I ranked No Code by track...how would you rank it?

1. Off he goes
2. Present Tense
3. Sometimes
4. Lukin
5. Around the bend
6. Hail Hail
7. Smile
8. In my tree
9. RedMosquito
10. Habit
11. Who you are
12. Mankind
13. I'm Open

This is definitely my 2nd favorite album from PJ. LOVE Habit and Around the bend.

1. Off He Goes
2. Habit
3. Around the Bend
4. Sometimes
5. In My Tree
6. Who you are
7. Lukin
8. Red Mosquito
9. Present Tense
10. I'm Open
11. Hail Hail
12. Smile
13. Mankind

thefin190 said:

karmadefect said:

Why so little love for I'm open?

Don't get me wrong, I don't think I'm Open is terrible or anything like that. The only reason why I ranked it low was because it is an unconventional "song", if you could even call it a song. I actually like it a lot, along with "I'm Still Here", I just don't know if it should've been on the album taking up a track.

If I could choose, I would've had Mankind and I'm Open be B-Sides, while including "I've Got Shit" and "Long Road' onto No Code, as both of those songs would've fit perfectly on No Code.

I agree with you that I got Id and long road would have fitted nicely on No code.
However I'm open fits even better because of the experimental nature of the album.
I understand you comparison to I'm still here, but it also falls somewhat short I feel.
The reason I think so is because I'm open is fully worked out and I'm still here to me is only a sketch.
You're right about calling it unconventional, but there are alot of bands that have little pieces of music like that.
I think I'm open is placed quite nicely in the tracklist. It's a majestic opener for Around the bend.
One is about a the loss of the inner child and the other is a sweet lullabye, it's almost
like he's trying to prevent the lyric's for I'm open from happening to the subject in Around the bend.

I'm open fits very well with Sometimes and Present tense in terms of sound and style.

13. Mankind

12. I'm Open

11. Around the Bend

10. Habit

9. In My Tree

8. Who You Are

7. Lukin

6. Red Mosquito

5. Off He Goes

4. Sometimes

3. Present Tense

2. Smile

1. Hail Hail

1 - Off He Goes
2 - Present Tense
3 - In My Tree
4 - Smile
5 - Sometimes
6 - Hail Hail
7 - Who You Are
8 - Red Mosquito
9 - Habit
10 - Lukin
11 - Mankind
12 - Around the Bend
13 - I'm Open

karmadefect said:

PJ_Soul said:

(I'm 100% sure about I'm Open though. It's the only song on the album that I actually don't really like. I just don't feel it - has an insincere or contrived tone for me.)

X_X Really?
Wow, just wow.
Of course you sort of explain it in the post, but why don't you feel it?
Insincere or contrived tone how so?
Not to jump on you, but I am just very curious because it is so far from how I feel about the song.

I just just don't feel it, lol. I mean, I don't sense the real feeling in Eddie's voice or intonations.. As though HE isn't really feeling it, and rather just doing a job of making it sound real. Like maybe he already did it a dozen times within an hour, and by the time a take suited them well enough for publication the words had lost all Meaning. It had just become a recitation and some acting... Like maybe Eddie couldn't retain the true emotion in the delivery like he does with songs sung as opposed to spoken word. The result kind of feels contrived and even pretentious to me, as though art is being forced. That's how the essence of it feels to me.

I am glad some people like it though!

1. In My Tree
2. Off He Goes
3. Who You Are
4. Hail, Hail
5. Red Mosquito
6. Present Tense
7. Sometimes
8. Smile
9. Habit
10. I'm Open
11. Around the Bend
12. Lukin
13. Mankind

PJ_Soul said:

karmadefect said:

PJ_Soul said:

(I'm 100% sure about I'm Open though. It's the only song on the album that I actually don't really like. I just don't feel it - has an insincere or contrived tone for me.)

X_X Really?
Wow, just wow.
Of course you sort of explain it in the post, but why don't you feel it?
Insincere or contrived tone how so?
Not to jump on you, but I am just very curious because it is so far from how I feel about the song.

I just just don't feel it, lol. I mean, I don't sense the real feeling in Eddie's voice or intonations.. As though HE isn't really feeling it, and rather just doing a job of making it sound real. Like maybe he already did it a dozen times within an hour, and by the time a take suited them well enough for publication the words had lost all Meaning. It had just become a recitation and some acting... Like maybe Eddie couldn't retain the true emotion in the delivery like he does with songs sung as opposed to spoken word. The result kind of feels contrived and even pretentious to me, as though art is being forced. That's how the essence of it feels to me.

I am glad some people like it though!

I do understand what you mean. At least better than I did before.
The diliverance of the words is somewhat robotic, but I think it has a purpose and it was done in purpose.
I think it is meant to show how hopeless and lifeless that grown up actually is.

1.In My Tree
2. Present Tense
3. Hail, Hail
4. Smile
5. Red Mosquito
6. Sometimes
7. Off He Goes
8. Who You Are
9. Around The Bend
10. Habit
11. Lukin
12. Mankind
13. I'm Open