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  • No_CoDeyeah
    No_CoDeyeah Posts: 162
    Fatal wrote:
    Wow...finally someone who feels the same way i do about the posters!!!!

    To each their own, but i can't believe the ridiculous prices on some of this merchandise...$40 for a lighter???? $50 for a poster???

    Think a little, for fans who are not so lucky as you to see pearl jam or eddie vedder cause the place where you're living, it's not too expensive it's half the price of a ticket and I can find a lot of people who are finding ridiculous to see the same group 10 times and more, everyone's doing what he want, I am not talking about the way to feel about poster but to find a solution about make more people happy cause they can have access to a poster sale
  • EquallyWorthless
    EquallyWorthless Posts: 3,993
    There is no guarantee that each member will get a poster OR zippo.

    Good Luck!
    SLH
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  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,164
    I like em limited, I am not a flipper and I only buy what I want to keep.

    Its nice knowing that only a few hundred (or less) exist out there-Its a big part of it.

    I had to pay auction prices for my borgata and so be it. Pretty sure the artists feel the same way.
  • No_CoDeyeah
    No_CoDeyeah Posts: 162
    did you see ? a poster sold 30 bucks at the venue become a poster sold at 40 bucks, once again, why ?
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,164
    No_CoDeyeah wrote:
    did you see ? a poster sold 30 bucks at the venue become a poster sold at 40 bucks, once again, why ?

    shameless profiteering

    who cares, its either worth it to you or its not.
  • Kilgore_Trout
    Kilgore_Trout Posts: 7,334
    perhaps its time to rehash my idea of bootleg posters... we would scan in authentic posters then reprint them with an obvious yet minor disparity (something along the border that wouldnt ruin the print itself)... obviously these couldnt be resold for legal reasons, but people could reimburse for the printing and shipping costs only... its not the same as having the real deal, but if its really just about the art i think it may be a good solution for some people

    the only startup work required is for people with large poster collections to scan them and we'll make an archive... ive got printers large enough at my school lab to reproduce any of the PJ posters

    this definitely sounds illegal... but im not sure... any thoughts?
    "Senza speme vivemo in disio"

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  • DiRtYyELLoWoCeAn
    DiRtYyELLoWoCeAn Medford, Ma Posts: 1,605
    I work in a print shop ;)
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  • wilfmiss
    wilfmiss Posts: 196
    sgossard3 wrote:

    this definitely sounds illegal... but im not sure... any thoughts?

    This sounds marginally to moderately illegal, yes.
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  • EquallyWorthless
    EquallyWorthless Posts: 3,993
    sgossard3 wrote:

    this definitely sounds illegal... but im not sure... any thoughts?


    well for starters it is blatant copyright infringement, which i believe in the good old US of A can get you more jail time then raping a small child.
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  • Kilgore_Trout
    Kilgore_Trout Posts: 7,334
    EquallyWorthless wrote:
    well for starters it is blatant copyright infringement, which i believe in the good old US of A can get you more jail time then raping a small child.
    thats why this all must stay very hush hush if it is to work :)
    "Senza speme vivemo in disio"

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  • EquallyWorthless
    EquallyWorthless Posts: 3,993
    sgossard3 wrote:
    thats why this all must stay very hush hush if it is to work :)
    lol like hush hush on the msg pit hush hush ?? lol ;)
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  • assasin
    assasin Posts: 61
    on. None of this crew seems as if they have any wits about them. Posters are a work of art and if any of you have any artist integrity you would know that the artist spends way to much creating a vision to have it abused by over saturation. The artist would rather see there work flipped a high cost because its shows you have done something that is sought after. Its not all about the fan and what we think we should get, its about the art. Whether it be music, posters or miming its expression that people attract to, not a service witch is being provided. I think a lot of PJ fans are confused at where they stand. When I read these threads I think I am listening to a bunch of 15-16 year olds that have not developed any class yet. Drink good wine don't use it as a form a slander.
  • EquallyWorthless
    EquallyWorthless Posts: 3,993
    assasin wrote:
    on. None of this crew seems as if they have any wits about them. Posters are a work of art and if any of you have any artist integrity you would know that the artist spends way to much creating a vision to have it abused by over saturation. The artist would rather see there work flipped a high cost because its shows you have done something that is sought after. Its not all about the fan and what we think we should get, its about the art. Whether it be music, posters or miming its expression that people attract to, not a service witch is being provided. I think a lot of PJ fans are confused at where they stand. When I read these threads I think I am listening to a bunch of 15-16 year olds that have not developed any class yet. Drink good wine don't use it as a form a slander.


    its called a joke.. are you daft ???
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  • No_CoDeyeah
    No_CoDeyeah Posts: 162
    assasin wrote:
    on. None of this crew seems as if they have any wits about them. Posters are a work of art and if any of you have any artist integrity you would know that the artist spends way to much creating a vision to have it abused by over saturation. The artist would rather see there work flipped a high cost because its shows you have done something that is sought after. Its not all about the fan and what we think we should get, its about the art. Whether it be music, posters or miming its expression that people attract to, not a service witch is being provided. I think a lot of PJ fans are confused at where they stand. When I read these threads I think I am listening to a bunch of 15-16 year olds that have not developed any class yet. Drink good wine don't use it as a form a slander.

    maybe you can smoke a poster and calm down a little bit, we are just talking about the way the sell of posters is manage and by extension the prices made by the tenclub, if you can't give your voice without judgment, maybe you can try to paint how you feel about this
  • JOEJOEJOE
    JOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,829
    Eliot Rosewater wrote:
    I think that's a very good idea. And yes, it would definitely decrease the value..something I'm all for.

    Who's fault is it the Kenyon Hall poster is selling for $500 on ebay? It's obviously Ed/PJ's fault. If they made more available, not only would they make more money, but they'd minimize flippers.

    It is not PJ/EV's fault that they go for $500 on Ebay...its the buyers' fault.

    People make it seem like they have no choice but to buy a poster.

    Blame the demand, not the supply.

    People would accuse the 10C of being greedy if they increased the number of posters available for sale. Damned if they do, damed if they don't.
  • Eliot Rosewater
    Eliot Rosewater Posts: 2,659
    Get_Right wrote:
    shameless profiteering

    who cares, its either worth it to you or its not.
    That's usually NOT the issue. Availability is the issue.
  • eldarion75
    eldarion75 Posts: 2,488
    I was just gonna say that..

    if BUYERS didn't go and PAY the stupid amounts of money involved there wouldn't BE a situation where posters are going for super inflated prices..
    when you buy that poster at that crazy over the top price you are PAYING FOR THE FLIPPER SCUM TO GO TO THE NEXT SHOW AND DO THE SAME!

    I've seen Pj flippers at shows with their kids, buying ten and more copies of posters just to fund whatever it is they do. It's disgusting and it really can only be remedied by 10c printing as many posters as there are fan club members(wont happen) or Pj fans having discipline and NOT PAYING OVER THE ODDS FOR THEM ON EBAY!! which COULD happen if as a fan base we had dome discipline.

    That being said, a fan club doing no-heads up ultra limited runs like the benaroya debacle and certain other poster sales is completely totally and ridiculously unfair.


    It's a lose lose situation for the real fans. 10c should just flood the market..Klausen would still be able to sell his APs to the hardcore collectors but the bands fans should always be able to get the poster for the show they were at.

    end of story.

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