Binaural, Riot Act and Avocado, may not be perfect

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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    well, even as a big music fan, I think my general production awareness is pretty low. unless it's over produced. fake sounding. but I'm not picky about mp3's, or even if it's not a perfect sounding demo. I do much prefer headphones over earbuds, obviously, but I've never really understand the loudness war thing, which is probably why (besides the obvious physical aspect of it) I've never cared too much about vinyl. the "warm sound" escapes me. and i'm ok with that.
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  • Big Bank Hank
    Big Bank Hank Seattle, WA Posts: 8,639
    My one complaint with Avocado is that the guitars are almost non-existent in the mixing, so is the bass for that matter, but it's something that isn't obvious unless you are listening for it, so it is only a minor annoyance, unlike Backspacer, which half the album I routinely skip
  • EBowie
    EBowie Posts: 533
    This is a basic rundown:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    EBowie said:

    Believe me, I am no audiophile. But I do know that Avocado's production is way too loud. Throw on Riot Act and Avocado back-to-back, without adjusting your stereo, and you'll see what I mean.

    Speaking of the Chili Peppers, Californication might be the worst offender of loud production I've ever heard. It's a shame too because the songs are gorgeous.

    Ever listen to Vapor Trails by Rush? Holy loudness!!! So glad they gave it a remaster.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,642
    rummy said:

    goldrush said:

    iOnlyownMymind said:

    They are all better than the last two

    They may all be better than the first two as well...
    Well....I'm not too sure I would/could go that far...I suppose it all depends on one's perspective at the time (i.e., what was going on in one's life at the time).

    I love Binaural, really like Riot Act, and have been trying for years with "Avocado" but I just wasn't in a space at the times of their releases where the music had a huge impact on me. This is certainly not the case with Ten and Vs - or the next three for that matter.
    I agree that they're all better than the first two (not that I don't love Ten and Vs.). And definitely better than the last two. I love a few songs from LB, and like a bunch of the others, but there are a few such profound stinkers on that album that I'll never be able to consider it a great album. Only an okay album with some great songs on it.
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  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    Big Bank Hank said:

    My one complaint with Avocado is that the guitars are almost non-existent in the mixing, so is the bass for that matter, but it's something that isn't obvious unless you are listening for it, so it is only a minor annoyance, unlike Backspacer, which half the album I routinely skip

    This Comatose solo at 1:35 makes up for it.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFGTh_cSrLs&t=96
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