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I don't think Unthought Known should be played this much

Big Bank HankBig Bank Hank Seattle, WA Posts: 8,639
edited October 2013 in The Porch
there are so many great Pearl Jam songs that rarely get played and now you want to play Unthought Known nearly every show, if you guys want to add a song to the regular rotation, pick a great song like In Hiding, I mean seriously, maybe he is playing it for his daughters because it is basically a kid's song, and they are on tour with him, and if that is the case then I give Eddie a pass if he is being a good dad and playing it for his kids, but I really don't think it is the caliber of song that should be played nearly every show
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  • boyo79boyo79 Warrington, UK Posts: 6,525
    ALOT of PJ fans love this song. I'm not one of them, never felt the love for Unthought Known. But I'm not going to complain because it is in the set alot. It's the band choice, maybe they enjoy playing the song. Maybe they know overall they get a good reaction to the song. It might not be your favourite song but that doesn't mean it should be dropped from the sets.
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  • pearljam133pearljam133 Posts: 202
    Same with Got Some, I can't believe they're still including that so much. Heard it in Pittsburgh and Buffalo.
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  • nomarnomar Posts: 66
    It's great - classic PJ build up and peaks with solid emotion. It's perfect in a concert setting. I completely disagree. Thankfully, so does Pearl Jam.
  • KB262864KB262864 Posts: 67
    I respectfully disagree. My wife and I love this song, and I would be disappointed if they did not play this. It is the best song off Backspacer and still new to us. Don't get me wrong, I love In Hiding, but I would definitely be glad that they played Unthought Known.
  • PJRock75PJRock75 Posts: 869
    nomar wrote:
    It's great - classic PJ build up and peaks with solid emotion. It's perfect in a concert setting. I completely disagree. Thankfully, so does Pearl Jam.
    Agreed...if this song doesn't move you, then I fear that you have truly missed something beautiful.
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  • Indifference71Indifference71 Chicago Posts: 14,897
    Love Unthought Known....by far my favorite song from Backspacer. Happy that this is a regular in the setlists still....it always seems to get a great reaction from the crowds
  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,721
    thank God they choose to play THAT song than others from Backspacer..

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    Gotta have me some live gems and rhinestones, don't you?
  • DeLukinDeLukin Posts: 2,757
    nomar wrote:
    It's great - classic PJ build up and peaks with solid emotion. It's perfect in a concert setting. I completely disagree. Thankfully, so does Pearl Jam.
    Perfectly said. Agree 100%. A true "modern classic."
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  • WhywhyzedWhywhyzed Posts: 270
    I like it, but I do think its in danger of getting overplayed.

    Force of Nature, on the other hand..... not enough love for this one IMO.
  • ckravitzckravitz NJ Posts: 1,668
    boyo79 wrote:
    ALOT of PJ fans love this song. I'm not one of them, never felt the love for Unthought Known. But I'm not going to complain because it is in the set alot. It's the band choice, maybe they enjoy playing the song. Maybe they know overall they get a good reaction to the song. It might not be your favourite song but that doesn't mean it should be dropped from the sets.

    Agree, particularly the part about reaction. It is becoming quite the concert anthem with how the crowd reacts and while it's not my favorite otherwise, I love the energy it creates in the room live.
  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,431
    Not a good song, and the crowd response is pretty weak. If they feel like they need to play something off the album The Fixer gets great crowd response(along with Just Breathe) and Force of Nature is 10x the song.

    If they can ditch the majority of Binaural and Riot Act, they can certainly drop all of Buttspacer.
  • Big Bank HankBig Bank Hank Seattle, WA Posts: 8,639
    Amongst The Waves>Unthought Known
  • boyo79boyo79 Warrington, UK Posts: 6,525
    Whywhyzed wrote:
    Force of Nature, on the other hand..... not enough love for this one IMO.

    Damn right. Best song on Backspacer IMO. I would love it if they started playing it again and if they do I'd love to see Mike's guitar bit towards the end of the song extended.
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  • rival.rival. Chicago Posts: 7,775
    probably their most overrated song to date, but it is fun live.
  • Save MeSave Me Posts: 147
    Unthought Known is an awesome song. Was so happy to hear it at BK2. Got some as well (BK1) is great live.
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  • YieldToNothingYieldToNothing Posts: 3,667
    Big Bank Hank wrote:
    Amongst The Waves>Unthought Known

    correct


    but unthought known works live. i don't love it, but the band seems to. even stone who is not the most emotive member of the band gets VERY into it
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  • jmug23jmug23 Posts: 778
    It cracks me up how people make statements of opinion and try to present it as fact. I constantly hear people say certain songs are "overrated" or "terrible". I happen to love this song and won't be upset if I hear it at all 3 shows I attend. It's only my opinion of course, but the broad strokes some people use around here to paint is comical. In my humble opinion of course.
  • Daron OshayDaron Oshay Middletown, NJ Posts: 2,572
    It's a great song. That's my opinion.
  • idreaminredidreaminred Posts: 314
    I love UK, so I am fine with heavy rotation
  • thefixer9thefixer9 Posts: 9,376
    Of course, I fuckin' love this song. Probably my favorite PJ song...although I don't think it's their best, but it's one of my favorites. Even though other Pearl Jam songs like In Hiding are fantatastic, I don't think they are as easy for the band to play, like Ed's vocals for example. I think Unthought gets pretty good crowd response, along with The Fixer as well. Sure...maybe the song doesn't need to be played everynight, but it's almost an anthem now, and the band seems to love playing it, and I for one would LOVE to see it on my first PJ show. What ever they decide to play that night, will be incredible either way though.
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  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,890
    Its the one song where I don't get the love for it but I appreciate that they make the crowd go crazy
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  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,431
    jmug23 wrote:
    It cracks me up how people make statements of opinion and try to present it as fact. I constantly hear people say certain songs are "overrated" or "terrible". I happen to love this song and won't be upset if I hear it at all 3 shows I attend. It's only my opinion of course, but the broad strokes some people use around here to paint is comical. In my humble opinion of course.

