So I may not have a job after this tour.....

Beegirl1980
Beegirl1980 Posts: 136
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May I have a moment of your time to vent?

I let my boss know MONTHS ago that I would need some time off in October. At the time he said that there wouldn't be a problem, but today he told me that he didn't want to give me the extra time off. He said "there would be consequences" if I went anyway.

I don't yet know what those consequences will be, but I may or may not have a job when I get back....

So if you happen to know of any job opportunities, I may be available as of November 1st :D
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 25,778
    i hope everything works out for you, and that you don't get fired. if you told them months ago and they granted it back then, they can't take it away now. you already made plans and spent hundreds of bucks on hotels, tickets, flights, etc. what kind of consequences can they threaten you with??

    i changed jobs in july. at my prior job i had off for the st louis show, and moline, which i ended up losing the lottery but thought i could score a ticket and go anyway. i interviewed for my current job in may and in my interview, and again when i called them to accept the offer, they said that taking those 2 fridays would be fine. i put in a formal request for those 2 days over 6 weeks ago. 3 days ago i found out that i got 10/3 off, but did not get 10/17. good thing i did not get moline tickets or i would have been screwed.

    i don't know how some of the people around here can take weeks off at a time and tour. i must be in the wrong line of work.
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  • Beegirl1980
    Beegirl1980 Posts: 136
    Exactly the same thing happened to me, they said it was okay but when the time came to sign off, they said no :(

    I only get two weeks off per year so I am definitely in the wrong line of work :)
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  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 11,072
    Did you book specific days off at the time or did you only vaguely make a request for a few weeks in October? In most of my jobs I've had to be pretty precise. IE most of my jobs have had a formal vacation policy which requires booking in advance and choose exact days. Prevents overlap and crap like that.

    Either way it sucks. When I was around 20ish I quite a job after a few months because the scheduling was crazy rigid. I don't ask for a lot of days off, but a day here and there to see a concert, I couldn't work a job that didn't let me do that.
  • Sandy66
    Sandy66 Queensland, Australia Posts: 226
    Don't understand why bosses do this, happy employees, good employees
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  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    Dude, IMO, a couple of concerts aren't worth your job. Unless you have mad skills and you are in high demand in your occupation it's hard to find a job now a days.

    It sounds like your work is screwing you over, but they can. He's the boss!
  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
    SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 27,734
    At this point in my life.
    If I told my wife I was going to the concerts and I didn't care if I lost my job.

    I would be divorced and homeless.


    Enjoy the shows!!!
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  • jerparker20
    jerparker20 St. Paul, MN Posts: 2,528
    SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

    At this point in my life.
    If I told my wife I was going to the concerts and I didn't care if I lost my job.

    I would be divorced and homeless.


    Enjoy the shows!!!

    Haha...
  • Beegirl1980
    Beegirl1980 Posts: 136
    Zod said:

    Did you book specific days off at the time or did you only vaguely make a request for a few weeks in October? In most of my jobs I've had to be pretty precise. IE most of my jobs have had a formal vacation policy which requires booking in advance and choose exact days. Prevents overlap and crap like that.

    I didn't book specific days, but that doesn't matter where I work because there is no overlap and I will have no trouble catching up once I get back. I will only be gone for 8 days. It's basically just my boss being an ****hole :(
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  • Beegirl1980
    Beegirl1980 Posts: 136
    Last-12-Exit said:

    Dude, IMO, a couple of concerts aren't worth your job. Unless you have mad skills and you are in high demand in your occupation it's hard to find a job now a days.

    I don't think I would have trouble finding another job actually. I speak a few foreign languages and there is a lot of demand for that over here. It's just that I've been working for the same company for 6 years and I would hate for it to end like that.
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  • Beegirl1980
    Beegirl1980 Posts: 136
    SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

    At this point in my life.
    If I told my wife I was going to the concerts and I didn't care if I lost my job.

    I would be divorced and homeless.


    Enjoy the shows!!!

    :)) that's a good one. At least I'm single so I only have one thing to worry about :P
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    All I can say is, always get it in writing.

    But since that can't be helped now, good luck with keeping the current job, or finding an even better one if this one goes by the wayside.
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  • ldent42
    ldent42 NYC Posts: 7,859
    This made me think of that stupid new commercial with the kids begging for "one more day" of vacation. I've seen a bit of press recently about how Americans don't use their vacation days even when they do get them - as though it's something people do by choice. Especially with bigger corporate companies trying to schedule time off is almost impossible. I know one guy who has to pick his days off for the whole year the first week of January. How are you supposed to live life like that?
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  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
    SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 27,734
    Beegirl1980 said:

    SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

    At this point in my life.
    If I told my wife I was going to the concerts and I didn't care if I lost my job.

