BIlly Corgan talks shit on PJ on Howard Stern show..
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Corgan may be a jerk but the new album is actually pretty good
it's funny, I'm not a big fan of it at all. And I love Zeitgeist, which to my surprise, most don't like at all. But what do I know? I also can't stand Adore.
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Stern should have asked him where the remaining songs went on his new 7 song "album" (which is actually solid).
correction, actually 9 songs for a whopping 32 mins!
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I have to ask you... Do you know how to count?? And yes it's very solid."Going where the water tastes like wine!"0 -
Don't care who loves or hates PJ but the Pumpkins catalog has aged pretty badly to my ears. In my teens i loved his voice and his lyrics. In my 30s i think both are pretty embarassing. I still like his guitar playing though.
I group them in with STP and Bush. Good musicians who got bigger than most but to me the lasting power isn't there. Corgan has very few essential tunes and i was a huge huge fan. So i disagree with him that he's up there with Kurt. If anyone is from the 90s it's likely someone like Jeff Mangum or someone along those lines. I remember in the 90s id laugh at the hair rockers who were trying to stay relevant. All they did was look like fools. It's weird and sad when bands you loved enter that territory. Looking at you, Billy.Post edited by cp3iverson on0 -
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Clearly not! I just remembered it was 32 mins - surely that couldn't actually be 9 songs??
I guess there is no need to amend the PJ @ The Gorge in 2015 petition to ask for the Pumpkins as the opener ...0 -
the tiki bomb wrote: »Um...yeah, he's a prick, I suppose, but whatever.
BC has been around long enough and had more than enough "success" to be able to say whatever he wants when an interviewer poses a question. It quite often takes a little bit of that type of self inflated attitude to be successful. Honestly, I prefer his honest opinion to mindless ass kissing.
I think most people prefer honest opinion over mindless ass kissing. but those aren't the only two options. and most often, he's not even asked about bands specifically. he's asked a general question (or no question at all) and he proceeds to slam other artists.
and I don't equate any level of "success" with a higher level of freedom of speaking one's mind.
can you imagine his whining and crying if he was the target of half of the criticism from other bands as he gives them? I think that's part of why it's so annoying; context is everything. he is SUCH a big baby ("I'm quitting music! wah! Britney sells more records than I do! Wah!").
I can take it from such assholes as the Gallagher brothers, because it comes from humorous egotism, and it just makes me laugh. Billy's comes from a place of whining insecurity. you almost feel sorry for the guy.
almost.
he so desperately wants to be thought of as a songwriting great, then says he doesn't care, then says he so desperately wants to be thought of as a songwriting great, then.......
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You guys are still upset over this? Let it gowww.myspace.com0
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The Juggler wrote: »You guys are still upset over this? Let it go
So sorry, Juggs. Didn't realize the thread had expired according to you. No one is upset. Just discussion man. Get over that already.
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paulonious wrote: »The Juggler wrote: »You guys are still upset over this? Let it go
So sorry, Juggs. Didn't realize the thread had expired according to you. No one is upset. Just discussion man. Get over that already.
I think you have an unhealthy obsession with Mr. Corgan.www.myspace.com0 -
Nah, Juggler. That would be me actually.
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2-feign-reluctance wrote: »Nah, Juggler. That would be me actually.
He has an unhealthy obsession with you?www.myspace.com0 -
The Juggler wrote: »paulonious wrote: »The Juggler wrote: »You guys are still upset over this? Let it go
So sorry, Juggs. Didn't realize the thread had expired according to you. No one is upset. Just discussion man. Get over that already.
I think you have an unhealthy obsession with Mr. Corgan.
what a strange comment. zero basis in reality. it's actually quite the opposite. check out www.alternativenation.net if you want to see a BC obsession (ScottStappsucks on here is the owner of that site).
I enjoy some of his music, and some of his antics. beyond that, not much else.
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as you said they have a BC obsession and more traffic on the site is more money for them. i quit going on that site for that reason a long time ago. don't fall for it. if you look hard enough you can see they enjoy it when readers attack each other on the site. gets your news somewhere else.0
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jd44jammin wrote: »as you said they have a BC obsession and more traffic on the site is more money for them. i quit going on that site for that reason a long time ago. don't fall for it. if you look hard enough you can see they enjoy it when readers attack each other on the site. gets your news somewhere else.
Fall for what? I get some news there of bands I like, the other, more obvious TMZ for grunge I don't even click on.
One of the contributors on that site is so disgusting, I can't even read his shit. Hesays incredibly graphic sex stuff about his obsession with taylor momsen (i dont even know who that is) and yes, the pwner has mentioned one insulting commenter as being "entertaining". But they arent getting money from me, so what do i care?
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Relax. I'm just giving you a hard time.paulonious wrote: »The Juggler wrote: »paulonious wrote: »The Juggler wrote: »You guys are still upset over this? Let it go
So sorry, Juggs. Didn't realize the thread had expired according to you. No one is upset. Just discussion man. Get over that already.
I think you have an unhealthy obsession with Mr. Corgan.
what a strange comment. zero basis in reality. it's actually quite the opposite. check out www.alternativenation.net if you want to see a BC obsession (ScottStappsucks on here is the owner of that site).
I enjoy some of his music, and some of his antics. beyond that, not much else.
I check out that site on Facebook daily. It can be annoying at times.
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paulonious wrote: »jd44jammin wrote: »as you said they have a BC obsession and more traffic on the site is more money for them. i quit going on that site for that reason a long time ago. don't fall for it. if you look hard enough you can see they enjoy it when readers attack each other on the site. gets your news somewhere else.
Fall for what? I get some news there of bands I like, the other, more obvious TMZ for grunge I don't even click on.
One of the contributors on that site is so disgusting, I can't even read his shit. Hesays incredibly graphic sex stuff about his obsession with taylor momsen (i dont even know who that is) and yes, the pwner has mentioned one insulting commenter as being "entertaining". But they arent getting money from me, so what do i care?
you aren't actually giving them money out of your pocket but sites like that generate money based on traffic volume. you should care because you are upset over something you are promoting by visiting it.0 -
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jd44jammin wrote: »paulonious wrote: »jd44jammin wrote: »as you said they have a BC obsession and more traffic on the site is more money for them. i quit going on that site for that reason a long time ago. don't fall for it. if you look hard enough you can see they enjoy it when readers attack each other on the site. gets your news somewhere else.
Fall for what? I get some news there of bands I like, the other, more obvious TMZ for grunge I don't even click on.
One of the contributors on that site is so disgusting, I can't even read his shit. Hesays incredibly graphic sex stuff about his obsession with taylor momsen (i dont even know who that is) and yes, the pwner has mentioned one insulting commenter as being "entertaining". But they arent getting money from me, so what do i care?
you aren't actually giving them money out of your pocket but sites like that generate money based on traffic volume. you should care because you are upset over something you are promoting by visiting it.
No, i shouldnt care. I go there for some news that i find relevant. And i stay from the articles written by that one guy. Do you refuse to read an entire newspaper simply because you dont like one columnist? Thats a bit silly.
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