    But aren't opinions just the facts as one person sees them?

    No need to get all touchy about people not posting IMO every post. When I see a post like this it makes me wonder how secure some people are in their opinions.
  • Green GoblinGreen Goblin Philadelphia Posts: 20
    It's a good song that generates energy from the crowd. I like it in its current rotation.

    And if they never played it, in a couple years there would be a bunch of "PLAY UNTHOUGHT KNOWN" threads on here.
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  • Abe FromanAbe Froman Posts: 5,351
    edited October 2013
    Played 5 of 8 shows so far, so its not played every night. And if it was... so what. I wouldnt mind if they did. Love this song. I hope to get to hear it in Oklahoma City. They are playing plenty of raraties and varying the setlists a ton. I dont really care if I ever hear Betterman live again but would never complain because its a crowd favorite and many people absolutely love the song. I enjoy what they choose to play every time. Have never been disappointed with a show ive seen.
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  • Black73Black73 Posts: 1,018
    Big Bank Hank wrote:
    there are so many great Pearl Jam songs that rarely get played and now you want to play Unthought Known nearly every show, if you guys want to add a song to the regular rotation, pick a great song like In Hiding, I mean seriously, maybe he is playing it for his daughters because it is basically a kid's song, and they are on tour with him, and if that is the case then I give Eddie a pass if he is being a good dad and playing it for his kids, but I really don't think it is the caliber of song that should be played nearly every show

    They skipped Even Flow in Pittsburgh...think you were recently advocating for that "overplayed" song to get skipped once in a while. I for one like that the band plays what they want, and rarely do they listen to us rant about the one or two songs we want added/deleted from their setlist. An aside BBH, Better Man was phenomenal in The 'Burgh, too.

    Note to band: play whatever you like. I have NEVER been disappointed by one of your setlists, which has been unique each and every show I've attended. If you want to play Unthought Known, play it! Thanks for mixing it up too...since 2010 I've been at shows where the band played Rats, Oceans, Alone, Garden, Deep, Wash, No Way, Bugs and Footsteps, just to name a handful. Loved 'em all...and loved Corduroy, Alive, RVM, DTE and the other "regular rotation" songs.

    Bottom line, thanks for not recycling each show, night after night.
  • Abe FromanAbe Froman Posts: 5,351
    Black73 wrote:
    Big Bank Hank wrote:
    there are so many great Pearl Jam songs that rarely get played and now you want to play Unthought Known nearly every show, if you guys want to add a song to the regular rotation, pick a great song like In Hiding, I mean seriously, maybe he is playing it for his daughters because it is basically a kid's song, and they are on tour with him, and if that is the case then I give Eddie a pass if he is being a good dad and playing it for his kids, but I really don't think it is the caliber of song that should be played nearly every show

    They skipped Even Flow in Pittsburgh...think you were recently advocating for that "overplayed" song to get skipped once in a while. I for one like that the band plays what they want, and rarely do they listen to us rant about the one or two songs we want added/deleted from their setlist. An aside BBH, Better Man was phenomenal in The 'Burgh, too.

    Note to band: play whatever you like. I have NEVER been disappointed by one of your setlists, which has been unique each and every show I've attended. If you want to play Unthought Known, play it! Thanks for mixing it up too...since 2010 I've been at shows where the band played Rats, Oceans, Alone, Garden, Deep, Wash, No Way, Bugs and Footsteps, just to name a handful. Loved 'em all...and loved Corduroy, Alive, RVM, DTE and the other "regular rotation" songs.

    Bottom line, thanks for not recycling each show, night after night.
    Well said brother!! :clap:
  • fox_mulderXfox_mulderX Posts: 1,134
    I've never really understood the hype with Unthought Known. That 'gems and rhinestones' line just ruins it for me. Even without that line the song seems pretty standard. Amongst the Waves is a better song.

    I disagree about In Hiding, though. The song sounds pretty bad live because Eddie can't reach the "hiding" peak, anymore.
  • vant0037vant0037 Posts: 6,168
    Maybe the band just plays the songs they like to play. Novel thought.
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  • PredakingPredaking Posts: 282
    I don't dislike the song, but it's not the best off Backspacer. I admit, I sort of enjoy it live. I'd have picked any of the following BS songs ahead of it (in no specific order): The Fixer, Johnny Guitar, and Force of Nature. I'm just thankful it wasn't Just Breathe. I think hearing it both nights was a bit unncessary. Despite that, it was another great show overall.
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