantages. If 10C is trying to gather more and more members to raise money, I think that they are in the right way.
So please, Ten Club, we are claiming to you make the things right this time.
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2014: Leeds, Milton Keynes, Detroit
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2018: Barcelona, Wrigleyx2
Regarding the code, since is not 10C who is handeling the sale I think is hard to get an individual code, but posting the code for members only on the events page 1 hour before is better than sending via email a week before. It's an attempt to reduce the sharing.
Since the first SA tour in 2005 we've been loosing privileges. In 2011 we lost the early entry, in 2013 the fan club sale for lollapalooza was a fiasco with a horrible sales website, in 2014 for EV tour the code was everywhere and now no membership restriction...no need for a 10C number down here anymore...
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Ten Club Info (Tenclub)
Mar 15, 10:54 AM
Thank You Fabiano,
We appreciate your concern and will take it into consideration while planning the Brazil ticket sale announcement.
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