SAY IT AIN'T SO EDDIE...AUTO-TUNE..REALLY GUYS???

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  • xavier mcdaniel
    xavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,440
    we belong together wrote:
    Pendulum 01:44-01:46 ish

    so about five seconds of this upsets you? I heard it too, but I moved on.
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  • ForceofNature101
    ForceofNature101 Posts: 1,295
    we belong together wrote:
    Pendulum 01:44-01:46 ish
    Artificial reverb and added delay sure but that is not autotune
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    call it what you will Trebec......
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  • ForceofNature101
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    we belong together wrote:
    call it what you will Trebec......
    Reverb and delay effects are actually not the same at all to autotune

    In this case with that part of Pendulum you singled out the effects used aren't autotune
  • we belong together
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    ForceofNature101 wrote:
    we belong together wrote:
    call it what you will Trebec......
    Reverb and delay effects are actually not the same at all to autotune

    In this case with that part of Pendulum you singled out the effects used aren't autotune

    Thank you for the technical aspects.....Many other instances of tweaking Ed's voice by unnatural means on this LP.
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  • Dr.Teeth and the Electric Mayh
    Dr.Teeth and the Electric Mayh Posts: 1,180
    No one's going dry on vocal tracks dude.
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  • Leezestarr313
    Leezestarr313 Temple of the cat Posts: 14,444
    I don't care what it's called, I love that bit in Pendulum :mrgreen:




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  • ForceofNature101
    ForceofNature101 Posts: 1,295
    we belong together wrote:
    ForceofNature101 wrote:
    we belong together wrote:
    call it what you will Trebec......

    Thank you for the technical aspects.....Many other instances of tweaking Ed's voice by unnatural means on this LP.
    FYI they used those effects on W.M.A. as well ;)


    If you want to split hairs very vocal recorded with mics and a board is technically "unnatural" considering compression and EQ is used to enhance the vocals.

    Using effects doesn't necessarily equate to a bad thing - it is an artistic decision. And in the case of the Pendulum part you pointed out I think that artistic decision works rather well because that vocal part enhances the "haunting" vibe of the tune

    Personally speaking I don't hear anything wrong with the vocals, every effect added was one made by the band to enhance the music - not to mask anything and whatnot.
  • aflyguypj
    aflyguypj Posts: 27
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    I guess you really hated Ten then since every vocal on it sounded like that. It's not auto-tune dude... you should just always listen to live music at the folk festival if you're that freaked out about some echo and voice effects.
  • SM10080
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    Dr. Delight wrote:
    we belong together wrote:
    this album is no worse than every albums after Yield, meaning there is maybe 2-3 decent songs (Pendulum,Future Days, and Sirens maybe Infallible).
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    Well said.
  • drummerboy_73
    drummerboy_73 Las Vegas, NV Posts: 2,011
    ForceofNature101 wrote:
    If you want to split hairs very vocal recorded with mics and a board is technically "unnatural" considering compression and EQ is used to enhance the vocals.

    Using effects doesn't necessarily equate to a bad thing - it is an artistic decision. And in the case of the Pendulum part you pointed out I think that artistic decision works rather well because that vocal part enhances the "haunting" vibe of the tune

    Personally speaking I don't hear anything wrong with the vocals, every effect added was one made by the band to enhance the music - not to mask anything and whatnot.

    THIS.

    Sounds primarily like some reverb and some slight delay on there - DEFINITELY NOT AUTO TUNE.
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  • SZ303389
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    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    what is auto tune?

    seriously??
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  • SomethingCreative
    SomethingCreative Kazoo, MI Posts: 3,412
    ForceofNature101 wrote:
    we belong together wrote:
    Pendulum 01:44-01:46 ish
    Artificial reverb and added delay sure but that is not autotune

    this
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    SZ303389 Posts: 453
    its because he freaking smokes...been losing his voice for years now...afraid the time has come. too bad i bought tix to three freaking shows this tour, ugh.
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  • SomethingCreative
    SomethingCreative Kazoo, MI Posts: 3,412
    SZ303389 wrote:
    its because he freaking smokes...been losing his voice for years now...afraid the time has come. too bad i bought tix to three freaking shows this tour, ugh.


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  • SZ303389
    SZ303389 Posts: 453
    we belong together wrote:
    Seen the boys ten times and EV once. Don't notice the vocal gimmicks as much live. Pearl Jam has nothing to prove to me or anyone for that matter and this album is no worse than every albums after Yield, meaning there is maybe 2-3 decent songs (Pendulum,Future Days, and Sirens maybe Infallible).

    ONE ok song you mean?
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  • SZ303389
    SZ303389 Posts: 453
    SomethingCreative wrote:
    SZ303389 wrote:
    its because he freaking smokes...been losing his voice for years now...afraid the time has come. too bad i bought tix to three freaking shows this tour, ugh.


    go home, you're drunk.

    umm, ok. you either 1) have trouble believing he smokes which i've witnessedevery show i've been to, or 2) that smoking doesn't affect your voice...either way, YOU'RE high dude. using every pop stars' crutch now, the dreaded robot.
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  • RKCNDY
    RKCNDY Posts: 31,013
    SZ303389 wrote:
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    what is auto tune?

    seriously??

    Dimi is not from the US, he truly has not heard the term.

    Dimi-auto tune is a computer used to make a singer who cannot sing the correct key properly sound like they can sing. Look for a Paris Hilton song, she uses AutoTune, most pop singers use it.

    Think of it as'fake talent'
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  • SZ303389
    SZ303389 Posts: 453
    RKCNDY wrote:
    SZ303389 wrote:
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    what is auto tune?

    seriously??

    Dimi is not from the US, he truly has not heard the term.

    Dimi-auto tune is a computer used to make a singer who cannot sing the correct key properly sound like they can sing. Look for a Paris Hilton song, she uses AutoTune, most pop singers use it.

    Think of it as'fake talent'

    I don't think you need to be from LA to know that every pop star from Fresno, CA to Albany, Australia uses auto-tune...oh and now our beloved "rockstar" Eddie Vedder.
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  • Faithful_1
    Faithful_1 Glasgow Posts: 172
    I guess the original poster hasn't spent much or anytime in a recording studio then?

    In Pendulum what you're hearing is an echo effect that has a bit of distortion added to it. It sounds awesome for it.

    Also, if you think this kind of thing is new for PJ then you simply haven't been paying attention. Vocal effects have been there since day one. I mean Ten is full of reverb on the vocal and lets not forget the treatment on the vocal at the start of Black.

    Another example of this is Do The Evolution...do you really think that's a clean vocal sound?? His voice is clearly going through a distortion processor.

    Studio trickery is perfectly acceptable, live the songs always take on life of their own anyways, so it's no big deal.

    P.S. the most processed Eddie has ever sounded was on The Fixer. On LB there's more of a dry vocal sound and there's definitely the return of his low end and growl. I really pleased with it.
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