So I may not have a job after this tour.....

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  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    hedonist said:

    rgambs said:

    hedonist said:

    If the OP does indeed lose her job over the choice to attend concerts (I get the youth aspect and confidence in finding other work), would it be wrong of me to ask that unemployment benefits not be applied for?

    Under the rules as they exist she wouldn't qualify, but, sadly, that doesn't stop most people, and enforcement is weak.
    Ah, I thought it automatically kicks in upon being terminated (vs leaving of your own accord).

    They were pretty strict on guidelines when my husband was laid off last year!

    It does.If I dismiss an employee,I pay regardless.At least that's been our experience.
  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    I guess money doesn't mean that much to people that don't make any.
  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661

    I guess money doesn't mean that much to people that don't make any.

    I say that knowing my responsibilities may be different than yours. I have three young children that rely on me making money.

  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 51,490
    edited October 2014
    rgambs said:

    I don't get you people. You would risk your job over a concert? I love pearl jam as much as the next guy, but if my boss said I would be fired if I missed that time, no way I'd go. I don't know what you do for a living, I can see if you worked at a hole in the wall fast food joint making $7/hr. But if it's a good job, why risk it? Everybody has/had an ass hole boss. Just a fact of life.

    Life won't last, you gotta live it fast!
    Work and money aren't everything, to some people. Time and how you spend it is what's important. Have you been lucky in life and not known anyone who died young and never did anything but work?
    Work and money are FAR from most important to me in life, but I still wouldn't ditch work and risk my job for a show. What about responsibility to your colleagues? Not screwing over people i spend most of my days with is pretty high on my priority list.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    PJ_Soul said:

    rgambs said:

    I don't get you people. You would risk your job over a concert? I love pearl jam as much as the next guy, but if my boss said I would be fired if I missed that time, no way I'd go. I don't know what you do for a living, I can see if you worked at a hole in the wall fast food joint making $7/hr. But if it's a good job, why risk it? Everybody has/had an ass hole boss. Just a fact of life.

    Life won't last, you gotta live it fast!
    Work and money aren't everything, to some people. Time and how you spend it is what's important. Have you been lucky in life and not known anyone who died young and never did anything but work?
    Work and money are FAR from most important to me in life, but I still wouldn't ditch work and risk my job for a show. What about responsibility to your colleagues? Not screwing over people i spend most of my days with is pretty high on my priority list.
    Yup. I'm a work-to-live kind of person, but job and income are hugely important to the security, stability and peace of mind of myself and my husband. Also couldn't imagine leaving in the lurch the folks I've worked with for the last seven years!

  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,506
    I see a lot of people passing judgments on this thread. Honestly, if it isn't YOUR life, why does anyone feel the need to have an opinion?
  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,963
    edited October 2014
    because she posted it on a message board?


    You dont think it would/should raise eyebrows of a good % of people if someone says they are going to ditch their job to see a couple concerts (without any background info about hating the job, about to leave, other prospects, kids/no kids, how important the income is, living with mom & dad, F-U money, what if she works in a field where word travels and people inevitably find out the reason for leaving, is it Burger King or NASA? etc).

    Where I am in life, with a kid, mortgage, good job, it sounds ludicrous. In fact, even before in my 14 years in the working world I have had 3 employers, 2 I left with 2 weeks notice and resignation letter, etc. I had to hold onto one of the worst jobs ever for almost a year while I found some place better.

    I can see the "screw it its only money" side... but growing up in pretty-very poor conditions, I guess I have it ingrained that you hold onto work almost no matter what unless you have something lined up 100%.

    I do think its important too she hears the other side if the 'argument' that says its only a concert keep your job in order to make the best decision. It certainly shouldn't be taken lightly.
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  • Oh hell, go to the shows.
    I know people here who havent held a job for over 10 years.
    They go to dozens of shows.
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 51,490
    edited October 2014

    I see a lot of people passing judgments on this thread. Honestly, if it isn't YOUR life, why does anyone feel the need to have an opinion?

    S/He's the one who brought it up and this is a message board, so precisely a place where people respond to posts with their opinions. ;)
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,368

    I see a lot of people passing judgments on this thread. Honestly, if it isn't YOUR life, why does anyone feel the need to have an opinion?

    Not beat a dead horse, but you have to expect comments (good or bad) when you say you are risking your job for a Pearl Jam concert.
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    PJ_Soul said:

    I see a lot of people passing judgments on this thread. Honestly, if it isn't YOUR life, why does anyone feel the need to have an opinion?

    S/He's the one who brought it up and this is a message board, so precisely a place where people respond to posts with their opinions. ;)
    No shit! I have opinions on plenty of issues. I don't know the OP but pretty confident we've been nowhere near out of line to comment on the situation.

