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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
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  • EdsonNascimento
    EdsonNascimento Posts: 5,531
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Sooo, Arod getting off would be best case scenario at this point, huh?

    Before not having him would free up salary for other people. Now I feel like they need his bat, whatever that is.

    Always was. The more I look at this, though is they knew the Cano think was happening and that resulted in the Ellsbury signing. It's not an exact trade off obviously, but I'm guessing while they wouldn't have minded Cano coming back at that point, they signed the Ellsbury contract assuming he wasn't.

    As for A-Rod - Always helps to have another bat.
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    Cameron, who is a Mariners fan.

    http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/mariners ... fies-odds/
  • FenwayFaithful
    FenwayFaithful Posts: 8,626
    How's everyone doing over here?
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    EdsonNascimento wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Sooo, Arod getting off would be best case scenario at this point, huh?

    Before not having him would free up salary for other people. Now I feel like they need his bat, whatever that is.

    Always was. The more I look at this, though is they knew the Cano think was happening and that resulted in the Ellsbury signing. It's not an exact trade off obviously, but I'm guessing while they wouldn't have minded Cano coming back at that point, they signed the Ellsbury contract assuming he wasn't.

    As for A-Rod - Always helps to have another bat.

    Yeah, I'd think they had a pretty good idea this was going to happen.
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    FenwayFaithful wrote:
    How's everyone doing over here?

    :lol:

    This is what it takes to bring you out of the woodwork?

    Not thrilled, to say the least. Screw the Mariners.
  • FenwayFaithful
    FenwayFaithful Posts: 8,626
    Yeah, I've been outta the game for a while. Complete coincidence Cliffy, I swear.
    "FF, I've heard the droning about the Sawx being the baby dolls. Yeah, I get it, you guys invented baseball and suffered forever. I get it." -JearlPam0925
  • FenwayFaithful
    FenwayFaithful Posts: 8,626
    Hey cheer up, you got a new 30 year old CF for only $150 million!
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    FenwayFaithful wrote:
    Yeah, I've been outta the game for a while. Complete coincidence Cliffy, I swear.

    Yeah, yeah. Hope things are going well. In your hood almost weekly these days. Well, Weston at least. Logan is like my second home.
  • EdsonNascimento
    EdsonNascimento Posts: 5,531
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Cameron, who is a Mariners fan.

    http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/mariners ... fies-odds/

    Great article. And if Cano is of any value he will not be a Marnier past year 4 because of all the reasons he stated about the current state of the team.
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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,636
    Bronx Bombers wrote:
    igotid88 wrote:
    EdsonNascimento wrote:

    Forget the avg. salary. Totally meaningless. It's about the total contract. $200 million and 10 years have never worked in a single contract. Yankess smart not to go there.

    How does Felix Hernandez fell about his hometown discount now?

    A-Rod's first 10 year $250 million contract worked

    Not really he opted out after 7 only one that you could say actually worked was DJ 10/189


    In terms of production, yes. And the opt out could have benefited them of they didn't re-sign
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  • EdsonNascimento
    EdsonNascimento Posts: 5,531
    igotid88 wrote:
    Bronx Bombers wrote:
    igotid88 wrote:
    A-Rod's first 10 year $250 million contract worked

    Not really he opted out after 7 only one that you could say actually worked was DJ 10/189


    In terms of production, yes. And the opt out could have benefited them of they didn't re-sign

    But, would even the first 7 years have worked out if he didn't use steroids?

    I think in this post-roids era 10 year deals are a utter and complete disaster unless you are on the brink of winning a championship in the next 2 years.
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    This is what I am going to try and tell myself

    http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/moving-o ... nson-cano/
  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,636
    EdsonNascimento wrote:

    But, would even the first 7 years have worked out if he didn't use steroids?

    I think in this post-roids era 10 year deals are a utter and complete disaster unless you are on the brink of winning a championship in the next 2 years.


    Assuming he used all those years other than the 3. Even without them i believe he would have put up similar numbers. Well close to them.
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  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,277
    :shock: :shock: :shock:

    I can't fathom this deal. altho a good player, cano has absolutely no power to put asses in the seats.
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • cutz
    cutz Posts: 12,236
    Beltran 3/$45M>Not much of a surprise. You knew the Yanks would sign him, Choo or Cruz. But, would they sign one of the others too?

    How about a pitcher? or 2?
  • EdsonNascimento
    EdsonNascimento Posts: 5,531
    cutz wrote:
    Beltran 3/$45M>Not much of a surprise. You knew the Yanks would sign him, Choo or Cruz. But, would they sign one of the others too?

    How about a pitcher? or 2?

    So, Ellsbury, McCann, Beltran and Kuroda for $299 million or Cano for $240 mill and 3+ more years commitmment?

    Props to Cashman. Lessons learned. Job well done. Will miss Cano, but Yankees are clearly better off in any way you look at this.
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  • Bronx Bombers
    Bronx Bombers Posts: 2,208
    cutz wrote:
    Beltran 3/$45M>Not much of a surprise. You knew the Yanks would sign him, Choo or Cruz. But, would they sign one of the others too?

    How about a pitcher? or 2?

    Sweet as for the pitching we just resigned Kuroda guess they're waiting to see if Tanaka gets posted before going after whats out there.
  • Newch91
    Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    FenwayFaithful wrote:
    How's everyone doing over here?
    :lol::lol:
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  • Fighting Hellfish
    Fighting Hellfish Posts: 3,175
    igotid88 wrote:
    EdsonNascimento wrote:

    But, would even the first 7 years have worked out if he didn't use steroids?

    I think in this post-roids era 10 year deals are a utter and complete disaster unless you are on the brink of winning a championship in the next 2 years.


    Assuming he used all those years other than the 3. Even without them i believe he would have put up similar numbers. Well close to them.

    Not just that, but he spent 3 years In last place in Texas and they paid the Yankees 10 mill a year to take hi. Off their hands. So no way can you say that contract was a success..agree that jeter is the only 10 year deal that has ever worked. Giving a guy over 30 a ten year deal is dumb

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