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  • cutz
    cutz Posts: 12,236
    Newch91 wrote:
    cutz wrote:
    Did i just see on ESPN's bottom-line, that Tulsa is gonna join the NEW Big East? Man, i HOPE NOT!!

    Oh yea................... it's nice that one REAL Big East team made the Final-4. Way to go 'Cuse.
    It's not the Big East anymore. I don't know what they're going to call the new conference that isn't catholic schools.


    From what i heard on TV, they are still calling it The Big East. I think they payed the other schools to keep the rights to the name. I also think ther playing ther conference Tourney at MSG?
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    villanova vs georgetown tonight.

    so far so good for this new big east, i think. couple really good teams. a few disappointments. should have about 4 teams in the tourney. scoring is way up. not a bad start.



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  • pjhawks
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    villanova vs georgetown tonight.

    so far so good for this new big east, i think. couple really good teams. a few disappointments. should have about 4 teams in the tourney. scoring is way up. not a bad start.



    Nova and Creighton and really good, the rest is fairly pedestrian. This league absolutely needs St. John's to make a huge leap in the next few years. Brad Stevens leaving was a disaster for the league.

    oh overall the A10 might be better this year and will be interesting to see which league ends up with more team in the tourney. Both will get at least 4 I think but 1 or both could get a 5th.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    pjhawks said:

    villanova vs georgetown tonight.

    so far so good for this new big east, i think. couple really good teams. a few disappointments. should have about 4 teams in the tourney. scoring is way up. not a bad start.



    Nova and Creighton and really good, the rest is fairly pedestrian. This league absolutely needs St. John's to make a huge leap in the next few years. Brad Stevens leaving was a disaster for the league.

    oh overall the A10 might be better this year and will be interesting to see which league ends up with more team in the tourney. Both will get at least 4 I think but 1 or both could get a 5th.
    well nova's a top 10 team. xavier and providence are pretty good. gtown's missing 2 of their best players. marquette and st johns are disappointing. i don't think butler has the talent right now, even if stevens was there.

    going in, we figured around 4 teams would be dancing. that's not bad for the new league, especially considering there's only 10 teams right now.
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  • pjhawks
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    pjhawks said:

    villanova vs georgetown tonight.

    so far so good for this new big east, i think. couple really good teams. a few disappointments. should have about 4 teams in the tourney. scoring is way up. not a bad start.



    Nova and Creighton and really good, the rest is fairly pedestrian. This league absolutely needs St. John's to make a huge leap in the next few years. Brad Stevens leaving was a disaster for the league.

    oh overall the A10 might be better this year and will be interesting to see which league ends up with more team in the tourney. Both will get at least 4 I think but 1 or both could get a 5th.
    well nova's a top 10 team. xavier and providence are pretty good. gtown's missing 2 of their best players. marquette and st johns are disappointing. i don't think butler has the talent right now, even if stevens was there.

    going in, we figured around 4 teams would be dancing. that's not bad for the new league, especially considering there's only 10 teams right now.
    I think Nova and Creighton are probably better than anyone in the A10 although I think St. Louis is close. they are a bit underrated right now. Umass is ranked like 13th but I think they are actually overrated.

    RPI Numbers:
    By Conference Big East is currently 4th and A10 is currently 6th in the country.

    By Teams: Big East
    Nova - 4
    Creighton - 11
    Xavier - 37
    Providence - 42
    Georgetown - 72
    St. John's - 76
    Marquette - 86

    4 out 10 in Top 50, 7 out of 10 in Top 100

    Atlantic 10:
    Umass - 8
    St. Louis - 25
    George Washington - 31
    VCU - 32
    Richmond - 47
    Dayton - 64
    St. Joseph's - 69
    St. Bonaventure - 80
    La Salle - 82

    5 out of 13 in Top 50, 9 out of 13 in Top 100
  • The Juggler
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    edited January 2014
    Yeah when the Big East expands in a few years, definitely gotta poach St Louis and VCU. 10 teams is nice and cozy but they will need to add a couple better schools. But to have a team in the top 10 and 40% in top 50 rpi, that's not a bad start. as long as they're fairing better than the american conference, i'm relatively happy. haha


    http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology/conference
    Non-Conference Overall
    Rank Conference W L Pct RPI Rank RPI
    1 Big 12 Conference 98 26 0.7903 0.5875 1 0.5982
    2 Big Ten Conference 120 31 0.7947 0.5823 2 0.5946
    3 Pacific 12 Conference 115 32 0.7823 0.5675 4 0.5812
    4 Big East Conference 92 31 0.7480 0.5709 3 0.5805
    5 Atlantic Coast Conference 136 53 0.7196 0.5619 5 0.5738
    6 Atlantic 10 Conference 123 54 0.7000 0.5531 6 0.5620
    7 Southeastern Conference 123 52 0.7029 0.5486 7 0.5601
    8 American Athletic Conference 87 34 0.7190 0.5379 8 0.5521
    9 West Coast Conference 71 40 0.6396 0.5306 9 0.5404
    10 Mountain West Conference 76 46 0.6230 0.5298 10 0.5350


    This game is a little too close for comfort right now...
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  • cutz
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    edited January 2014
    I'm not sure i want more teams added. I like that they play each other twice(home & away).

    They are playing each other twice?
  • The Juggler
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    cutz said:

    I'm not sure i want more teams added. I like that they play each other twice(home & away).