    Look, I'm envious of those who can afford to take a good chunk of time off to travel and see shows - hell, just to travel. But I can't wrap my head around risking a six-year job, potentially lose good references, burn bridges, etc. Not such a nutty reaction, is it?
  • Big Bank Hank
    Big Bank Hank Seattle, WA Posts: 8,639
    hedonist said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    I see a lot of people passing judgments on this thread. Honestly, if it isn't YOUR life, why does anyone feel the need to have an opinion?

    S/He's the one who brought it up and this is a message board, so precisely a place where people respond to posts with their opinions. ;)
    No shit! I have opinions on plenty of issues. I don't know the OP but pretty confident we've been nowhere near out of line to comment on the situation.

    Look, I'm envious of those who can afford to take a good chunk of time off to travel and see shows - hell, just to travel. But I can't wrap my head around risking a six-year job, potentially lose good references, burn bridges, etc. Not such a nutty reaction, is it?
    reason for leaving: wasn't given the time off I was promised verbally to go see Pearl Jam Tour

    newsflash: Pearl Jam is still an alternative band in the sense that at least 80% of people don't get our obsession with the band, maybe you can find a boss who likes Pearl Jam and understands, I had to follow up like 15 times to make sure I had the days off I needed to go see Pearl Jam in Memphis, there is no way I was taking their word for it, until I had it in writing or an email, I never considered it a done deal
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,506
    Responses and constructive advice are one thing, but people are responding with some rather snarky comments. There's no need for that, that's all I'm saying.
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524

    Responses and constructive advice are one thing, but people are responding with some rather snarky comments. There's no need for that, that's all I'm saying.

    There were no specific days off requested and approved - eight days, by the way. A week and a half.

    So, I'm not too surprised that some reactions are along the lines of "the fuck?!". Haven't seen much in the way of snarkiness either (although, sometimes I have a high threshold for that).

    And yes, Big Bank - always get it in writing.
  • rearviewschlem
    rearviewschlem Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 46
    My only major point is this; after six years with a company, and in impasse is reached concerning promised time off that has since been rescinded, I would think that her boss could at least reach another avenue than to tell her "there will be consequences". Any employee of mine with that amount of time in the game, would get very careful consideration on my part on how to fix the situation, but most importantly I would not have made a decision when first asked without carefully thinking it through. If her employer has that little of regard for her, than maybe she should look for another job. If she is going to look for another job, than do it after the concert, and not while employed in her current role. As far as having to explain to a future potential employer.... "I left due to my personal and professional dynamics not in alignment with my then employer" If asked to clarify... "I devoted 6 years to the company, asked for time off, was given the shouldn't be a problem standard answer, and when pressed when the time came, was told the original shouldn't be a problem approval was rescinded with no explanation. When I attempted to see if some sort of understanding could be reached, all I got was that there would be consequences.

    I'm tapped out on this one. I'm going back to the Lincoln discussion.
  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    I didn't even see where she was taking 8 days off. You probablywont have a job. 8 days is a long time. That's 2 full work weeks where I work. I'm only allowed to take 4 days off at one time. (However, working shift work means that 4 days off is really 12 days..) I'll assume you don't work shift work, but that's still a long time to ask to be off.
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927

    I didn't even see where she was taking 8 days off. You probablywont have a job. 8 days is a long time. That's 2 full work weeks where I work. I'm only allowed to take 4 days off at one time. (However, working shift work means that 4 days off is really 12 days..) I'll assume you don't work shift work, but that's still a long time to ask to be off.

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  • I didn't even see where she was taking 8 days off. You probablywont have a job. 8 days is a long time. That's 2 full work weeks where I work. I'm only allowed to take 4 days off at one time. (However, working shift work means that 4 days off is really 12 days..) I'll assume you don't work shift work, but that's still a long time to ask to be off.

    The number of days are not the issue. I usually take two entire weeks off, which is not a problem in my line of work.

    I have offered to work overtime and weekends, or any other solution that my boss would find acceptable, but he won't budge. The only reason he gave me is that he simply does not want to give me the time off.

    He told me he knew I would get the work done on time, even if I went away for a few days. He's basically just being an a**.

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  • rustneversleeps
    rustneversleeps The Motel of Lost Companions Posts: 2,209
    edited October 2014
    CM189191 said:

    I didn't even see where she was taking 8 days off. You probablywont have a job. 8 days is a long time. That's 2 full work weeks where I work. I'm only allowed to take 4 days off at one time. (However, working shift work means that 4 days off is really 12 days..) I'll assume you don't work shift work, but that's still a long time to ask to be off.

    The rest of the world is laughing at us again....

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  • rustneversleeps
    rustneversleeps The Motel of Lost Companions Posts: 2,209
    and getting paid to tour is sensational