Rob Zombie Says Grunge Killed Rock In The U.S.

rgambs said:

papa roach? Say what?

My thought exactly.

smarchee said:

all Rob Zombie songs sound the same

True, but I've got a soft spot for his music, in the same way I do for bands like AC/DC who also rehash the same song.

I don't think he's necessarily wrong in what he says though. And in some ways it was a bit ironic that all these early 90's bands spurned the hedonistic lifestyle of the 80's rock stars, yet they idolised the 60's and 70's bands like Led Zeppelin, The Who etc, who were just as debauched if not more so!

just saw Zombie at Rockville fest with A7x,Staind,Korn,etc...He was decent ,And John5 is a beast on guitar.But he isn't relevant in the grand rock scheme in my opinion.

well shitty Rock bands killed the rock scene, don't blame "grunge" Hair metal and their derivatives made the rock fans want to puke after awhile. Producers like Bob "Cock" Rock killed rock with their notion that things like the guitar solo were dead and a cliche (ask Kirk Hammet what he thought of that). The record labels signed up every imitation and high pitched squeeler with teased hair and turned fans off rock into the Alternative Rock scene. If anything Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, NIN, Janes SAVED rock. When the grunge scene/Seattle Sound faded the void was filled with shitty POp music/Boy bands/ and poseur wannabes. Remember the Rock hip hop trend, LIMP BISCUIT REALLY???

Then digital music killed the album, the industry stopped worrying about creating great albums and more for one hit wonders to make their cash. So yeah quality on a album basis has suffered immensely, the radio conglomerates played only the same shitty sound over and over until we just turned it off. MTV stopped doing videos to focus on lowest common denominator shows so no new talent was exposed like the last great Rock era/Alt rock movement of 89-96. Guns and Roses died, Metallica cockified finally drugged out----and cut their hair, ACDC got old, Nirvana died, Soundgarden split, NIN went techno industrial then on sabbatical. Other than Pearl Jam who the industry and other musicians shit on with ticketmaster, who the fuck was left to be a great rock band (and lest face it ED WANTED NOTHING TO DO WITH BEING "THE BAND"), of course the scene died ROB. Stupid reunion tours costing too much to ever go see for kids took over and the accessibility of rock went to shit.

You'd be nowhere without fucking Beavis and Butthead, and your lame as dress like a Zombie shit is just as bit as any Hair metal was as far as making your image trump your music. Go have a fake blood cocktail with Marilyn Manson jackass.

Rock and Roll will never die, but it like any style has to evolve, instead of devolving or staying stagnant. But don't say guitar solos which are rock and roll are passe, it is not rock without some killer licks and riffs.

Go make some more shitty movies Rob, because we can tell music is totally your focus based on your last 15 years

And lol at Papa Roach. Senior year of high school we used their one popular song during our ice hockey warm ups prior to the game. )

A couple of us May or may not have had frosted tips at the time :-&

There's always been great music. There's great music all around today. It's just now what's on the radio.

So RZ is an authority on rock music... That's funny right there. Dude, just stick to your crapping Goth Rock and Oscar winning movie directing... :-q

It's an interesting take on the issue no doubt, and does deserve thought and discussion. I do disagree though. It's misguided blame...

The issue is the overall media and culture of the USA and also the way music is marketed and delivered. Technology too makes it possible for anyone with a computer to manufacture a hit "song" without knowing how to play an instrument or even sing.

I also don't blame it on "rap guys" seeing rock get lackluster and decide to carry the torch. By all accounts, rap is in a sorry state too music wise.

Right around 2000 was where rock dropped far off the mainstream and we had plenty of mainstream rock acts who weren't grunge. Metallica, limp biscuit, blink 182, etc were popular but really couldn't maintain the staying power up top of "trl" like those boy bands or brittany.

Now it doesn't seem like there is good delivery to the masses of rock. No more mtv, good rock radio stations still seem to be majority 90s driven. There is good stuff but unless it's black keys and foo fighters, you have to go out of your way to find it. It was great when all of youth were exposed to mtv, as much as I loathe it now.

Did rob zombie really want to see Eddie vedder or cornell guest hosting trl with Carson daly to stay "relevant"?

The untimely and too early tragedies that killed nirvana, sublime, aic, blind melon, etc didn't help either.

Boston George and pablo escobar killed rock in the early 80's

It just wasn't the right drug

"grunge" found a good combo to tap into the depths that had not been visited since the late 70's

Unfortunately, part of that combo came with grave consequences for some


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J10w3FuCwfQ

Cornell said pretty much the same thing on wtf.