Fraternities and Sororities-Time To Go?

gimmesometruth27 said:

Last-12-Exit said:

No, they still have a place in college. Had I not joined a fraternity I may have dropped out of college. It's all about the people. It's not all about drinking and partying. If partying and drinking is a fraternities rallying point, it will at some point lose its charter or the school will dump it. You just hope that they don't killl anyone before that happens.

Sigma Pi until you die!

i was a sig pi too.

back then i enjoyed it. when i joined i had just given up D1 college baseball due to injury. the only people i knew were the people on my team. i went through rush to meet people. and got in to one of the largest organizations on campus. there were a lot of guys from all different backgrounds and walks of life that i never would have met otherwise. some of the greatest experiences of my college years were a direct result of being in that organization. spring breaks, homecomings, charity events, being involved in student government, the occasional random, stupid and irresponsible road trip, etc. i have made lifelong friends that i still talk to all of the time. those people live all over the country. we helped each other with our classes, we helped each other land jobs, because you have a huge network when you get out of school.

all of that said, there were a few bad things that happened. the main component was the lack of control of the underage drinking. we ended up on probation for a year because some sorority woman was at our house, walked across the street to her house, and passed out in the front yard. other houses got in trouble for hazing, one got busted by the dea for selling cocaine and steroids to undercover agents.... we had a little bit of hazing, but it was not drink hazing and it wasn't very physical. it was more mind games than anything, like being put in a no win situation where you were going to piss off one active or another. you just had to pick who could fuck you over less. one new years eve, a kid who was in a pledge class where i was a pledge trainer, was killed by a drunk driver on new years eve. that kind of ruined the whole experience for me. things got very real after that. not a new years eve goes by where i do not think of matt armin.

in the end, every house on campus lost their charter at some point. we lost ours in 2006 i think. we got re-colonized in 2013. the greek system there now is all dry houses, meaning no alcohol on the property. it is a good thing in my opinion. we had our fun with it, but looking back things could have been much, much worse.

i don't have any answers for how to stop the sexual assaults. it is shameful. i never heard of anything like that happening in my house, but i am sure that they would have been kicked out and probably reported to the police, because disrespect of women was the one thing that did not fly in the house i was in.

i will say that you can ban the greek system, but what is to stop a group of students from forming their own group who is unsanctioned by a national body? at least being sanctioned provides some sort of oversight to make sure that some of these things do not happen.

mickeyrat said:

rgambs said:

From those who would keep the fraternity system in place, I am interested in what you think we should do to stop 20% of women in college from getting sexually assaulted?

Also not exclusive to greek system. Food for thought.