FLAC Pricing

evdjj3j
evdjj3j Old Mountains Posts: 114
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Why are FLAC bootlegs more expensive? They are a complete ripoff and Pearl Jam should be ashamed.
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  • -.- Glorified GnothingMan -.-
    -.- Glorified GnothingMan -.- Posts: 434
    They are of less compression (lossless) and therefore higher quality than mp3. Thought everyone knew that. All bands who sell downloads price them about the same
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  • -.- Glorified GnothingMan -.-
    -.- Glorified GnothingMan -.- Posts: 434
    -.- Glorified GnothingMan -.- said:

    They are of less compression (lossless) and therefore higher quality than mp3. Thought everyone knew that. All bands who sell downloads price them about the same


    Edit: The only "Shame" involved is when people buy the lame mps's and then trade them as lossless (which they are NOT) to other people
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  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,892
    Yes bands do charge more for FLAC but I don't think it costs any more money for the band to rip their music to flac instead of mp3. It might cost a few extra cents for 1gb of bandwidth opposed to 100mb, but that's it. They both encoded from the same master and encoding is running the program with different settings...

    I can live with them charging the extra 5 bux, but I wish the free 10c Analog code would work for FLAC. Were Analog members, we like better audio quality. Why would give an mp3 only code to people who pay extra just for the annual single on vinyl. :)
  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,459
    Zod said:

    Yes bands do charge more for FLAC but I don't think it costs any more money for the band to rip their music to flac instead of mp3. It might cost a few extra cents for 1gb of bandwidth opposed to 100mb, but that's it. They both encoded from the same master and encoding is running the program with different settings...

    I can live with them charging the extra 5 bux, but I wish the free 10c Analog code would work for FLAC. Were Analog members, we like better audio quality. Why would give an mp3 only code to people who pay extra just for the annual single on vinyl. :)

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  • evdjj3j
    evdjj3j Old Mountains Posts: 114
    -.- Glorified GnothingMan -.- said:

    They are of less compression (lossless) and therefore higher quality than mp3. Thought everyone knew that. All bands who sell downloads price them about the same

    I know what FLAC files are, I just think they are milking fans by charging more for them. The PJ marketing machine is a capitalists wet dream.

  • -.- Glorified GnothingMan -.-
    -.- Glorified GnothingMan -.- Posts: 434
    In theory, our country, the U.S., is a capitalist's wet dream. Pearl Jam isn't doing anything I haven't seen down by countless other bands i.e. Phish, Umphrey's McGee, Peter Gabriel, Black Crowes, etc...

    They charge more for flac, IMO, because they are more valuable than the mp3 files. At least they are to me (I want my DOG to hear every frequency, even if I can't perceive them all!) Just like blu-ray discs cost more than regular dvds. Zod is probably correct about production costs being pretty much equal. I'm sorry you feel you are getting milked by paying more for the flacs. I'd be pissed too if I felt the same. You might even be right. I just assume everyone charged more for flacs because that is what I've experienced but I have never really asked myself "Why?" I do know that I have stored flacs on cd-rs from years ago which allows me the ability to burn a fresh new copy for listening at any time
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    Peter Gabriel - Up 200 gram 'Classic Records' audiophile version. Sealed. $225
    ^discogs entry link^
    Van Halen - I 180 gram Remastered 'DCC Compact Classic' version. Ltd. Ed. (#53!). Sealed. $175
    ^discogs entry link^
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  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    Zod said:

    ...I can live with them charging the extra 5 bux, but I wish the free 10c Analog code would work for FLAC.

    It'll work for FLAC. It just gives you a $9.99 discount, so you end up paying $5.
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  • TA243471
    TA243471 The Great Northwest Posts: 1,251
    HesCalledDyer said:

    Zod said:

    ...I can live with them charging the extra 5 bux, but I wish the free 10c Analog code would work for FLAC.

    It'll work for FLAC. It just gives you a $9.99 discount, so you end up paying $5.
    :-bd
    Most people know this. He wants the same price for all digital content. Since it is digital and all. Costs the same to make, and the same to store.

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  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,255
    It is better so they are charging more. May be just that simple.
  • evdjj3j
    evdjj3j Old Mountains Posts: 114
    I generally don't buy digital music files, but the only other one I have bought FLAC was the same price. Also what happened to the raw 64k bootlegs being available the day after the show? The show I saw in 2003 the files were available the next day and had more content than the final bootleg. The hard drive they were on failed so they are gone now, I would love to have those back. That's when I learned the hard way to back up my data, been backing up ever since.
  • darthvedder
    darthvedder Posts: 2,667
    It's the CDR option that's the true ripoff. They charge 17 bucks for something that costs less than 5 bucks to produce. It's easy to tell because they only charge an extra dollar for a third disc.
  • rtwilli4
    rtwilli4 Posts: 261
    SUPPLY AND DEMAND!
  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,459
    The HD Flac are pretty amazing. Great headphones & proper playback system & get ready to be blown away. Dare I say better than vinyl?! :bz
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  • RoleModelsinBlood31
    RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,239
    Anyone have any show thats a downloadable ALAC? I'd love to get it from you, hook a brother up. I need to make sure it's worthwhile before I buy the shows I was at in ALAC, but I have no experience.... Please!
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  • Popmartijn
    Popmartijn Posts: 382
    RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

    Anyone have any show thats a downloadable ALAC? I'd love to get it from you, hook a brother up. I need to make sure it's worthwhile before I buy the shows I was at in ALAC, but I have no experience.... Please!

    You can easily convert FLAC to ALAC without any degradation in sound.
    As for downloading shows in FLAC/ALAC for free, Google is your friend. :)

  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,459
    Toast Titanium is also your friend when you need to burn those Flac HD shows to a playable DVD-A disc!
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  • Veddernarian
    Veddernarian Posts: 1,924
    AFLAC sounds like a duck

    I agree FLAC should cost more as the files are larger and they cost more to create and maintain. It is a higher value to people who care. If you don't care about the better sound, MP3 will be good enough for you and you won't have to pay as much. I'm glad 9.99 of the cost is covered by the analog membership code.
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  • moldar
    moldar Posts: 8
    evdjj3j said:

    -.- Glorified GnothingMan -.- said:

    They are of less compression (lossless) and therefore higher quality than mp3. Thought everyone knew that. All bands who sell downloads price them about the same

    I know what FLAC files are, I just think they are milking fans by charging more for them. The PJ marketing machine is a capitalists wet dream.

    Newsflash. The band is a business. I know it is shocking...

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