Need Help!! Customs Charge for Poster

willbarclay
willbarclay Ottawa, Canada Posts: 3,298
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Hey All

Need some advice...

Myself and 2 other members here made a 3 way trade. Im getting the Cracker Jack Wrigley poster.
I had to contact UPS to correct some info for my mailing address and they also just informed me that the sender put a value of $360 on this poster, and that I will have to pay $100+ when they deliver it either today, or Monday.

Is this nuts??

Any thoughts, or ideas to avoid this?

Much appreciated

WIll
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  • 100 Pacer
    100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,321
    willbarclay said:

    Hey All

    Need some advice...

    Myself and 2 other members here made a 3 way trade. Im getting the Cracker Jack Wrigley poster.
    I had to contact UPS to correct some info for my mailing address and they also just informed me that the sender put a value of $360 on this poster, and that I will have to pay $100+ when they deliver it either today, or Monday.

    Is this nuts??

    Any thoughts, or ideas to avoid this?

    Much appreciated

    WIll

    You can reject the shipment and UPS will ship the poster back to the sender, who can then send it via USPS and declare the poster as a Gift with a value of $10.00 and Canada Post will deliver the poster to you free of any customs charges/duties.
    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

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  • MT132914
    MT132914 Posts: 188
    don't put a value on it, but then if it gets damaged you are screwed.
    I bought a poster a few months ago and got hit $20 when Canada Post delivered it, $10 customs and $10 processing fee. Heard of a few others getting charged customs too. Can't see why you would have $100 as taxes are 13%, unless UPS tack on a nice little chunck for themselves.
  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,853
    yeah. I sent (you) the poster via UPS and declared the value at $35 what retail was, and I believe you sent the vinyl at its original value as well. Nobody got decked. May be a little risky w/o insurance value, but whatever.

    but yeah, reject it. Sucks to wait, but $100+ sucks more
  • BeerBaron
    BeerBaron Toronto-ish Posts: 4,100
    The basic rule with Canada Customs is that anything with a declared value of > $60 (even if it is a gift) is subject to customs charges. Those charges are the HST (13%), which in your case would be just over $50 (first you convert the $360 US to CAD and then take 13% of that). The remaining $50 is a "brokerage fee" that UPS is charging you to "do the customs paperwork and clearance for you" which is total BS, but there's no avoiding that (Fedex does it too).

    The issue you have is that the sender wants to protect himself if the poster gets damaged in transit by having it insured for the fair value (replacement value) of the poster. That unfortunately puts you in the the predicament that you are in.
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  • willbarclay
    willbarclay Ottawa, Canada Posts: 3,298
    thanks for all the info guys. I guess I will have to reject, and start over.

    I didnt pay a dime for this poster, it was a trade so I should not have to pay customs

    I have been after this cracker jack for a while now, and this is the shit I get. LOL
  • willbarclay
    willbarclay Ottawa, Canada Posts: 3,298
    thanks Beer Baron

    thats a great Simpsons Episode
  • front spacer
    front spacer Earth Posts: 3,249
    willbarclay said:

    thanks for all the info guys. I guess I will have to reject, and start over.

    I didnt pay a dime for this poster, it was a trade so I should not have to pay customs

    I have been after this cracker jack for a while now, and this is the shit I get. LOL

    Don't forget that the customs charge is based on the declared value, not necessarily what you paid for it.

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  • pdalowsky
    pdalowsky Doncaster,UK Posts: 15,214
    Will, surely if you print the page from Ebeans and prove the value of the poster was misdeclared the bill will be reduced?
  • willbarclay
    willbarclay Ottawa, Canada Posts: 3,298
    you think??

    When I spoke with UPS I did say that the value was incorrect, as $360 is what people on ebay are selling it for.
    I told them its more like $190 and they said its in the same value bracket as $360. So either way, its $100 fees.
  • BeerBaron
    BeerBaron Toronto-ish Posts: 4,100
    pdalowsky said:

    Will, surely if you print the page from Ebeans and prove the value of the poster was misdeclared the bill will be reduced?