    They are playing each other twice?

    yeah i like that you play teams twice. can't wait till nova gets creighton again. but i think 12 would be the perfect number, if the next couple teams are good basketball schools. you'd still get to play most teams twice, and you improve the overall quality of the league. this way, when you get a couple disappointing teams, you don't have to sweat still getting 4-5 bids....


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  • Indifference71
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    cutz said:

    I'm not sure i want more teams added. I like that they play each other twice(home & away).

    They are playing each other twice?

    yeah i like that you play teams twice. can't wait till nova gets creighton again. but i think 12 would be the perfect number, if the next couple teams are good basketball schools. you'd still get to play most teams twice, and you improve the overall quality of the league. this way, when you get a couple disappointing teams, you don't have to sweat still getting 4-5 bids....




    Even though I'm a DePaul alum (we are fucking awful once again...no clue how Purnell still has a job), I am enjoying the new league. It was the right move for all of these non-football schools to form their own league.

    Is it official that they are adding 2 more teams next year? Wasn't it supposed to be Dayton and St. Louis?
  • The Juggler
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    No nothing is official. Just speculation for what might happen a few years down the road.
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  • cutz
    cutz Posts: 12,236

    cutz said:

    I'm not sure i want more teams added. I like that they play each other twice(home & away).

    They are playing each other twice?

    yeah i like that you play teams twice. can't wait till nova gets creighton again. but i think 12 would be the perfect number, if the next couple teams are good basketball schools. you'd still get to play most teams twice, and you improve the overall quality of the league. this way, when you get a couple disappointing teams, you don't have to sweat still getting 4-5 bids....


    Do you think they would play 22 league games?
  • The Juggler
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    cutz said:

    cutz said:

    I'm not sure i want more teams added. I like that they play each other twice(home & away).

    They are playing each other twice?

    yeah i like that you play teams twice. can't wait till nova gets creighton again. but i think 12 would be the perfect number, if the next couple teams are good basketball schools. you'd still get to play most teams twice, and you improve the overall quality of the league. this way, when you get a couple disappointing teams, you don't have to sweat still getting 4-5 bids....


    Do you think they would play 22 league games?
    i guess they could. or they can play the same amount they play now while only playing one team once....what do you think?
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  • cutz
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    Yea, i thought of that too(^^^^^^^^).

    MAYBE they could have 2 divisions of 6 teams each? Play your division twice and the other once?
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  • Newch91
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    That "30 for 30" was a joke. They should have called it what it was: a doc about the Syracuse-Georgetown rivalry. Did ESPN and the filmmaker forget UConn was even part of the Big East and carried that conference during the '90s and 2000s and winning 3 national championships? For some reason, Syracuse's national title was the high point of the Big East, instead of, say, UConn's three titles in twelve years. Wasted two hours of my time watching that.

    Oh yeah, college football sucks.
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  • Empty Glass
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    Newch91 said:

    That "30 for 30" was a joke. They should have called it what it was: a doc about the Syracuse-Georgetown rivalry. Did ESPN and the filmmaker forget UConn was even part of the Big East and carried that conference during the '90s and 2000s and winning 3 national championships? For some reason, Syracuse's national title was the high point of the Big East, instead of, say, UConn's three titles in twelve years. Wasted two hours of my time watching that.

    Oh yeah, college football sucks.

    I enjoyed it because that was what I watched as a kid. I quit watching hoops, all levels, around the early 90's. But you bring up a good point. The special was like PJ20. Here's our first 5 years, high points of the next 5 and here's the end. It's up to the viewer to fill in the middle image
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  • pjhawks
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    Newch91 said:

    That "30 for 30" was a joke. They should have called it what it was: a doc about the Syracuse-Georgetown rivalry. Did ESPN and the filmmaker forget UConn was even part of the Big East and carried that conference during the '90s and 2000s and winning 3 national championships? For some reason, Syracuse's national title was the high point of the Big East, instead of, say, UConn's three titles in twelve years. Wasted two hours of my time watching that.

    Oh yeah, college football sucks.

    well definitely understand your point but I think the basis of the story was the beginning of the Big East and basically the 1980s in general. it was kind of cool to see some of the highlights of some of the old games. remember watching Pearl hit the half court shot and running right off the court and walter berry's block on pearl in the big east championship game. Mike Gorman was cool too. forgot about that guy.

    interesting to think what would have happened if they voted Penn State in before taking Pittsburgh.

    and yes fuck college football.
  • The Juggler
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    I fell asleep halfway through....was it only about the 80's? I feel like I didn't see a lot of Nova stuff in there either, though I think I dozes off before they got to 85
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  • pjhawks
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    I fell asleep halfway through....was it only about the 80's? I feel like I didn't see a lot of Nova stuff in there either, though I think I dozes off before they got to 85

    mostly on the 80s that I saw. I turned away from it for a bit at 10:00 then went back to it to watch the end. didn't really see a whole lot on Nova either. as mentioned above it was mostly Georgetown Vs. Syracuse with a little St. John's sprinkled in before moving to the present and talking about the football expansions.
  • Newch91
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    pjhawks said:

    I fell asleep halfway through....was it only about the 80's? I feel like I didn't see a lot of Nova stuff in there either, though I think I dozes off before they got to 85

    mostly on the 80s that I saw. I turned away from it for a bit at 10:00 then went back to it to watch the end. didn't really see a whole lot on Nova either. as mentioned above it was mostly Georgetown Vs. Syracuse with a little St. John's sprinkled in before moving to the present and talking about the football expansions.
    Yeah, Juggler, you didn't miss much. They only threw in a little Villanova and St. John's just so it wouldn't blatantly look like a doc about Syracuse vs. Georgetown.
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