    I would be divorced and homeless.


    Enjoy the shows!!!

    :)) that's a good one. At least I'm single so I only have one thing to worry about :P
    I really hope everything works out for you.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 17,031
    ldent42 said:

    This made me think of that stupid new commercial with the kids begging for "one more day" of vacation. I've seen a bit of press recently about how Americans don't use their vacation days even when they do get them - as though it's something people do by choice. Especially with bigger corporate companies trying to schedule time off is almost impossible. I know one guy who has to pick his days off for the whole year the first week of January. How are you supposed to live life like that?

    I've been at one place like that. A union plant. Had to pick them at the beginning of the year and started by seniority. If you didn't have 30 years in forget time off at the holidays.

    Thankfully I wasn't in the union.
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  • Leezestarr313
    Leezestarr313 Temple of the cat Posts: 14,457
    gimmesometruth27 said:



    i don't know how some of the people around here can take weeks off at a time and tour. i must be in the wrong line of work.

    Back in Germany, I had 25 days for vacation, 25 work days, so that was around 5 weeks off every year. I worked overtime a lot, so I had always more days to spend. This is how you can go and take three weeks off at a time (which I did for PJ20) and still have vacation days left. Now I am self employed, which allows to take time off whenever I want and can afford it. (Does have disadvantages too of course, with health care etc etc)
    Two weeks a year? That sounds incredibly bad for life quality and work motivation. And then even to hear that people do not use their free days...

    OP, I hope you won't be having any troubles and can enjoy the show/s!

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  • Beegirl1980
    Beegirl1980 Posts: 136
    Leezestarr313 said:


    Back in Germany, I had 25 days for vacation, 25 work days, so that was around 5 weeks off every year. I worked overtime a lot, so I had always more days to spend. This is how you can go and take three weeks off at a time (which I did for PJ20) and still have vacation days left. Now I am self employed, which allows to take time off whenever I want and can afford it. (Does have disadvantages too of course, with health care etc etc)
    Two weeks a year? That sounds incredibly bad for life quality and work motivation. And then even to hear that people do not use their free days...

    OP, I hope you won't be having any troubles and can enjoy the show/s!

    I used to have 25 days as well, but then I moved to Mexico. Over here you work 6 days a week, and you start off with 6 vacation days. Then you get 2 extra days for each year you stay with the same company, until you get to 14. Then you stay at 14 for 5 years, and after that you get two more per year until you get to 21, and then you're stuck at that number forever.

    But hey, the weather here is awesome :))
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 25,778
    Beegirl1980 said:

    Exactly the same thing happened to me, they said it was okay but when the time came to sign off, they said no :(

    I only get two weeks off per year so I am definitely in the wrong line of work :)

    in the interview process they really tried to sell their vacation policy. and that policy was a big factor in me choosing this job. i could have made $5-6000 more a year but have less vacation had i chosen the other offer. they told me that the day i hire on i get:

    21 vacation days
    11 holidays
    3 personal days
    10 sick days

    that is well over a month, and is the most time off i have had in my career. what they didn't say is that i would be such an integral part that if i took a day off it would screw up the entire operation for a few days. they did not say it was going to be such a pain in the ass to get off and use that time. it has to be approved by the surgeon i work with, then our office manager, then hospital HR department, and finally the university HR department.

    i should have gotten it in writing during the interview process, but when i interviewed i was more serious about the other offer because i was looking at salary over all else.
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  • Suziemay
    Suziemay Posts: 11,168
    Oh no! I'm sorry to hear that :( But it sounds like you aren't too worried about finding another job and your boss sounds like an ass anyway so maybe a blessing in disguise?
  • Beegirl1980
    Beegirl1980 Posts: 136
    Suziemay said:

    Oh no! I'm sorry to hear that :( But it sounds like you aren't too worried about finding another job and your boss sounds like an ass anyway so maybe a blessing in disguise?

    Yeah maybe :) I think either way it will work out fine, I was planning on making a career change anyway but I would rather leave on good terms.
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  • ldent42
    ldent42 NYC Posts: 7,859
    FWIW most ppl that I know who take off for a month or more at a time do so with the understanding that the job might not be there when they get back.
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