    I think you can go through that process to save yourself the HST, but the brokerage fee is for their brokerage services, so I doubt you could have that part of the fee reversed as they've already had to clear the print through customs.
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  • front spacer
    front spacer Earth Posts: 3,249
    Are these just fees for posters entering into Canada, or is it because it was international UPS or FedEx? I got two pretty expensive posters from a member in Canada, and didn't have ANY extra fess when it was delivered to me in the states.
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  • 100 Pacer
    100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,321
    pdalowsky said:

    Will, surely if you print the page from Ebeans and prove the value of the poster was misdeclared the bill will be reduced?

    Unless it's a bill of sale/invoice or Paypal receipt to support your claim, it's difficult to make your case otherwise with Customs.

    I remember a few years back I received a poster from the States declared as $10.00 but for whatever reason the Canada Customs agent dinged the package as $100.00 declared value. Even after submitting the carbon copy of the USPS customs declaration form to the Canada Customs rep as evidence I was questioned, as if somehow I "misrepresented" the original customs declaration. At the end I received a refund of the customs duty I paid but was refused a refund for the service fee on the customs charge that never should have been processed in the 1st place.

    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

    "Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."

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  • 100 Pacer
    100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,321
    front spacer said:

    Are these just fees for posters entering into Canada, or is it because it was international UPS or FedEx? I got two pretty expensive posters from a member in Canada, and didn't have ANY extra fess when it was delivered to me in the states.

    US Customs might take a more lax approach; however, Canada Customs agents are beaten over the head to inspect every single parcel/package entering this country and in addition to searching for contraband the agents look for declared values subject to import duties/charges. It's a significant source of revenue after all.

    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

    "Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."

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  • BeerBaron
    BeerBaron Toronto-ish Posts: 4,100
    front spacer said:

    Are these just fees for posters entering into Canada, or is it because it was international UPS or FedEx? I got two pretty expensive posters from a member in Canada, and didn't have ANY extra fess when it was delivered to me in the states.

    This is just for goods coming IN TO Canada. US customs is much more lenient on shipments of goods in to the US.
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  • 100 Pacer
    100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,321
    edited April 2014
    BeerBaron said:

    front spacer said:

    Are these just fees for posters entering into Canada, or is it because it was international UPS or FedEx? I got two pretty expensive posters from a member in Canada, and didn't have ANY extra fess when it was delivered to me in the states.

    This is just for goods coming IN TO Canada. US customs is much more lenient on shipments of goods in to the US.
    We should have also stated that all courier companies are making a killing on the brokerage services they provide to clear said packages entering Canada, so a package shipped from the States into Canada with FedEx or UPS will have already been declared by said courier to Canada Customs before it even arrives in Canada and those couriers remit customs charges/duty electronically to Canada Customs. After a Canadian receives the package, an invoice is mailed to cover the customs charges payable back to the courier.
    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

    "Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."

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  • Edge34
    Edge34 Ottawa Posts: 233
    I just got dinged last week for my PJ20 Billboard $125 customs fees. Sucked. Looked into it and really not much I could do. The seller insured it and I was stuck.
  • front spacer
    front spacer Earth Posts: 3,249
    Edge34 said:

    I just got dinged last week for my PJ20 Billboard $125 customs fees. Sucked. Looked into it and really not much I could do. The seller insured it and I was stuck.

    Are you in Canada, too?
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  • willbarclay
    willbarclay Ottawa, Canada Posts: 3,298
    Looks like I will just bite the bullet on this one.

    Thanks everyone for your ideas and help.

  • texasistheSTEVEN
    texasistheSTEVEN Posts: 1,111
    And I thought I got stiffed everytime I got something from tenclub and had to pay £18 customs charges.
    There is a lesson in this for everyone. DONT LIVE IN CANADA.hah.

    Sorry to hear this Will. Hope it works out
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  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,853
    Do you ever travel to the US?

    Would be worth it to send things to a friend and grab them when you are around.

    I have a friend who does business in Toronto and he is always getting packages for buddies of his to hold until next time they come to Buffalo for a shopping spree.

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