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JK_Livin said:

Was that the 40-8 game?

yeah. garner had like 130 yards on 16 carries or something. that was the year they started 7-0 and finished 7-9

was that a monday night game or am i thinking of another niners-eagles game that was a blowout?

no this one was an afternoon game.

now i'm trying to think of another blowout between these two teams. hmmm.....

I think this is the game i was thinking of Sept. 18, 2005, 42-3. I just remember McNabb was on fire and than Koy Detmer came in and did great, LOL.

http://www.footballdb.com/games/boxscore.html?gid=2005091809

wow. that goes to show how forgettable the '05 season was for me. I was at the game and have no recollection of it.

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Was that a Sunday night game? I remember listening to it on the radio on the way back from somewhere (probably a concert).

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JK_Livin said:

Was that the 40-8 game?

yeah. garner had like 130 yards on 16 carries or something. that was the year they started 7-0 and finished 7-9

was that a monday night game or am i thinking of another niners-eagles game that was a blowout?

no this one was an afternoon game.

now i'm trying to think of another blowout between these two teams. hmmm.....

I think this is the game i was thinking of Sept. 18, 2005, 42-3. I just remember McNabb was on fire and than Koy Detmer came in and did great, LOL.

http://www.footballdb.com/games/boxscore.html?gid=2005091809

wow. that goes to show how forgettable the '05 season was for me. I was at the game and have no recollection of it.

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Was that a Sunday night game? I remember listening to it on the radio on the way back from somewhere (probably a concert).

this is like the one game in the last 30 years I don't remember. haha -- no idea. it was the home opener though.

no apparently that game started at 1. I do remember another blowout game involving a Detmer brother on either a Sunday or Monday night though.

How about the flare gun Monday nighter at The Vet? That was awesome. We got our asses kicked. Wasn't that the 1st game they ever wore green jerseys and green pants? Bobby Hoying at the helm I think.

Here it is. I think I shed a tear reading this.
Violence At The Vet Eagles Say Feathers Will Fly Against Future Unruly Fans

by April Adamson, Daily News Staff Writer
POSTED: November 18, 1997
An Eagles fan suffers broken bones standing in a Veterans Stadium restroom line.

Minutes later, a gung-ho fan fires a flare gun into the stands.

After the latest home-game disgrace, Eagles football at the Vet seems more dangerous than ever. Fans guzzle record amounts of beer inside the stadium and who knows what at pre-game tailgate parties, officials said. Worse, many fans no longer fear the wrist-slap punishment of ejection.

``Is it a bigger problem than last year?'' asked city Recreation Commissioner Michael DiBerardinis. ``It looks like it. It looks like the problem is growing. Monday night was more of a problem than we normally have.''

Violence and inebriation - which typically peak during halftime pot-smoking and brawling - reached such a level at the Nov. 10 Monday Night Football game against the 49ers that the Eagles say they will announce a ``get tough'' policy against unruly fans later this week.

The team wouldn't elaborate, but said the policy will include ``zero tolerance'' for violence. Last Monday's lawlessness stunned some fans, appalled that innocent beer drinking and tailgating have escalated into violence that lands spectators in the hospital. Fans say the wanton meanness seems to flow from the upper levels into the more expensive seats.

``I gave my season tickets away,'' said Scott Reader, whose beating at last week's game has been talked about in venues as diverse as sports-talk radio and WXPN-FM's Kids Corner.

``My children will never see an Eagles game,'' he vowed. Eagles officials say stadium crime is down, fan satisfaction is up and the security staff is among the largest in the NFL. Nevertheless, fans and city officials acknowledge that an outing to a home football game has become something many law-abiding fans no longer consider a family experience.

City officials can't pinpoint what's causing the trend toward all-out debauchery.

The Recreation Department suspects increased beer sales. Fans finger lax security. City officials blame masses of increasingly uncontrollable fans.

Despite Daily News stories this season describing riotous tailgating and half-time pot smoking, the Eagles' front office sees the Monday night incident as a mere aberration that forced it ``one step backward'' in efforts to make home games more family-oriented.

``Believe me, the Vet is not a perfect place with no problems,'' said Eagles V.P. Joe Banner. ``But we have gotten through this season with a small number of arrests.''

The Eagles refused to elaborate on plans to crack down on revelers, other than to say a ``zero tolerance'' campaign will be announced. They also refused to release the number and locations of their security staff during home games, as well as the number of arrests that have been made this season.

``We can't give you increased arrest numbers, because the arrests haven't happened yet,'' said Eagles spokesman Ron Howard. ``We are aware of what fans are saying.''

To control the 67,000 fans who typically crowd the stadium's seven levels, there are about 175 to 200 security guards and ushers, as well as a handful of city cops, according to stadium officials.

The Eagles claim the stadium security force is significantly higher than those numbers, but refuse to provide details.

At Phillies games, where the crowds are just one-fourth the size and fans are of a ``calmer demeanor,'' the hired security staff is smaller, according to Greg Grillone, stadium director.

At the Monday night game, an all-out brawl on the 500 level and a slap-happy fan with a flare gun on the 200 level punctuated the beginning and end of the game. Just before the opening kickoff, a violent scuffle erupted outside an upper-level bathroom when five drunken fans mauled Scott Reader, a South Jersey native, who suffered a shattered ankle and cigar burns from the run-in.

The fight's motive, authorities said, was a New York Giants jacket worn by Reader's friend.

One security guard ran to Reader's aid, but only after his beating was complete, said the self-employed carpenter.

``The guard told me that he was sorry he couldn't help me, but there were five of them and only one of him,'' Reader said.

Later that night, when the Eagles fell behind in the game, Mayor Rendell ordered additional security to the troublesome upper levels of the stadium, where pot smoking and drinking runs rampant at every game.

But that didn't seem to deter Robert Sellers from shooting off a flare into an unsuspecting mob of fans on the 200 level as a game finale. Sellers, of Toms River, N.J., later said he got caught up in the chaos of the crowd.

``It's bizarre behavior,'' said City Councilman Frank DiCicco. ``Sports will suffer if people don't get ahold of the situation.''

In all, there were three arrests during the game and several thefts, including pick-pocketing, car thefts and stolen Eagles merchandise, police said.

``The most disturbing thing was the flare,'' Rendell said. ``Someone could have really gotten hurt. I'm also concerned about the level of drunkenness. I don't accept for a moment that we should just write off Eagles games as a place where you can't bring your kids.''

When the stadium hosts sporting events or concerts, it is the team or promoter's responsibility to hire additional security. Since the Phillies and Eagles are considered the stadium's long-term tenants, their leases dictate that they must hire outside security to keep the peace at all home games.

Often, 4th District police officers staff the exterior of the stadium. They only intervene, however, when arrests must be made, according to police.

Police say Monday night games, which follow a full day of drinking for many fans, are often the most troublesome.

``The problem is tailgating,'' said one city detective. ``If they get rid of tailgating, that's three-quarters of the problem.''

The Juggler said:

so the flare gun was shot from the 200 level? who would've guess that?

I know it was shot at the 200 level.

i'm actually pretty confident in this game. I think we win pretty easily (which of course means we will lose ) ) not necessarily a blowout but maybe like a 27-13 win.

realty tough spot for Birds today. coming off physical division game, having to go cross country to play what is supposed to be a good team in an almost must win situation. would be a great win but I don't see it either. I think D gets torched today. say 42-30 San Fran

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for some reason the lions picked up alex henery. he just missed a 52 yarder by about 700 yards.

) who was their kicker? i i don't even remember

This might be a spanking