Mother defends family...makes mainstream news

unsung
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Good for her.

http://www.wxyz.com/news/mom-opens-fire-on-home-invaders-in-detroit-to-defend-children
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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    sooo ... your agenda of accessibility to guns makes you celebrate a story like this? ... so sad ...
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    A mother that is willing and able to defend her family from three thugs; yeah there's a lot to celebrate about that.
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    what mother isn't?

    do you think the primary purpose of the thugs was to physically hurt the mother and her children?
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    you may think that the world is a safer place now if everyone is armed but that simply isn't true ... so, now - the thugs are going to come with more guns and shoot her first ... and we have an arms race ... you see what the nuclear arms race did for us right?

    it's like the SUV argument ... people driving SUVs because they think they are safer because they are bigger and can see above small cars ... well, they had to keep making them bigger and bigger ...

    if the problem is armed robbery - the solution is not to arm people ... the solution is to decrease the desire for armed robbery ... the answer to that is not guns ...
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Would you have preferred that those three had success in their venture? It sure sounds like it.
  • BinFrog
    BinFrog MA Posts: 7,314
    I commend you on being able to twist anything anyone says to suit your purposes.
    Bright eyed kid: "Wow Typo Man, you're the best!"
    Typo Man: "Thanks kidz, but remembir, stay in skool!"
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    nice story. she did good

    polaris, you're comparing SUV's, the nuclear arms race & home security? this is what you're doing, yes/no?
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    unsung said:

    Would you have preferred that those three had success in their venture? It sure sounds like it.


    #-o

    ok ... i will type the words that should be obvious ...

    NO - I do not want the invaders to have been successful ... I also do not believe that physical harm to her and her children were their intent ... I also do not believe potentially killing someone is worth defending your tv and jewelery over ...

    what I AM trying to get across is that arming people may seem like a way of protecting one self but it does not address the crux of the problem ...

    this happened in Detroit where the economy has gone to shits and the gap between the haves and have nots is enormous ... unemployment is very high and the city's ability to deliver services is impacted by the fact it is essentially broke ...

    do you want to live in a society where people are shooting at each other every day/night? do you like the idea of the old wild west kind of justice? everyone carries a piece and let's settle our differences with a good ole' fashioned shootout?

    what kind of society are you trying to defend here?
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    chadwick said:

    nice story. she did good

    polaris, you're comparing SUV's, the nuclear arms race & home security? this is what you're doing, yes/no?

    yes
  • BinFrog
    BinFrog MA Posts: 7,314
    I think it's time everyone re-read The Butter Battle Book
    Bright eyed kid: "Wow Typo Man, you're the best!"
    Typo Man: "Thanks kidz, but remembir, stay in skool!"
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    edited February 2014
    where did it say she took direct aim at the intruders? to me it reads 'warning shots fired' which means, i have a gun & can use it, if you wanna mess around here you'll get hurt or worse, i'm not playin with you.

    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    by the way, any woman in the city of detroit at home with children or alone should have a gun in the house to use for protection. vice president biden said get a shotgun for home security... that is a wonderful idea
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    Maybe we should be looking at some of the causes of gun violence. Poverty being a huge one. But some would rather get distracted by the more hot button issues.

  • jmuscatello
    jmuscatello Colorado Posts: 332
    dignin said:

    Maybe we should be looking at some of the causes of gun violence. Poverty being a huge one. But some would rather get distracted by the more hot button issues

    guns distract me every time because I wish there were fewer of them
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    polaris_x said:

    what mother isn't?

    do you think the primary purpose of the thugs was to physically hurt the mother and her children?

    Who cares what their primary purpose was? We can ascertain that after the fact and from afar much easier than if we were in the moment.

    The mother was within her right to defend herself- especially being inside of her home. When you expressed shooting someone for trying to take your jewellery is poor, are you suggesting she should have bundled her kids up and allowed the intrusion to occur? Some of these 'intrusions' go badly for the homeowner. Are you thinking she should have rolled the dice that this one wasn't going to go badly for her?
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    chadwick said:

    where did it say she took direct aim at the intruders? to me it reads 'warning shots fired' which means, i have a gun & can use it, if you wanna mess around here you'll get hurt or worse, i'm not playin with you.

    Yup. And who knows what anyone's intent is when they break in to your home?

    Recalling the panic she felt, the mom says "I let them know I had a gun once they were in the house. They said no you don't so I shot off the first round. I wasn't feeling anything at the moment, I got scared afterwards."

    Seems she did alright here.
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    chadwick said:

    by the way, any woman in the city of detroit at home with children or alone should have a gun in the house to use for protection. vice president biden said get a shotgun for home security... that is a wonderful idea

    The reality is that, sadly, it's probably a good idea: get a shotgun for protection.

    I have always been for gun legislation, but maintained such a basic right; however, given a shotgun will suffice nicely for the scenario Unsung has presented to push his cause, I think that there is no place for the AR-15 or a 9mm handgun. You only need such weaponry to commit murder or shoot beer cans- neither outweigh the risks associated with such weaponry on the streets.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,086
    meanwhile, in america, people are still needlessly and/or accidently killed by gunfire every day.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    I always feel warm and fuzzy when we have another gun thread because as we all know, happiness is a warm gun, bang bang, shoot shoot.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Mother Superior, jump the gun.

    I totally support what this woman did, and not sure this would fall under the yet-another-gun-thread scenario.

    Sometimes that self-protection actually works; acknowledging it takes nothing away from the fuckwads who have no idea of the responsibility they must possess with those arms.

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