or does Matt Cameron play some of the songs too fast? I have a ton of the bootlegs and just started listening to the new Philly ones...this is not the first time I've noticed tempo issues. You can hear Matt counting off the songs, and I think he might be better off using a click. In my opinion it ruins some of the songs especially for Mike's leads or Ed's vocals. Mind Your Manners is one I really noticed it on.
Saying he should use a click suggests that Matt is screwing up, which he's not. The guy's a total pro. They're playing the songs at the tempo that they want to play them, however that's decided on. Listen to some of the same songs over a long time span. They're played at the exact tempo.
I disagree that they play the songs at the exact same tempo. If you match up songs from different dates or different tours in an audio program like Pro Tools (or a free one like Audicity), the tempos fluctuate.
I wasn't saying Matt is screwing up, just saying some songs sound better faster than the studio versions, but some are too fast. If you're gonna play 30+ songs (as we all want them too), it might be easier on him to remember tempos if he starts them with a click.
Any songs I've compared have the nearly exact tempo. Even 10 years apart. Have a whack at it and post some links, though. I'm willing to look at more info.
Saying he should use a click suggests that Matt is screwing up, which he's not. The guy's a total pro. They're playing the songs at the tempo that they want to play them, however that's decided on. Listen to some of the same songs over a long time span. They're played at the exact tempo.
I disagree that they play the songs at the exact same tempo. If you match up songs from different dates or different tours in an audio program like Pro Tools (or a free one like Audicity), the tempos fluctuate.
I wasn't saying Matt is screwing up, just saying some songs sound better faster than the studio versions, but some are too fast. If you're gonna play 30+ songs (as we all want them too), it might be easier on him to remember tempos if he starts them with a click.
Any songs I've compared have the nearly exact tempo. Even 10 years apart. Have a whack at it and post some links, though. I'm willing to look at more info.
It depends on the song and the day. I've heard them play many songs at varying tempos. I look at this as a positive, not a negative!
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go listen to nickelback if you want to listen to an uninspired, louder version of the record live, and let your 10c membership expire. better seats for me that way.
everything matt cameron plays on swings more than any other drummer pearl jam has had.
songs take on a life of their own live. a good drummer lets them breathe.
a click track sucks the life out of live music unless the drummer sucks. or they have a bunch of prerecorded stuff they need to keep in time with.
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go listen to nickelback if you want to listen to an uninspired, louder version of the record live, and let your 10c membership expire. better seats for me that way.
everything matt cameron plays on swings more than any other drummer pearl jam has had.
songs take on a life of their own live. a good drummer lets them breathe.
a click track sucks the life out of live music unless the drummer sucks. or they have a bunch of prerecorded stuff they need to keep in time with.
speeding up songs live is ROCK AND FUCKING ROLL.
You're really after getting these better seats when people let their membership expire today, aren't you?
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go listen to nickelback if you want to listen to an uninspired, louder version of the record live, and let your 10c membership expire. better seats for me that way.
everything matt cameron plays on swings more than any other drummer pearl jam has had.
songs take on a life of their own live. a good drummer lets them breathe.
a click track sucks the life out of live music unless the drummer sucks. or they have a bunch of prerecorded stuff they need to keep in time with.
speeding up songs live is ROCK AND FUCKING ROLL.
You're really after getting these better seats when people let their membership expire today, aren't you?
I guess he missed the memo that seniority means nothing anymore.
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Any songs I've compared have the nearly exact tempo. Even 10 years apart. Have a whack at it and post some links, though. I'm willing to look at more info.
go listen to nickelback if you want to listen to an uninspired, louder version of the record live, and let your 10c membership expire. better seats for me that way.
everything matt cameron plays on swings more than any other drummer pearl jam has had.
songs take on a life of their own live. a good drummer lets them breathe.
a click track sucks the life out of live music unless the drummer sucks. or they have a bunch of prerecorded stuff they need to keep in time with.
speeding up songs live is ROCK AND FUCKING ROLL.
I think it's all Stone's fault. :?
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I guess he missed the memo that seniority means nothing anymore.